THE VATICAN'S PLOT
TO ROB AM YISRAEL OF JERUSALEM
by Daisy J. Stern, MD
Copyright, all rights reserved.
March 22, 2009
"My rebbe once said: everyone thinks of Esav as a barbarian in loin cloth carrying a club a la caveman, a bloodthirsty monster... but really Esav was able to cleverly disguise his evil in the cloak of respectability: he was a cultured and well-mannered rogue; the perfect depiction is of a proper British lord, smooth and polite, ever the image of civility and proper etiquette, the perfect gentleman one never suspects to be a sinister, fire breathing dragon...and therefore one never sees the knife coming in to stab you in the back until it is much too late."
"In his sixteenth century treatise entitled, "The Prince," Niccolo Machiavelli wrote those words advising his prince of the "virtues" he must exercise in ruling his kingdom:
"even though on the inside he is able to scheme, he should appear to him who sees and hears him altogether merciful, faithful, humane, upright and religious."
(Michael Franzese, Newsmax)
In this paper I describe the history of the secret agreements between Israel and the Vatican, how the Vatican manipulated and deceived the Jews into entering into these negotiations, how it interfered with the political process in Israel in order to gain sovereignty over Land in Israel it considers belongs to the Church; how these secret deals went on behind the back of the Jewish People and are about to be finalized before the visit of Benedict XVI to Israel; the consequences of finalizing the agreement - internationalization of Jerusalem, abandonment of Jewish sovereignty over its Divine inheritance to the Catholic Church, and permanent establishment of the Holy German Empire with the pope at its helm in Jerusalem; as well as the consequences of refusing to sign the final papers - worldwide, raging anti-Semitism, and loss of diplomatic relations with the Vatican.
I also urge the Jewish People to force the Israeli government to REFUSE TO SIGN the papers, leave the lands of the Diaspora urgently, and come to Israel before all hell breaks loose for Jews all over the world.
Back in 2006, I wrote an essay called "THE SECRET MACHINATIONS OF THE VATICAN AND ITS ALLIES IN ISRAEL, 2006", about the Vatican and the traitors among us, and the Catholic Church's attempt to deprive the Jewish People of its rightful inheritance and historical homeland, Eretz Yisrael, - in particular the desire to snatch away our 3000 year old capital, Jerusalem. Even though I had gathered quite a bit of information for my essay then, I am afraid the total picture escaped me at the time. Now, however, after a lot more reading, investigation ,and in-depth analysis, I can with certainty share some shocking conclusions that are not obvious at first glance, and which most serious writers about this topic have apparently missed as well.
The way I arrived at these conclusions is by carefully checking the TIMELINE of various historical developments reported since 1990. The sources for these events are very disparate, and so, unless one goes and searches very carefully , the threads linking these events are not at all evident. Once one connects the dots, however, the picture that starts to emerge is quite clear, and very alarming, to say the least.
In order to really understand the total picture, make sure to read the article just mentioned, THE SECRET MACHINATIONS OF THE VATICAN AND ITS ALLIES IN ISRAEL, 2006: it will give you essential information, and a background on the players in this saga. I will not go over those details again, as time is of the essence.
The article can be found on my blog, ISRAEL TRUTH TIMES, at the link:
So let me begin, but not before thanking the unwitting contributors to this paper, who are listed in the extensive bibliography at the end of this text.
Thank you to all of you, even the ones who certainly would have preferred NOT to contribute to this article!
2. HOW IT ALL BEGAN
Since the time of the Crusades, the Vatican had entrusted the CUSTODY of the HOLY LAND to the Franciscan Order in Jerusalem. Their function, essentially, consisted of helping the local Catholic population, as well as of watching over the properties the Church considered hers.
Now of course, let us not forget HOW those properties came about to belong to the Church in the first place: after the SACKING OF JERUSALEM BY ROME, which happened by PURE FORCE , BRUTALITY, AND UNSPEAKABLE HORRORS inflicted on the JEWISH POPULATION OF ISRAEL, the likes of which history has scant comparison for, AND AFTER ROBBING THE JEWISH PEOPLE OF ALL ITS POSSESSIONS, - the depiction of which is found to this day on the ARCH OF TITUS IN ROME, - and following the subsequent desolation of Judea, Samaria and all of the Land of Israel, various rulers assumed ownership of the Land, and felt free to trade in it as though it belonged to them, which of course it did not. STOLEN PROPERTY CANNOT BE TRADED AT WILL. TITLE TO STOLEN PROPERTY SOLD BY A THIEF IS INVALID AND ILLEGAL NO MATTER HOW YOU LOOK AT IT. For example, take Madoff's investors: even though they unwittingly, innocently and unknowingly came to possess stolen goods, they nevertheless have to return the loot. So much cannot be stated of the Catholic Church, which knew perfectly well that the goods and real estate in Jerusalem , Judea, the Galilee, etc, were STOLEN PROPERTY, yet still claimed, and claims, ownership for it all even after 2000 years . ESAV WILL NOT WILLINGLY RETURN THE BLESSING OF ERETZ YISRAEL TO JACOB. REMEMBER, ROME IS ESAV - and I would venture to add, ROME HAS PROVEN BY ITS BEHAVIOR THAT IT IS AMALEK AS WELL.
In addition, let us not forget the brutality and massacres inflicted by the Crusaders on the local Jewish population.
Still, to simplify things , let's say that the Franciscans were responsible for watching over the properties claimed by the Church as its own in the Holy Land, Eretz Yisrael.
Now AFTER THE DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE OF ISRAEL IN 1948, the Church started worrying about its possessions. Specially since 1967 and the RETURN OF AM ISRAEL TO ITS SACRED INHERITANCE, in particular to HAR HABAYIT AND ALL OF JERUSALEM, the Vatican became more and more concerned: not only was JEWISH SOVEREIGNTY over Jerusalem A SLAP IN THE FACE OF CATHOLICISM, the Vatican was also worried about ownership and political sovereignty, with just reason; so it devised a very detailed, sly and elaborate plan to recoup its sovereignty over Jerusalem and the rest of Israel. Not only that, but it decided that JERUSALEM HAD TO BE INTERNATIONALIZED. In addition to that, the ancient dreams of revival of the Holy Roman Empire Of Charlemagne with its seat in Jerusalem never died, as a matter of fact, are alive as ever in this pope's mind. TO SUPPLANT JUDAISM AND MAKE THE POPE THE SUPREME RELIGIOUS AND TEMPORAL POWER OF THE RENEWED HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE IS THE GOAL. For this , I will refer you to the end of this essay, which has a lot of links, quotes, and information. Be ready for some long and good reading!
How did Rome go about doing this?
This is where deception comes in big time:
On the one hand, the Church, with its prelates, bishops, cardinals, popes, and its CANON LAW, all of a sudden became a big DEVOTEE OF INTERNATIONAL LAW AND INTERNATIONAL AGREEMENTS. Imagine for a minute a CHIEF RABBI who, instead of delving into HALACHAH, all of a sudden CLAIMS SECULAR LAW as the supreme rule of the land: wouldn't you think something is awfully fishy here? Of course, it is.
And how is that fishy in the pope's case?
Because, as the Custodian of the Holy Land claims in a recent article, THE WHOLE THING IS NOTHING BUT A SHAM, A TOOL FOR THE VATICAN TO OBTAIN, VIA INTERNATIONAL LAW, WHAT IT CANNOT OBTAIN OTHERWISE.
In addition, the Church, this ever combative and dictatorial political entity, responsible for the killing and murder of countless MILLIONS OF JEWS, PROTESTANTS, and other UNDESIRABLE persons, suddenly becomes THE VOICE OF LOVE, PEACE AND REASON:
WE LOVE EVERYBODY, EVERYBODY IS OUR FRIEND, WE HAVE NO ENEMIES, ALL WE WANT IS PEACEFUL RESOLUTION OF INTERNATIONAL CONFLICTS, USING INTERNATIONAL LAW AND U.N. RESOLUTIONS, WE SHUN FUNDAMENTALISM, WE EMBRACE ECUMENISM.
THE WHOLE THING IS A CON JOB by a very sly and deceitful entity, designed to ENSNARE UNSUSPECTING JEWS, RABBIS, AND THE ISRAELI GOVERNMENT INTO RELEASING ERETZ YISRAEL TO THE VATICAN. It is similar to the Fable de la Fontaine, Le CORBEAU ET LE RENARD:
Le Corbeau et le Renard
Maître Corbeau, sur un arbre perché,
Tenait en son bec un fromage.
Maître Renard, par l'odeur alléché,
Lui tint à peu près ce langage :
« Hé ! bonjour, Monsieur du Corbeau.
Que vous êtes joli ! que vous me semblez beau !
Sans mentir, si votre ramage
Se rapporte à votre plumage,
Vous êtes le Phénix des hôtes de ces bois. »
À ces mots le Corbeau ne se sent pas de joie :
Et pour montrer sa belle voix,
Il ouvre un large bec, laisse tomber sa proie.
Le Renard s'en saisit, et dit : « Mon bon Monsieur,
Apprenez que tout flatteur
Vit aux dépens de celui qui l'écoute.
Cette leçon vaut bien un fromage, sans doute. »
Le Corbeau honteux et confus,
Jura, mais un peu tard, qu'on ne l'y prendrait plus.
I hope you understand French.
UNFORTUNATELY THE JEWS FELL FOR the deception.
So let's see what the PLOT is all about. Once we know the PLOT OF THE FOX -("le renard") , i.e. the VATICAN, LET'S NOT ALLOW THE CHEESE, ("le fromage") , i.e. JERUSALEM, TO FALL FROM OUR COLLECTIVE BEAK.
Until the creation of the State of Israel in 1948, the Catholic Church , in 2000 years of torture, antisemitism, Inquisitions, Holocaust, pogroms, had never shown the slightest love, concern for, or interest in the Jewish People. On the contrary, according to Catholic theology and doctrine, Jews were singled out for eternal damnation and exile from their Land for the crime of "DEICIDE" , killing "god", and deserved the eternal opprobrium and punishment meted out by the "faithful".
But now, with Church properties in Jewish hands, and the Jews back in at least part of the Holy Land, the Church had to tread carefully: on one hand the theological contradiction was insufferable , on the other hand properties once in Catholic hands were all of a sudden at the mercy of the Jews. So the Church "FOUND RELIGION". In 1965, pope Paul VI drafted the revolutionary Vatican document NOSTRA AETATE,
which speaks for itself. Please read it. In short, it advocates tolerance for other religions, in particular other Christian branches, Judaism and Islam. It also recommends DIALOGUE with other religions and understanding, in short, ecumenism, and the rejection of antisemitism as well as the accusation of deicide. You have to understand that this is an absolute tsunami , considering the traditional "DOCTRINE OF THE FAITH" ( which the current pope Benedict XVI, as past CHIEF INQUISITOR, secretly supports despite his denials to the contrary - proof later)
There might have been a true element of remorse among some clergy after the Holocaust, we have to give them credit; still, this new approach has to be seen in the context of subsequent developments. After the Six Day War of 1967 and the unexpected victory of Israel over its enemies, Vatican worry obviously increased dramatically. Already in 1970, a commission was formed in the Vatican, and a special department created in 1974, with the express goal of reaching out to DIASPORA Jews, cynically playing on Jewish feelings of trauma and devastation from the Holocaust, and offering Jews rejection of anti-semitism, a chance for DIALOGUE through the institution of the INTERNATIONAL CATHOLIC JEWISH LIAISON COMMITTEE -ILC, and POSSIBLE RECOGNITION OF THE STATE OF ISRAEL, apparently "for free" at the beginning: THE CHURCH ACTED AS THOUGH IT HAD DONE TESHUVAH, CHANGED ITS SPOTS, AND SUDDENLY BECOME SAINTLY, WHEN IN FACT THOSE ILC MEETINGS WERE ALL PART OF A CALCULATED MACHIAVELLIAN PLOT.
More and more meetings took place, and the INTRIGUE PROGRESSED in earnest from 1990 on: that is when the plot thickens.
Please read the links provided at the end of the article: you will see that this whole DIALOGUE AND PEACE CHARADE was STRICTLY A CATHOLIC INITIATIVE, the Jews being wooed, wined, and dined, and naïvely believing the claims of the Church delegates in this "interfaith dialogue", except for a few "Jews" such as Edgar Bronfman of the World Jewish Congress, who acted as go-between, meeting the Catholics in the context of DIASPORA/VATICAN RELATIONS, while at the same time interfering in the ISRAELI political process.
EDGAR BRONFMAN is in a league with Yossi Beilin and Shimon Peres: THEY ALL ACTED AS AGENTS FOR THE VATICAN WHILE APPEARING TO WORK FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE JEWS!!!
It is very interesting to watch the progression of the topics discussed during the various meetings taking place : starting with "TESHUVAH" for the Church's role in the Holocaust and before; while discussing easy topics such as common family values; then, AFTER 15 whole years of GAINING JEWISH CONFIDENCE, first approaching the subject of LAND and Church properties in Israel!
In order to fulfill these goals, the Church also actively worked in the international sphere, becoming active in PEACE INITIATIVES, such as the Madrid Conference in 1991 - see the letters the pope wrote to Bush and Gorbachev, the "apparent" organizers of the conference. It is noteworthy that the Vatican, despite claiming to NOT interfere with territorial and political issues, in fact CONSTANTLY INTERFERES and intervenes, through intrigue, letters, pressure on political leaders, etc.
At the same time, in the SUMMER OF 1991 , even BEFORE THE LABOR PARTY WAS IN POWER, and before the Madrid Conference, the Church ALREADY APPROACHED YOSSI BEILIN, via the MESHUMAD ISRAELI FR. DAVID YAEGER, to start negotiations about Jerusalem; according to Yossi Beilin himself, the only thing that REALLY INTERESTED the Church was PROPERTIES, LAND, THINGS, while ISRAEL WANTED RECOGNITION - and while the DIASPORA JEWS WANTED FREEDOM FROM PERSECUTION.
HONESTLY, the Church behaved like a woman MARRYING FOR MONEY!
At any rate, by the time election time came in Israel, the VATICAN ALREADY HAD A WORKING RELATIONSHIP WITH YOSSI BEILIN. Now do you understand the deception involved? Most deceptively, a ILC CONFERENCE TOOK PLACE IN BALTIMORE IN 1992, in which the head of the Jewish delegation, "happened " to be EDGAR BRONFMAN (CFR member) , who simultaneously 'happened" to INTERFERE IN THE ISRAELI ELECTIONS, BY ARRANGING MEETINGS BETWEEN YOSSI BEILIN AND ARAFAT'S MEN , TO PROMISE THE PLO SOME SORT OF A STATE IN "Palestine" in EXCHANGE FOR THE ARAB VOTE FOR THE LABOR PARTY IN ISRAEL! In effect, BRONFMAN, AS AGENT OF THE VATICAN, and acting as a go-between, ACTIVELY INTERFERED IN THE ISRAELI ELECTION PROCESS AND HELPED ELECT YITSHAK RABIN AND SHIMON PERES! And the whole purpose of this choice was so that the transfer of Jerusalem and other properties to the Church could proceed!
At the same time, cruelly playing on Jewish suffering, and in the context of "TESHUVAH' for the expulsion from Spain 500 years earlier, at that Baltimore conference with the DIASPORA JEWS, the Vatican became more demanding , and for the first time broached the subject of Catholic properties in Israel.
So we see that the Vatican intefered with the Israeli elections, and then USED THE DIASPORA JEWS TO INFLUENCE ISRAEL; also USED THE CONCERNS OF THE DIASPORA JEWS -ANTISEMITISM , AND THE CONCERN OF THE ISRAELI GOVERNMENT - RECOGNITION OF ISRAEL, AS BARGAINING CHIPS FOR THE LAND OF ISRAEL!
Right after putting Peres and Beilin in office, the Church got their cooperation to start the TRANSFER OF CHURCH PROPERTIES TO THE VATICAN. It seems that Rabin just 'happened' to be part of the whole deal; an EXPENDABLE ITEM, an obstacle, for all practical purposes.
That would certainly explain his murder in 1995, for all of those who DON"T BELIEVE the official version of his assassination, and DO BELIEVE THAT PERES WAS BEHIND IT. Peres, in other words, ROME.
Within one month of the election of Rabin and Peres in June 1992, in July, the Vatican already started ACTIVE NEGOTIATIONS ABOUT CHURCH PROPERTIES -ILLEGAL,, SECRET AND ILLEGITIMATE,- with Yossi Beilin. Now don't forget that Yossi Beilin was Deputy Foreign Minister, and Shimon Peres was the Foreign Minister, so obviously Peres was in on the deal.
It is important to mention that these talks were DONE IN SECRET, AND NOT APPROVED BY THE KNESSET, yet left FOOTPRINTS in the form of DOCUMENTS DRAFTED, albeit with deception, I would even say under duress, and illegally.
What WAS NOT SUPPOSED TO LEAVE a footprint were the PARALLEL TALKS OF SHIMON PERES GOING ON DIRECTLY WITH THE POPE, about Church properties. Those talks took place at the Vatican between Peres and the pope, or in the form of SECRET hand-delivered LETTERS written BY PERES, or later in 2006, in a letter from OLMERT HAND -DELIVERED BY PERES DIRECTLY TO THE POPE.
These SECRET CHANNELS that Peres handled are UNACCOUNTED FOR. THEY ARE THE MOST DAMAGING AND ILLEGAL, AND OF COURSE INVALID ONES. In them, according to reliable documents ( see links), Peres promised to the pope the INTERNATIONALIZATION OF JERUSALEM, which is what the "Holy See" ( not holy at all, actually, very criminal and UNHOLY SEE) demands.
As an example; when Shimon Peres went to the Vatican in April 2006, barely a week after Olmert's "election", and while carrying a secret letter to the pope, which was NEVER SHOWN TO THE MEDIA, he had an audience of 40 minutes with the pope, an extraordinary long meeting by pope standards.
While PERES CLAIMED that the meeting showed the interest of the pope in Israel, in fact, MOST OF THE MEETING CONSISTED OF NEGOTIATIONS ABOUT THE CHURCH PROPERTIES IN ISRAEL. This is a typical example of DISHONESTY and DECEIT on the part of the KADIMA GANG.
Another OUTRAGEOUS EXAMPLE of Kadima deception is the fact during the "official" channel WORKING GROUP between the Foreign Office of the State of Israel and the Vatican since 2006, the ISRAELI representative FOR THE RELIGIOUS MINISTRY IS AN ARAB, BAHIJ MANSOUR. Of course the non-Jew will be willing to give away JEWISH PATRIMONY TO THE CHURCH!
4. PROGRESS OF THE NEGOTIATIONS
Very remarkable is the fact that negotiations since December 20, 1993, the date the FUNDAMENTAL AGREEMENT between Israel and the Vatican was signed, were stalled significantly , despite the signing of the LEGAL PERSONALITY AGREEMENT in 1997. For the agreements themselves and definitions, see the links at the end of the article.
Of importance is the fact that a number of very significant issues were left untouched, for obvious reasons: none of the items signed away by Yossi Beilin had any validity according to Israeli law, and accordingly were illegitimate. But the Vatican signed these agreements at the highest levels of government: the Secretary of State is the highest person in Vatican hierarchy after the pope himself. Of course these agreements were designed, by the Vatican, for maximal effect.
The legal personality agreement GAVE AWAY an extremely important RIGHT to the Catholic Church: that of being allowed to SUE in Israeli courts for its properties, something that prior to 1997 was absolutely ILLEGAL in ISRAEL: until then,ONLY THE GOVERNMENT COULD DECIDE WHAT WOULD BECOME OF ISRAELI TERRITORY, and not the CLEARLY BIASED LEFTIST COURT SYSTEM OF ISRAEL, which incidentally also has strong ties to the Vatican, making it the perfect forum for disputes between the Catholic Church and Jewish claims.
David Levy, by signing that document, GAVE AWAY THAT RIGHT.
But since then, negotiations had stalled, the Vatican was clearly losing patience with Israel. Not stranger to interfering with Israeli governance, it appears that it ONCE AGAIN DECIDED TO ACT, when things weren't advancing properly: TIME TO PUT PERES BACK INTO POWER!
SO here comes KADIMA, and here is WHERE ARIEL SHARON 'S STROKE, and THE CRIMINALLY NEGLIGENT MISMANAGEMENT OF HIS TREATMENT - take it from a PHYSICIAN!- COMES IN oh, but SO HANDY FOR THE CHURCH; specially CONSIDERING THAT NUNCIO PIETRO SAMBI, AFTER EIGHT AND A HALF YEARS OF FAITHFUL SERVICE IN JERUSALEM, WAS SUDDENLY ORDERED TO BE TRANSFERRED TO THE UNITED STATES ONLY ONE DAY BEFORE SHARON HAS HIS STROKE .
Just this week, one Arab got 6 years in jail for attempting to poison Jews with a tasteless, colorless powder in Jerusalem: if a STUPID ARAB can do it, WHAT ABOUT THE HIGHLY SOPHISTICATED CATHOLIC CHURCH AND ALL ITS ALLIES IN ISRAEL, I ASK YOU?? And by the way, how would you like to know the most common tasteless, colorless poison used to poison dogs - ( and who knows how many more humans) : how about RAT POISON?
WHAT DO YOU THINK RAT POISON IS: HOW ABOUT COUMADIN, a colorless, tasteless anticoagulant that will cause hemorrhages, that is, BLEEDING, in such interesting body parts as the brain, among others? AND WHAT IF I TOLD YOU THAT COUMADIN IS PRECISELY THE MEDICATION SHARON WAS TREATED WITH WITHOUT SUPERVISION, ( IN ADDITION TO HEPARIN, I WOULD ASSUME, ANOTHER ANTIGOAGULANT ) AND SENT HOME WITH TO THE NEGEV? WHAT DOSAGE WAS HE GIVEN? HOW OFTEN DID THEY DO BLOOD LEVELS, OF BOTH HEPARIN AND COUMADIN, AS REQUIRED BY MEDICAL PROTOCOL? HEPARIN LEVELS SHOULD BE CHECKED A FEW TIMES A DAY, AND COUMADIN DAILY, WHILE DOSAGE IS BEING ADJUSTED: WAS THAT DONE, OR NOT? HOW EASY WOULD IT BE TO GIVE AN EXCESSIVE DOSE OF COUMADIN, AND THEN FAIL TO TEST BLOOD LEVELS TO SEE IF THE DOSAGE IS CORRECT? WHICH DOCTOR IN HIS OR HER RIGHT MIND WOULD START A PATIENT ON COUMADIN WITHOUT CHECKING BLOOD LEVELS??
( Barry Chamish reports that Shimon Peres had tea with Ariel Sharon half and hour before his first, mild stroke: even if true, it doesn't prove anything, because the tasteless, colorless Coumadin is a SLOW -ACTING drug; what could have happened, though, is SLOW POISONING over the course of a few days PRIOR to Sharon's first stroke. Read the information on THE CUP OF BORGIA, in the last section, medical)
NOW ARE YOU PUTTING TWO AND TWO TOGETHER, OR DO YOU STILL NEED MY HELP to understand what happened???
OK. So now we are PAST the Sharon era, into KADIMA TIMES, shenanigans and manipulations at the elections level, as everybody recalls, Peres made president after HIGHLY QUESTIONABLE accusations against Moshe Katsav, - who incidentally was NOT ready to give away Har Tzion, and HAD TO GO!!…. and now it's SMOOTH SAILING FOR THE NEGOTIATION AND THE GIVEAWAY OF JERUSALEM. So easy: an ARAB put in charge of giving away Jewish holy places…. why not, so simple, really!
Fast track to 2009: NOBODY HEARS A PEEP about what's going on: we just find out that BENEDICT XVI is coming for a visit to Israel. ONLY 10 million dollars used to prepare for his visit, among others 6 million NIS, one for every Jew killed in the Holocaust, to RENOVATE CATHOLIC HOLY PLACES. Among others, the CENACLE, which until now had BARE WALLS, because NO PARAPHERNALIA OF IDOL WORSHIP ARE ALLOWED IN A YESHIVA -that is, the Diaspora Yeshiva of Har Tzion. But no worry: RENOVATIONS HAVE ALREADY BEGUN THERE. With other words, the PROPERTIES are being READIED for the pope's arrival, turned into proper Catholic shrines, Jewish or not.
And guess what: THE CONDITION FOR HIS VISIT IS FINALIZATION OF THE AGREEMENT, WITH FINAL SIGNATURES IN A PLENARY SESSION DUE APRIL 23, according to the VATICAN record, or EREV PESSACH, APRIL 7th, according to ZENIT, a CATHOLIC NEWS AGENCY.
( A plenary session is a session in which ALL HIGHER LEVEL PARTIES SIGN, THE VATICAN AND THE STATE OF ISRAEL). Now of course Olmert's people deny everything, but they have lied non-stop, why should they change now? They have to sign away the deal quickly before NETANYAHU's crew comes in , and finds out IN TOTAL SHOCK the hanky-panky that has been going on under the faithless watch of criminals .
To be signed away:
300 million NIS of BACKTAXES due by the CHURCH to us, the ISRAELI PEOPLE.
But even more ominously: THE CHURCH PROPERTIES THE VATICAN DEMANDS:
CONVENT AT HEBREW UNIVERSITY
PROPERTIES AROUND THE KINNERET,
THESE PROPERTIES WILL BECOME EXTRATERRITORIAL TO ISRAEL, IF THE DEAL IS SIGNED. AND THE DEAL IS SUPPOSED TO BE VALID FOREVER, UNCHANGEABLE, PERMANENT, IRREVOCABLE: "A PERPETUITE".
IF THE REPORT OF PERES'S PROMISE TO THE VATICAN IS TRUE, EAST JERUSALEM IS ABOUT TO BE INTERNATIONALIZED, UNDER AUSPICES OF THE UN..
ALREADY, THE UN IS RULING IN THE OLD CITY, FORBIDDING JEWISH CONSTRUCTION.
NEXT STEP: VATICAN RULE FOREVER IN JERUSALEM UNDER THE POPE, THE UN, AND GERMANY.
We have to understand that the Church is perfectly willing to USE FORCE to IMPOSE ITS WILL, and will USE ANTISEMITISM ALL OVER IF IT DOESN"T GET ITS WAY. OF COURSE, NON-RECOGNITION OF ISRAEL WILL BE A GIVEN. WE WILL BE AT WAR WITH THE WHOLE CATHOLIC WORLD.
ON THE OTHER HAND., WE WILL GAIN THE ETERNAL GRATITUDE OF THE PROTESTANTS, WHO HAVE BEEN BITTERLY PERSECUTED BY THE CHURCH FOR CENTURIES AND DREAD PAPAL RULE.
I THINK WE NEED TO FIGHT FOR OUR PATRIMONY, FORCE THE GOVERNMENT TO REFUSE TO SIGN, AND ALERT EVERY JEW ALIVE TO HURRY AND COME BACK HOME BEFORE ALL HELL BREAKS LOOSE.
THE ALTERNATIVE: LOSE JERUSALEM , HAR HABAYIT, ERETZ YISRAEL, FOREVER.
5. THE RUSSIAN CONNECTION
1. In 1989, 1990, Gorbachev was politically active, responsible for Madrid together with the US, the UN ( that equals Rome), etc. What happened since then I am not sure.Remember that he met the pope in a private and very friendly visit in 1989.
Gorbachev and Peres COOPERATE on a number of issues: however, Gorbachev is not representative for Russia at this time, but there is SYMBOLIC CONTINUATION OF THE SAME SPIRIT: SAME ACTIVITIES: see visit of Gorbachev to the pope in 1989, and of Putin in 2007.
Since 2007, PUTIN AND THE POPE have established very friendly cooperation,, they consider themselves brothers in religion, and are coordinating their activities in the Middle East.
So the recent giving away of the Russian compound to the Russians has to be seen in the context of the Vatican give-away: it is part and parcel of the same plan: THE RULERSHIP OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH, WITH THE HELP OF HER SISTER THE RUSSIAN ORTHODOX CHURCH.
I also see a direct connection between Gorbachev's visit to the Vatican and the subsequent Madrid accords. The Pope acted through Moscow as well as through the US and other channels. See also the letter he wrote to Gorbachev THE DAY BEFORE MADRID .
Daisy J. Stern., MD.
copyright 2009, all rights reserved.
Please see all my links , notes, and bibliography below.
EVIDENCE OF BETRAYAL AND TREACHERY BY YOSSI BEILIN, SHIMON PERES, AND THE VATICAN.
INTENTION TO GIVE A LARGE PART OF JERUSALEM TO THE CATHOLIC CHURCH, AND INTERNATIONALIZE THE CITY UNDER UN AUSPICES.
I. THE OFFICIAL AGREEMENTS:
1. On the Vatican's side:
A. The Fundamental agreement -1993:
B.The Legal Personality agreement- 1997:
C. The Vatican-PLO agreement - 1993
2. Definitions and important persons ( Vatican):
A.legal person: wikipedia.org/wiki/juristic_person
B. Secretariat of State ( Vatican)
( as relates to:
3. on the Israeli side:
4.See also, independent agreements made between the HOLY SEE and THE JEWISH COMMUNITY REPRESENTATIVES OF THE DIASPORA.
Starting June 1991, Peres sends Yossi Beilin to Egypt 4 times to make an agreement with the PLO, promising a "Palestinian" state in exchange for the Arab vote for Rabin and Peres, thus putting Rabin into power.
CFR Edgar Bronfman later boasts of using his influence to secure Rabin's elections, believed to have arranged these meetings.
Summer of 1991, open talks with the Holy See , initiative of Archbishop Montezemolo, with Yossi Beilin
October 12, 1991, Edgar Bronfman becomes head of the World Jewish Congress
Letters on the EVE of the Madrid Conference, October 29, 1991, of the pope to Bush and Gorbachev, IN SPANISH! egging them on- :
October 30, 1991, Madrid Conference:
The Madrid Conference was hosted by the government of Spain and co-sponsored by the USA and the USSR [ with the pope in the background!, DS].It convened on October 30, 1991 and lasted for three days. It was an early attempt by the international community to start a peace process through negotiations involving Israel and the Palestinians as well as Arab countries including Syria, Lebanon, and Jordan......
April 1992: On April 1st, the Vatican announces that it favors a Labor victory in the June 1992 elections in Israel
A.This is how the betrayal started : Holy See -Edgar Bronfman -Israeli elections TRIANGLE!
http://www.sidic.org/en/docOnLineView.asp?class=Doc00510 ( May 7th, 1992)
Meeting for the first time in the Western Hemisphere, representatives of the IJCIC and the Holy See's Commission met in Baltimore, Maryland, on May 4-7, 1992. This was the 14th meeting of the International Catholic-Jewish Liaison Committee (ILC). The co-chairs of the ILC are Mr. Edgar Bronfman, President of the World Jewish Congress, and Edward Cardinal Cassidy, President of the Holy See's Commission.
"In the context of the day on which Jews celebrate Yom Ha Atzmauth (Israel's Independence Day, May 7), while recognizing that the question of diplomatic relations between the State of Israel and the Holy See is a matter of competence first and foremost for the Government of the State of Israel and the Vatican Secretariat of State, the Conference participants are conscious of the importance of this question also for Jewish-Catholic relations in general and express hope that significant progress in this regard will soon be achieved.....
...Of particular urgency are joint commitments to democratic principles and opposition to extreme nationalistic movements which threaten democracy. This, the Catholic side noted, was also a major theme and concern of the recent special meeting for Europe of the Synod of Bishops."
..."Relations moved further ahead as a result of a Conference of the ILC in Baltimore in 1992 when the Vatican participants proposed the establishment of joint Catholic-Jewish delegations to appear before international bodies on matters of mutual concern. They also undertook to extend to other countries the initiative of the Italian bishops who had declared that one day a year in their dioceses would be devoted to the study of Judaism and the Jewish people. In the summer of 1992, the Vatican announced the opening of discussions with Israel for the normalization of relations between the two countries toward the establishment of diplomatic ties, which was finally achieved at the end of 1993. (See*Vatican for further developments.)"
ISRAELI ELECTIONS June 23, 1992, barely 6 weeks later! RABIN AND PERES WIN!
B. Joint communique of the ILC, 2001
International Catholic - Jewish Liaison Committee 17th Meeting,New York City, May 1-3, 2001
2. REPORT of other signed agreements and pacts, but without documents
http://www.joelbainerman.com/articles/vatican.asp, see also http://www.joelbainerman.com/index.asp
3.IMPORTANT HISTORICAL RECORD TO PUT EVERYTHING IN PERSPECTIVE, and do a very detailed TIMELINE:
A.CHRONOLOGY OF THE OSLO PEACE PROCESS, by Ephraim Levy
B, VATICAN'S ASSASSINS, by Eric Phelps, invaluable source of historical information about the Vatican, its connection to Hitler, wonderful pictures,etc.; 3 BOOKS.
This is a very short chapter of the book:
C,VATICAN CELEBRATES 80TH YEAR:
D. ABOUT GERMAN DESIGNS FOR THE HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE:
E. Written by myself after months of research, sources available upon request:
THE SECRET MACHINATIONS OF THE VATICAN AND ITS ALLIES IN ISRAEL, 2006:
(NB: 2 typographical errors noted: Fundamental agreement signed in 1993, not 1003, and the POINTS of the agreement are 1.2.and 3.: my apologies.)
Shows clearly how the Vatican sneakily , gradually, dragged Israel into a phony agreement in order to "reclaim"their properties in Israel.
G. excellent summary
4. Report by Yossi Beilin on the history of the agreements:
5. More historical information, and TIMELINE
On the Israeli side, always go to Foreign Ministry affairs, and search., For example:
On the Catholic side:
AsiaNews:; all the way from 2004 until now, one can see the progression - and progress of the talks.
VATICAN - ISRAEL - DOSSIER
Fr. Jaeger: some issues with the government difficult but resolvable
Jerusalem (AsiaNews) - Problems with visas, taxation of religious institutions, restitution of the Cenacle: Fr. David Maria Jaeger, an Israeli Franciscan, shared his views with AsiaNews, in his capacity as a jurist and expert on Church/State relations in Israel, on the central topics of an interview with Avraham Poraz, Israeli Interior Minister.
For Minister Poraz, problem with visas are "all but resolved", thanks to involvement from the Holy See which would vouch for visa applicants. But, for Fr. Jaeger, "In principle, from a juridical point of view, that of the rule of law, all norms regarding the issuance of entry visas and of residence permits must not be kept secret, but be officially published, so that applicants can refer to them in submitting their applications, in evaluating decisions and in considering any kind of recourse. It is clear, that in the middle term, the question will have to be the subject of negotiations and agreement, in accordance with the Fundamental Agreement between the Holy See and the state of Israel.
"The question has been on the bilateral permanent Commission's agenda since 1994, and it would be reasonable to presume that the Commission will deal with it in the next phase of talks."
Tax exemptions for religious institutions is another open question. The minister explained that places of worship are exempt from taxes, but not any commercial or hotel activities that may be connected to them. All such places should, in any case, pay for municipal services such as cleaning, water, etc...
"As far as is known, the Church has never demanded anything other than the recognition of vested rights; in other words, that its legal and tax conditions not worsen with respect to those under previous regimes. It is a matter of reconfirming a law that came into force in 1938, as well as legal and tax conditions that, by UN order, were to be maintained following the creation of the new state. However, just as discussions were taking place to record the contents of that law in the agreement with the Catholic Church (that is, in 2002), the Government drastically reduced the exemptions that were to be guaranteed to the Church. This was certainly not the purpose of the law, but one of its effects, which the agreement should now correct. Personally, I am optimistic about the outcome of negotiations, because I cannot imagine that, right after establishing official relations at the highest level, the Government of Israel would want to go down in the history of Church/State relations in the Holy Land for having worsened the legal and tax conditions of the Catholic Church on its national territory...It would be unthinkable, and that is why I trust the Government to conclude that it must make amends for the undesired effect of recent legislation, and that it is in the national interest to respect vested rights and the will of international institutions. Besides, the Catholic Church has never demanded any sort of exemption for purely commercial activities owned by the Church, if there are any in Israel, nor for the quantifiable consumption of utilities such as water or electricity, which are paid by everyone in proportion to actual consumption."
The minister also mentioned the return of the Cenacle and claims that the problem today "is a disagreement between Churches, on who is to take possession of it" and that the Government cannot enter into this disagreement.
"It's astonishing to hear talk of controversies between the Christian Churches," Fr. Jaeger affirms. "They have simply never existed, as far as the Franciscan Cenacle complex is concerned. Unlike the Nativity in Bethlehem and the Holy Sepulchre in Jerusalem, the Cenacle has never been "shared" or contested....its ownership was properly acquired by the sovereigns of Naples, Robert and Sancha, and, with the backing of Pope Clement VI, was donated to the Franciscan Order in 1342. The convent and sanctuary thus became the mother house of the Franciscan Custody of the Holy Land. It was the Ottoman Turks who, two centuries later, expelled the Franciscans by force. Since then, the Franciscans have always appealed for its return to their ownership, which has never belonged to any other Christian entity, whether Catholic or non-Catholic. And as far back as 1948, Israeli governments themselves have always recognized the Custody of the Holy Land as the sole official Christian interocutor for all questions regarding the Cenacle area. Thus, there has never been a controversy between Christian Churches, and there must never be one, unless someone provokes one in order to "divide and rule", as they used to say in the ancient Roman Empire."
....Tax exemptions for religious intitutions was another question discussed in Tuesday's meeting. The minister explained that measures for tax exemptions date back to the British Mandate. The question of tax measures is part of the agenda for the implementation of the Fundamental Agreement between Israel and the Holy See. "According to our laws -- Poraz explained -- places of worship (churches, synagogues, etc.) are exempt from taxes. If these institutions include shops or offer accomodations for a fee, then taxes can be levied. The only outstanding problem is concerning monasteries, where religious communities are housed. I have decided that they should not pay taxes, but pay only for municipal services, such as cleaning, sewage, water, etc. Municipalities need these taxes because otherwise they would not be able to offer such services."
Another matter mentioned by Poraz concerns the ownership of the Cenacle, once a property of the Franciscans, then of the Muslims and now of the Israeli government. On the occasion of John Paul II's visit to the Holy Sites in the Holy Land, there had been talk of the possibility of returning the place of Jesus' Last Supper to the Church.
Poraz said that "the problem today is a disagreement among the various Churches on who is to take possession of it. And Israel cannot enter into this disagreement. The Orthodox Church and Armenian Church have the right to pray there, together with the Franciscans. There are problems with the use of all the Holy Sites, but these are settled by the rules of the Status Quo. There are no such rules for the Cenacle. Everyone is expecting a decision from Israel, but there is no concrete decision yet."
HERE, FORMATION OF THE KADIMA PARTY, NOV. 21
December 17, 2005, Pietro Sambi transferred to Washington by order of the Pope ( goes in Jan 2006)
December 18, 2005, Ariel Sharon suffers a minor stroke, is treated for it with anticoagulants , and suffers a subsequent massive stroke
AFTER THAT THE ROAD IS CLEAR
Holy See-Israel speeds up work ahead of Pope's visit.
ISRAEL - VATICAN
Hope for a conclusion in Holy See-Israel talks before Pope's arrival in Holy Land
The Bilateral Commission met yesterday. The joint communiqué speaks of "progress" towards an agreement in the making since 1999.
Jerusalem (AsiaNews) – The Bilateral Permanent Working Commission between the Holy See and the State of Israel met on Wednesday 18 February, at the seat of the Israeli Ministry of Foreign Affairs, to continue negotiating a treaty that would confirm the fiscal status of the Church in Israel, and safeguard her properties, especially the sacred places, as well as bring about restitution of some that have been lost over time. These negotiations began on 11 March 1999.
The convoy of motor vehicles with diplomatic number plates, with on board the negotiators for the Holy See, was seen arriving at the Foreign Ministry a little before 10 a.m., and leaving again a little before 1 p.m. The negotiators did not grant interviews, and only spoke, together with the Israeli Foreign Ministry, through a joint communiqué. Interest has been aroused by the fact that this time the communiqué speaks of "progress" that was achieved, beyond repeating the usual references to an atmosphere of "great cordiality" and to the shared determination to conclude the agreement "as soon as possible". For observers, the hope is thus being offered of further progress still before the arrival of Pope Benedict XVI who is expected to come to the Holy Land as a Pilgrim in May of this year.
See also, for the missing links:
in particular, the declaration about the next meetings, which are taking place at great speed in March 2009. According to the Vatican, NEXT PLENARY SESSION IS SCHEDULED FOR APRIL 23th, 2009, IN ORDER TO CONCLUDE THE AGREEMENT.
AGREEMENTS ARE SIGNED AT PLENARY CONFERENCES, not working level meetings.
6. UN resolutions against Israel, re: Jerusalem that the pope is ENDORSING:
there are more to be found on the website as well, some relevant, some less.This is the crucial one mentioned in the article from the Vatican's Assassins.
7. CLAIMS OF THE CHURCH FOR PROPERTIES IN ISRAEL proper, YESHA, JORDAN, etc, and the Vatican's overall strategy for obtaining what they want
If the Holy See has no competence to enter into territorial disputes between Nations, to take sides, to seek to impose detailed solutions, on the contrary it has the right and duty of reminding the Parties of the obligation to resolve controversies peacefully, in accordance with the principles of justice and equity within the international legal framework.
In the case of Jerusalem, both aspects, the religious and the political and territorial, are closely linked, even though they are different in their constitutive elements, in the proper means of dealing with them and in finding a solution to them.
IV. What is the Holy See requesting for Jerusalem?
First of all. it asks that Jerusalem be respected for what it is in itself or rather what it should be, compared with what it actually is. That is what I defined a short while ago as the vocation or identity of the Holy City. Jerusalem is a treasure of the whole of humanity. In view of a situation of evident conflict and considering the rapid transformation of the Holy City, any unilateral solution or one brought about by force is not and cannot be a solution at all.
It is the view of the Holy See that every exclusive claim - be it religious or political - is contrary to the logic proper to the very City itself. I must insist: every citizen of Jerusalem and every person who visits Jerusalem should embody the message of dialogue, coexistence and respect evoked by the City. Exclusive claims cannot be backed up by numerical or historical criteria
Having said that, I must add that there is nothing to prevent Jerusalem, in its unity and uniqueness, becoming the symbol and the national centre of both the Peoples that claim it as their Capital. But if Jerusalem is sacred to Jews, Christians and Muslims, it is also sacred to many people from every part of the world who look to it as their spiritual capital or travel there on pilgrimage, to pray and to meet their brethren in faith. It is the cultural heritage of everybody, including those who visit it simply as tourists.
Consequently, the Holy See believes that there is an obligation to find a realistic solution to the problems of Jerusalem, to all of them, according to their particular characteristics.
There is a political problem concerning Jerusalem for Israelis and Palestinians first of all which is very practical. The Madrid Conference of 1991 and what followed gave birth to hopes of a peaceful future. Hopes founded on a willingness to talk, to negotiate and to seek to compromise. Hopes which appeared well-founded also by reason of the commitment and efforts of a large section of the international community, and in particular of the United States of America, as the events which took place at Wye Plantation in the last few days have demonstrated. Let us hope that the aspirations for dialogue and peace will contribute to the implementation of what has been agreed upon.
In this context, which is certainly both complex and delicate, the Jerusalem question has been placed at the bottom of the agenda. It is understandable that the difficulty and delicacy of the question of Jerusalem have meant that it has been left till last. But we all know, and the Israelis and the Palestinians are the first in this, that peace and coexistence in the Holy Land and Middle East have no future, unless an answer is found to the political question of Jerusalem. Allow me to quote once again from "Redemptionis Anno" of 1984, in which His Holiness Pope John Paul II wrote: "I am convinced that the failure to find an adequate solution to the question of Jerusalem, and the resigned postponement of the problem, only compromise further the longed-for peaceful and just settlement of the crisis of the whole Middle East."
What does the Holy See mean by an "adequate solution"? It means recognizing that the situation today is one of conflict. It means that Israelis and Palestinians, with the collaboration of all who can help them, have to reach an agreement which corresponds in some way to their particular legitimate and reasonable aspirations, and respects the principles of justice.
As far as the Holy See is concerned, however, the solution of a territorial dispute alone is not enough for Jerusalem, precisely because Jerusalem is an unparalleled reality: it is part of the patrimony of the whole world. And the whole world has shown that it is fully aware of this when, for example, through resolutions of the United Nations it has sought to defend that patrimony.
Looking to Jerusalem, the Holy See continues to ask that it be protected by "a special internationally guaranteed Statute". What is meant by this? In the Holy See's view:
the historical and material characteristics of the City, as well as its religious and cultural characteristics, must be preserved, and perhaps today it is necessary to speak of restoring and safeguarding those still existing;
there must be equality of rights and treatment for those belonging to the communities of the three religions found in the City, in the context of the freedom of spiritual, cultural, civic and economic activities;
the Holy Places situated in the City must be preserved, and the rights of freedom of religion and worship, and of access, for residents and pilgrims alike, whether from the Holy Land itself or from other parts of the world, must be safeguarded.
At stake is the basic question of preserving and protecting the identity of the Holy City in its entirety, in every aspect. For example, the simple "extraterritoriality" of the Holy Places, with the assurance that pilgrims would be able to visit them without hindrance, would not suffice. The identity of the City includes a sacred character which belongs not just to the individual sites or monuments, as if these could be separated from one another or isolated from the respective communities. The sacred character involves Jerusalem in its entirety, its holy places and its communities with their schools, hospitals, cultural, social and economic activities.
Israelis and Palestinians, in the desired search for a political settlement of their conflict over Jerusalem, cannot overlook the fact that the City has aspects which go far beyond their legitimate national interests. They, therefore, have to take these aspects into consideration in looking for and in reaching a lasting political and territorial solution. In the same way, they will not be able to avoid giving due consideration to the efforts and demands of all legitimately interested parties. In this, Israelis and Palestinians must not feel in any way restricted, but rather honoured and reassured.
Until now, their main page was quite aggressive. I guess they realized it is not a good idea to publicize what their plans are, so now they changed the look, the words , make themselves look so nice and friendly
You can see at the bottom of this page that they had that " the recovering of the holy sites" by the Franciscans:
http://184.108.40.206/www1/ofm/cust/TSriscat.html: you really need to review this to understand the scope of what they claim they own.
I have a map and list of properties - In Spanish - but cannot find the website any more, please ask for them if you need them,
here is a site in Spanish that is less shy to say what they really mean:
also some truths they know but won't say: http://chiesa.espresso.repubblica.it/articolo/38551?eng=y
8. THE RUSSIAN CONNECTION
A. ADDENDUM ABOUT THE POPE HIMSELF:
Please read THE WHOLE TEXT TO UNDERSTAND THIS POPE and his HASHKAFAH BETTER.
THIS SECTION ALSO DEALS WITH THE RUSSIAN ORTHODOX CHURCH, .
Near the end of June 2007, the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith issued a document approved by Benedict XVI "because some contemporary theological interpretations of Vatican II's ecumenical intent had been 'erroneous or ambiguous' and had prompted confusion and doubt." The document has been seen as restating "key sections of a 2000 text the pope wrote when he was prefect of the congregation, Dominus Iesus."
The document issued on 29 June 2007 stated in part that "oriental Churches [i.e. Eastern Christianity] ...[merit the title sister Churches] Because these Churches, although separated, have true sacraments and above all – because of the apostolic succession – the priesthood and the Eucharist, by means of which they remain linked to us [Roman Catholicism] by very close bonds. ...However, since communion with the Catholic Church, the visible head of which is the Bishop of Rome and the Successor of Peter, is not some external complement to a particular Church but rather one of its internal constitutive principles, these venerable Christian communities lack something in their condition as particular churches."
"These ecclesial Communities which, specifically because of the absence of the sacramental priesthood, have not preserved the genuine and integral substance of the Eucharistic Mystery cannot, according to Catholic doctrine, be called "Churches" in the proper sense." —Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith
The document went on to say "Christian Communities born out of the Reformation of the sixteenth century... do not enjoy apostolic succession in the sacrament of Orders, and are, therefore, deprived of a constitutive element of the Church. These ecclesial Communities which, specifically because of the absence of the sacramental priesthood, have not preserved the genuine and integral substance of the Eucharistic Mystery cannot, according to Catholic doctrine, be called "Churches" in the proper sense."
..... The Russian Orthodox Church, however, called the document "honest", noting that it contains nothing new and was conducive to "an honest theological dialogue." The issuing of this document and the recent allowance made by Benedict XVI for more widespread use of the traditional Tridentine Mass was seen by some of his critics as a move towards conservatism, some even "raised questions about Benedict's commitment to the changes made during the Second Vatican Council."
The SERBIA connection, and how the VATICAN financed the purchase of the weapons to kill Serbs, and help the Muslims of Croatia.
Also, let's not forget how the Ustashe, who killed so many Jews, also killed hundreds of thousands Serbs.
The enemy of my enemy is my friend!
C. The Russian connection:
On March 2007, there was a historic visit of Vladimir Putin to the Vatican, with his bishop(s). Very cordial relations,bilateral friendly ties of both churches, and COORDINATION re: THE MIDDLE EAST,( in particular ISRAEL).
3.MEETINGS BETWEEN HEADS OF STATE ONLY!
4.This shows the increasing ties between this pope and Russia, in particular as regards the Middle East. READ.
...."Now, we must allow for photographs" added the Pope, after Putin positioned himself at the desk, the same place occupied by Gorbachev in his historic visit with John Paul II and then the doors closed on the private meeting which lasted over 25 minutes. Putin and Benedict XVI spoke in German assisted by two interpreters.
Following the encounter, there was the presentation of the delegations and the exchange of gifts. ....""
5.Visit to Italy,
Religious and political interests
Putin's trip to Italy also has a religious-political dimension that should not be overlooked since it is also his first visit to the Vatican. For the Russian president meeting Benedict XVI reflects a desire to have the Vatican on his side in the great strategic game that is being played out on the energy, political, ideological and religious fields. Support from the Church of Rome would help Putin dismiss European and US criticism over Russia's human rights record, its political use of energy supplies and its reticence vis-à-vis sanctions against Iran. It would also reduce the country's historic fear of encirclement.
This is especially true in the Middle East, where Putin like his predecessors probably views Russia as the traditional protector of Christian Orthodoxy in the Holy Land, and wants to break its isolation by preventing the Vatican from aligning itself to the staunchly pro-Israel positions of the US right. This way Russia would not have to make compromise with Islamic fundamentalism which Russians, too, view as a danger.
6. RUSSIAN NAVAL BASE. In 2007, I had read - and sent out - an article about ITALY permitting Russia a naval base in the Mediterranean , after the papal visit, I cannot find the article any more. Here is one from August, but not accurate.
Also this, re: nuclear submarines, from the Jerusalem Post, around the same time
A. meets John Paul II at the Vatican in DECEMBER 1989, historic meeting of reconciliation shortly before 1990, when the Vatican steps up its efforts re; the Jews. ACTUALLY, the 1990 meeting of the ILC takes place in EASTERN EUROPE, after 5 years of NO relationships with the Jews; all of a sudden, the Vatican renews relations with Jews, warming up, going to Auschwitz, meeting in Prague, (pretending to do?) Teshuvah for the Shoah. Prelude to the other meetings later in 1991, etc.( see the article for more details on that)
B. Gorbachev admits he is a Christian
1990 - Mikhail Sergeyevich Gorbachev
Mikhail Sergeyevich Gorbachev was born on March 2, 1931 in Privolnoye, Stavropol province. He went to Moscow State University where he graduated in Law and joined the Communist Party of the Soviet Union in 1952 As president of the Soviet Union, he had a leading role in the peace process which today characterizes important parts of the international community. He pulled troops out of Afghanistan and helped achieve a negotiated solution to the long-running regional conflicts in Angola, Nicaragua and Cambodia. He visited China in May 1989, thereby heightening world attention to worker-student democracy demonstrations there. He established diplomatic relations with South Korea. Gorbachev cultivated unprecedented close relations with Presidents Reagan and Bush, negotiated major cuts in nuclear arms, and started to convert the defense industry to peacetime needs. The defense budget and the size of the armed forces have been cut significantly. He currently heads the Gorbachev Foundation (since 1992), Green Cross International (since 1993), and the Civic Forum movement (since April 1996).
D.THIS article is very important in understanding Israel, the world, the UN, Gorbachev and James Baker in 1991, shortly before and after Madrid, and before the Israeli elections.
E.I have been looking for details, no time now; but SHIMON PERES BELONGS TO GREEN CROSS INTERNATIONAL, is one of the big members. This is an organization based in GENEVA, Switzerland, FOUNDED BY GORBACHEV. They meet there regularly and COOPERATE in a whole range of activities SUBVERSIVE TO ISRAEL, among others. For instance, the WATER ISSUE, with a slant to GIVE AWAY our water to the Arabs for PEACE!! Not only LAND FOR PEACE, but WATER FOR PEACE!
See also, Peres Center for Peace, for their activities:
9. IMMEDIATE PLANS, AND IMMEDIATE DANGER!
A. Re: the Russian Compound : see the cooperation between Moscow and the Vatican re: the Holy Places. First Russia, then Rome??
C. Another Catholic source: Publication: Catholic Insight
Date: Saturday, March 1 2008
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legislature. Negotiations ground to a halt the following year, resuming only after diplomatic pressure from the U.S.A. in 2004.
Since then Vatican officials, notably Secretary of State Cardinal Tarcisio Bertone, have been frustrated at the slow pace of negotiations and the road blocks thrown up by the Israelis. One such particularly thorny issue was the sudden 2007 revocation of visas to religious personnel not born in Israel, cutting off hundreds of priests and religious from their work in the Holy Land. On Jan. 16, 2008, the Israeli Interior Minister announced that, while taking into consideration the security issue, Israel will now make a "concession" of restoring such visas.
Recently, Israel's Holy See ambassador, Oded Ben-Hur claimed that his government was very close to finalizing the full pact--85% agreed, he said. But such statements have been heard before. Pope Benedict would like to pay an official visit to Israel, but he is unlikely to do so until the Fundamental Agreement is signed and sealed. (Files from Catholic Pope Benedict XVI World Report, National Catholic Register & Zenit)
Another piece of news that probably escaped - deliberately - Israelis' attention: the Vatican supports DURBAN II!
Vatican ... planning to attend Durban II conference ￼print this page
09 March 2009
The Vatican has said that it will attend the controversial UN anti-racism conference in Geneva next month ('Durban Review Conference', or 'Durban II') but hoped for a change in the wording of its final declaration."People go to conferences to discuss and debate," Vatican spokesman Federico Lombardi was quoted as saying by the Reuters news agency. He added: "That doesn't mean we agree with the draft text of the final declaration as it is now." Both Italy and the United States have said that they will not attend unless the wording of a document they consider hostile to Israel is altered before the gathering starts. Lombardi said the Vatican's representative in Geneva had "made it clear that the Vatican is opposed to all forms of discrimination, whether it is against an individual, a religion or a state." The Vatican has permanent observer status at the United Nations, but is not a member state.....
See the WJC feature on the Durban Review Conference
E.Servizio Informazione Religiosa - Direttore: Paolo Bustaffa
Tuesday 10 March 2009
15:36 - POPE TO THE HOLY LAND: CATHOLIC ORDINARIES, "FOUNDATION STONE OF A FAMILY CENTRE IN NAZARETH"
After the Pope made the official announcement of his visit to the Holy Land during last Sunday's Angelus, today the Catholic Ordinaries of the Holy Land's Assembly held a press conference to inform journalists about the journey and give some details. At the press conference, it was announced that "the Pope will lay the foundation stone of an international family centre. Always in Nazareth, the Pope will celebrate an open-air Mass. Forty to fifty thousands faithful are expected to attend. Other open-air Masses are going to be held in Jerusalem, in the Cedron Valley, with an expected attendance of 5,000 faithful, and in Bethlehem." Benedict XVI will pray in the Cenacle and in the Holy Sepulchre. The ecumenical programme includes some meetings at "the Greek-Orthodox and Armenian-Orthodox Patriarchate in Jerusalem." On the inter-religious side, "the Pope's meeting with the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, his visit to the Dome of the Rock as well as his prayer at the Wailing Wall and at the Rabbinic centre of Jerusalem - near the central synagogue - have all been confirmed. Among the requests the Israeli government "has promised to satisfy", there is "the possibility for a Christian delegation to come from Gaza, where two buses have already been allocated to drive the faithful to Bethlehem for the Mass."
Tuesday 17 March 2009
13:56 - POPE IN THE HOLY LAND: LEWY (ISRAELI AMBASSADOR TO THE HOLY SEE), "ISRAEL WILL RESPECT THE POPE'S RELIGIOUS SYMBOLS"
"It is not fitting to enter the Western Wall area with religious symbols, including a cross." According to Rabbi Shmuel Rabinovitch, who is responsible for worship matters at the Western Wall, Benedict XVI should not wear the cross during his visit to the Western Wall, scheduled for 12 May as a part of his journey to the Holy Land. The Rabbi's declarations, published today by Jerusalem Post, were followed by a clarification by Mordechay Lewy, Israeli Ambassador to the Holy See. A statement that has just been released reads: "The Ambassador of Israel to the Holy See, H.E. Mordechay Lewy, believes it necessary to clarify that during the next visit of Pope Benedict XVI to the Western Wall, the same procedure that was applied in the Papal visit of the year 2000, will be valid. The Israeli host will respect, as a matter of course, the religious symbols of the Holy Father and of his entourage, as expected in accordance with rules of hospitality and dignity. This was confirmed to a high Official of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Jerusalem personally by Rabbi Shmuel Rabinovitch, who is responsible for worship matters at the Western Wall. This clarification was deemed necessary as today - 17 March 2009 - the Israeli daily "Jerusalem Post" published a misleading quotation of the rabbi."
Tuesday 03 March 2009
17:07 - BENEDICT XVI TO THE HOLY LAND: ISRAEL, LESSONS TO LEARN ABOUT THE POPE, THE VATICAN AND THE CHURCH
500 hours of classes to explain the figure of the Pope and the history of both the Church and the Vatican to the students of the Christian schools in Israel. This is what the local government decided in order to prepare the next visit of Benedict XVI to the country, for which 43 millions of shekel had been allocated, against 30 millions that had been allocated to John Paul II's visit in 2000. This is what parish priest of Jerusalem Father Ibrahim Faltas, an assistant in the Catholic schools of Jerusalem, explained to the SIR. "It is about some lessons on this issues aimed at pupils attending Christian Catholic schools, including Muslims," explained the Franciscan Father. The news is confirmed by Father Elias Daw, President of the court of appeal of the Melkite Greek Catholic Church. With its 60 thousands faithful, this church is the biggest church of Israel. "This initiative is showing Israelis' expectations for the papal visit. This journey comes in a delicate moment, after the tragedy of Gaza, the recent attacks against the symbols of our religion on an Israeli TV channel and the declarations made by Holocaust-denying bishop Williamson," he said to the SIR. Christians in the Holy Land need the Pope and his voice of truth and justice now more than ever." In Israel, there are 44 Catholic schools attended by 24,000 students both Muslim and Catholic.
10.EXAMPLES OF MANIPULATION OF THE RABBIS BY THE CATHOLIC CHURCH.
Peace in and of itself is a beautiful idea; except when it is celebrated in the Cathedral of Aachen, the author of the idea gets the Charlemagne Prize... and we know this:
Now read THIS:
Wednesday 04 March 2009
10:16 - CHARLEMAGNE PRIZE: 2009 EDITION TO ANDREA RICCARDI
The Charlemagne prize 2009 was awarded to Andrea Riccardi, the founder of Saint Egidio Community. The news is reported by the Saint Egidio Community itself. Tomorrow, 5 March, the Community will hold a press conference (5pm. at piazza S. Egidio 3 in Rome) in which Jürgen Linden, Aachen's mayor, and Walter Eversheim, spokesman of the Charlemagne Prize Board of Directors, will meet Riccardi to give him the official news of his award. We decided to bestow the prize on Andrea Riccardi "to hail him as a great European who has put his life at the service of the neighbour, in the best sense of the term, for his passionate commitment to supporting understanding and dialogue between people of every religion and nationality and for the Saint Egidio Community is giving an outstanding contribution to a more peaceful and fair world, which is an extraordinary example of civil commitment for a more human and united Europe both within and outside its borders," the board explained. The prize will be bestowed on 21 March during an official ceremony which will be held in the coronation hall of Aachen town hall. Among the winners of past editions: Angela Merkel (2008), Carlo Azeglio Ciampi (2005), Bill Clinton (2000), Tony Blair (1999), Frère Roger Schutz, Taizé (1989), and before them, Robert Schuman, Winston Churchill, Konrad Adenauer, Jean Monnet e Alcide de Gasperi.
(I guess these INTERFAITH meetings with rabbis bore fruit; the sweet fruit of recapturing Har Tzion!)
There are a lot more examples , some listed in the article, THE SECRET MACHINATIONS OF THE VATICAN AND ITS ALLIES IN ISRAEL, 2006
11. MEDICAL INFORMATION AND RELATED NEWS
"the main benefit of anticoagulants over other poisons is that the time taken for the poison to induce death means that the rats do not associate death with eating the poison."
Use as a pesticide
To this day, coumarins are used as rodenticides for controlling rats and mice in residential, industrial, and agricultural areas. Warfarin is both odorless and tasteless, and is effective when mixed with food bait, because the rodents will return to the bait and continue to feed over a period of days until a lethal dose is accumulated (considered to be 1 mg/kg/day over about six days).