Monday, July 27, 2009
IDF Ignores Threat of Celebratory Gunfire, Yesha Jews Say
Av 5, 5769, 26 July 09 10:40
by Maayana Miskin
(Israelnationalnews.com) In Judea and Samaria (Yesha), as well as the rest of Israel, the sound of celebratory gunfire from an Arab village is not uncommon. Such gunfire often accompanies weddings and other festive occasions in Arab communities throughout the region.
However, Jews in Judea and Samaria have discovered that such “festive” gunfire can pose a very real threat. The Jewish residents of these areas say the risks are being ignored by military and police officials who prefer to avoid possible friction with Arab villagers.
Menachem, who lives in a Jewish community near Ramallah, reports that a bullet pierced the roof of the caravan in which he lives with his wife. The projectile nearly hit their dining room table.
Menachem and his wife were not in their home at the time, and realized what had happened only the next day. Police came to investigate, he says, but told him, “There's nothing to do, these things happen.”
If Jews had fired guns for any reason and hit a nearby Arab home, the police response would have been different, Menachem believes.
A similar incident took place in the Jewish community of Beit El, north of Jerusalem. There, a bullet pierced a local caravan and nearly hit a baby girl.
The girl's father, Yisrael, recalls that a bullet hit his neighbor's house as well. The family heard the gunfire, but only realized the next morning how close the fire had come to causing a tragedy.
Security forces were informed of the incident, but chose not to respond, he say
This reminds me of the second intifada, except this time it is done much more intelligently - I guess they got good training from the American General Dayton. Now it is done under cover of celebrations. JESUIT TACTIC, NOT GOING FRONTALLY. BUT THE FACTS REMAIN THE SAME; A GUNSHOT IS A GUNSHOT IS A GUNSHOT.
WHO SAYS THOSE GUNSHOTS TO JEWISH HOMES ARE ACCIDENTAL? KNOWING THE ARABS, I WOULD SAY THAT THEY ARE DELIBERATE. IT SURE "SOUNDS" LIKE A CASE OF ISRAELI ARMY COLLUSION WITH YET MORE ARAB VIOLENCE.
AND REMEMBER WHO IS TRAINING THOSE PA SOLDIERS: THE USA, UNDER GENERAL DAYTON.. INCLUDING SNIPER RIFLE TRAINING, APPARENTLY... WHAT FOR, I ASK YOU?
AND HOW COME BARAK WANTS TO OPEN TZIR TZION ONCE MORE: SO THEY CAN HAVE MORE 'WEDDING CELEBRATIONS" - reminds me of the 'weddings' of young iranian girls in Iranian jails - , shoot at Jews, and quickly run away?
I HAD SUSPECTED THAT THESE "WEDDINGS" WERE COORDINATED WITH THE PTB, for the noise aspect. NOW IT SEEMS WE HAVE ONE MORE PROOF OF THE CRIMINALITY OF THE ARABS, THE POLICE , THE PTB, AND THE IDF, WHO DELIBERATELY LET THEM GET AWAY WITH SHOOTING AT JEWS.
ONLY BY MIRACLE, SO FAR, NOBODY GOT HURT ...
2. from A7 readers:
1. "there is nothing to do these things happen"
If it happened to the home of the police officer,he be singing a different tune.
All police & IDF personel should leave "Yesha" they serve no purpose there,The local population can take care of these matters,much more efficiantly with-out police or IDF interference.
Hershel, Jerusalem (27/07/09)
3. Arabs have illegal weapons in Jerusalem
Last year at Id-el-fitr, after Ramadan, which coincided with Rosh Hashanah, celebratory gunfire occurred in primarily Arab Bet Zafafa, not 100 meters from Jewish homes and the new Mizpeh in Gilo. Calls by neighbors to the police to intervene received this response: "Don't worry. In a few days it will be over." One neighbor then asked: "And if I fire my gun into the air?" The policewoman answered: "We'll arrest you immediately." Arabs with illegal weapons fire into the air illegally and our police do nothing. The police and politcal establishment have already surrendered the "Arab" parts of Jerusalem. The city is divided. And When the next war occurs, call it Civil War because these Arabs frequently carry Israeli IDs and passports, guess who will be armed. Are we stupid? We need to shovel out the apathetic, defeatist, appeasing politicians and administrators as quickly as possible.
Big Lebowski, Venturamura (27/07/09)
5. Celebratory Gunfire
So, what happens when they start slanting the guns downward? The police involved in this incident should all be released. Why pay they money if they are not doing anything?
Nili, Jerusalem (27/07/09)
3. From our friends:
Get reserve officers to organize and train local community self defense units. In the Jerusalem Post for March 1, 2001, the IDF reported reduced manpower available for defense of communities over the Green Line and said that residents of those communities have to take more responsibility for their own defense. It is high time to take up the offer. The future of Israel as a Jewish state and as a democratic state depends on arming and training the Jews, community by community, neighborhood by neighborhood, to defend themselves. The government has to permit and facilitate it or it will place itself precisely in the role of the British Mandatory government, the protector of the Arabs in their massacres of Jews. Let Kiryat Arba lead the way. It should be emphasized that the threat is to every Jewish neighborhood in the country and every sector of the Jewish population.
The fact is that the whole country is under dire threat and the government seems to be pretending that the threat does not exist. Prior to the closure of Orient House, the Palestinian Authority had been deeply engaged in computerizing the identity of properties owned by Arabs prior to 1948 and matching properties to families. They make no secret of their intention to send hundreds of thousands of "refugees" into "Israel proper", backed up by armed Palestinian "police" to "reclaim" the homes their ancestors had abandoned. Nor do they conceal their intention to kill any occupant who refuses to vacate the premises.
Every Jew in Israel should apply for a license to own a weapon. Whoever is refused should write to every Jewish member of the Knesset demanding legislation mandating the right to own and bear arms. The government and the Knesset should be inundated with requests for licenses and demands for the right to own and bear arms. In fact, we should all demand that the weapons confiscated from the Palestinian terrorists be distributed to Jews. Meanwhile, neighbors should get together and bring in experts to teach them how to secure and defend their neighborhoods.
SHOTS: Karmiel has been non stop on the receiving end of "wedding" celebrations from Majd El Kurum, Dir EL Assad and Bane villages nearby.
They fire from M-16's to Mags using live ammo. In several cases "stray" bullets hit cars in Karmiel.
They have veritable arsenals in the villages and no one in the BP or police dares to go in to remove those weapons...
Rabbi Dov said:
The policy is to push the Jews out of Hebron
For sure. But you know how: BY MURDER and TORTURE, plain and simple - at the hands of the Arabs.
Rabbi Dov replied:
This is an old idea. If the government will do it it will put it far away from any success in the next vote. There is enough place to think that was the reason why the murderer of Kahana was an Arab. There are who claim that he was a delegate of the SHABAK
they are there to PREVENT YOU FROM TAKING ACTION and causing an "international incident."