I saw this in Thursday's Yediot Ahronot … front page, banner headlines and all. Then it disappeared. Tsippi Livni, the foreign minister, who has been strutting around like one of the kingpins of the government, member of the inner security cabinet, chief negotiator with the Palestinian Au8thority, etc. suddenly would have us believe she was taken totally by surprise. She had nothing to do with such a plan and she opposes it with all her being, etc. Sure I believe her. Was she wearing snake skin shoes when she said that? She knows (so does Olmert but he doesn't have to care any more) that this is unacceptable to the public.
Israel has to tell George Mitchell and his boss that anyone who wants the Jews out of Jerusalem will have to carry us out in rubber bags. That has been done before, of course, and the Arabs want nothing more than to do it again, God forbid! I have no doubt that that is precisely what the UN, the EU, the Russians and the State Department want to see happen. The time has come to stand up to the US and the world and say "No." We cannot vote for anyone who will not at least say that openly and publicly. That means Ihud Leumi. But don't leave it at that, citizens.
We have to be out on the streets and get hundreds of thousands out with us.( DS HIGHLIGHT)
Ya'akov
Subject: All the power to Zerach: he sent me this YESTERDAY, but after checking other sources -nothing!- I chose to dismiss it for the time being. MY MISTAKE! Yeshivah World was right after all. Below.
Shevat 5, 5769, 30 January 09 01:31
by Hana Levi Julian
(IsraelNN.com) Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni adamantly denied allegations Friday that she had "sold" Jerusalem in negotiations with the Palestinian Authority (PA) and said she vehemently opposed such a deal.
The Kadima party chairwoman was accused by her top rival in the upcoming elections for the prime minister's seat, Likud party chairman MK Binyamin Netanyahu, of conspiring with Prime Minister Ehud Olmert to offer the PA sweeping concessions that included dividing Jerusalem and internationalizing its holy sites.
Livni's spokesman firmly denied the allegations Friday afternoon, telling Israel National News, "The Minister believes that Israeli sovereignty -- religiously, nationally, culturally and strategically -- must be maintained over a united Jerusalem, including and foremost the religious sites."
The Israeli position negotiated by Livni, he said, was that "Jerusalem will be kept united."
"Minister Livni was not in the room with Prime Minister Olmert and Chairman Abbas when they had their conversation about this agreement. This is something that someone on the other side did," added her spokesman Gil Messing. "It was not the work of Minister Livni. She is against it in all terms that are possible to elaborate and she said so yesterday in the Cabinet."
It is equally clear, he warned, that even in a deal that Livni would support, Jews in Judea and Samaria would end up losing their homes. How many, he could not say. "I don't know the numbers. As many [sic] Jews will remain in their houses where they are right now, however, there will be a division of the land. It is untrue and unfair to say otherwise."
However, whether the plan would ultimately come to fruition will depend on the PA, he added. "It will be an agreement that will represent all of Israel's security needs, and is subject to any change of situation on the ground, including the fight against terrorism," he said, "most importantly the complete dismantling of terrorist infrastructure in the Palestinian Authority areas."
Olmert 'Peace Plan': Divide Jerusalem, Give Up Holy Sites
According to the Hebrew-language daily Yediot Acharonot, Olmert agreed to give up Jerusalem's holy sites under an international authority in a plan similar to that of the "Holy Basin" concept advanced during the administration of former U.S. President Bill Clinton.
Also under the plan, the Jewish State would transfer Arab neighborhoods in the eastern section of the capital to the PA.
Interestingly, the move was predicted by Netanyahu Wednesday morning in a keynote address by at the Jerusalem Conference at about the same time that Olmert was meeting in the capital with US Middle East envoy George Mitchell.
The plan also calls for at least 60,000 Jewish residents to be expelled from their homes in Judea and Samaria, and Israel would withdraw from most of its territory in the region, with the exception of several large populated blocs. The operation would dwarf the 2005 Disengagement from Gaza, a move which has brought one million Israelis under rocket fire from Gaza, besides leaving thousands jobless and in transitional housing to this day.
The new Arab state that would be formed within Israel's current borders would also be provided with geographic contiguity through a series of tunnels and a new highway that would be built to connect Gaza with Judea and Samaria.
However, the prime minister refused to allow the immigration of millions of Arabs and their descendants who fled their homes in the State at the behest of Israel's invading enemies during the 1948 War of Independence, a demand the PA has called the "right of return."
24-hour Media Silence: 'Private Diplomatic Conversation'
A curious cloak of silence by local and international media stifled news of the agreement for almost 24 hours after the initial report was published in the Thursday morning front-page article in Yediot Acharonot.
The paper reported that Olmert had closed on the deal with Mitchell during their meeting Wednesday and provided details about the plan.
However, by nightfall it was impossible to find a trace of the report, which had inexplicably disappeared from the media radar. An internet search revealed not one reference to the day's discussion, with the exception of a lone AFP article in a Philippine newspaper.
Olmert spokesman Mark Regev brushed off late-evening attempts by Israel National News to obtain information about the agreement. "You can ask me anything you want about it," he said," but I don't want to confirm or deny anything. It was a private diplomatic conversation," he said.
Netanyahu: Vows Not to Uproot Jews
Netanyahu lost no time in going on the offensive Friday morning, telling listeners in an interview on IDF Army Radio that he would not uproot any Jews from their homes if he is elected prime minister in the upcoming polls.
The Knesset Opposition leader also said he would not be bound by any deals concluded by the prime minister, and accused Livni of making dangerous concessions in her role as head negotiator with the Palestinian Authority.
"She said she was a partner to all the decisions made by the Kadima government," he said. "Now we see what she decided and what she conceded."
Tzvi Ben Gedalyahu, Avraham Zuroff and Yehudah Kay contributed to this report.
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ZERACH SENT THIS YESTERDAY.
My apologies for neglecting it. Part of the story was also, not being 100% there.
What are we to make of this? HOW COULD WE ALLOW A NON-SITTING , NON-ELECTED, NON-PRIME MINISTER CRIMINAL ABOUT TO GO TO JAIL, TO DO THIS TO US? And what should we do? DS
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From: "The Yeshiva World"
Date: 29 Jan 2009 08:59:01
Subject: Olmert Agrees to Oust 60,000 Residents of Yehuda and Shomron
Olmert Agrees to Oust 60,000 Residents of Yehuda and Shomron
As he prepares to leave office, Prime Minister Ehud Olmert found time to meet with US Mideast envoy George Mitchell during his first official visit to Israel in the Obama administration.
Topping their discussions were issues pertaining to a Gaza ceasefire and related matters but Olmert found time to entertain his high-level guest who is also seeking to advance the White House´s agenda vis-à-vis the PA (Palestinian Authority).
According to reports, the prime minister signaled Israel's approval to the expulsion of 60,000 of the approximately 250,000 residents of Yehuda and Shomron towards realizing a 'final status' agreement between Israel and the PA.
While Olmert already indicated a "massive evacuation" was required in a Rosh Hashanah interview in Yediot Achronot, this marks a step forward towards the implementation of such a move chas v'sholom.
Eastern areas of Yerushalayim would fall under PA rule and religious sites would be under an international jurisdiction, promising access to the three major religions. (We see how the promised access has worked regarding Kever Yosef in Shechem and the Shalom Al Yisrael Shul in Yericho, with both having been burned to the ground numerous times and constantly being defiled by PA residents).
There will be territorial contiguity for PA residents in Yehuda and Shomron, connecting to Gaza via a network of roadways, including a tunnel system. So-called refugees from 1948 will not be granted a right of return, but in the past, the PA has stated there will be no deal without the return of at least some of these peoples' families.
When asked why these matters are not being formulated into a draft agreement, Olmert explained PA Chairman Mahmoud Abbas (Abu Mazen) cut ties until following the elections on February 10th.
Olmert proudly told Mitchell that he heard senior Bush administration officials' state the current offer "Is the most generous Israeli offer to date towards reaching a settlement".
There is much anger in Jerusalem from all the candidates seeking the premiership, realizing the prime minister, who has a limited number of days in office, is seeking to commit the incoming government.
(Yechiel Spira - YWN Israel)
http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/article.php?p=29583
(IsraelNN.com) Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni adamantly denied allegations Friday that she had "sold" Jerusalem in negotiations with the Palestinian Authority (PA) and said she vehemently opposed such a deal.
The Kadima party chairwoman was accused by her top rival in the upcoming elections for the prime minister's seat, Likud party chairman MK Binyamin Netanyahu, of conspiring with Prime Minister Ehud Olmert to offer the PA sweeping concessions that included dividing Jerusalem and internationalizing its holy sites.
Livni's spokesman firmly denied the allegations Friday afternoon, telling Israel National News, "The Minister believes that Israeli sovereignty -- religiously, nationally, culturally and strategically -- must be maintained over a united Jerusalem, including and foremost the religious sites."
The Israeli position negotiated by Livni, he said, was that "Jerusalem will be kept united."
"Minister Livni was not in the room with Prime Minister Olmert and Chairman Abbas when they had their conversation about this agreement. This is something that someone on the other side did," added her spokesman Gil Messing. "It was not the work of Minister Livni. She is against it in all terms that are possible to elaborate and she said so yesterday in the Cabinet."
It is equally clear, he warned, that even in a deal that Livni would support, Jews in Judea and Samaria would end up losing their homes. How many, he could not say. "I don't know the numbers. As many [sic] Jews will remain in their houses where they are right now, however, there will be a division of the land. It is untrue and unfair to say otherwise."
However, whether the plan would ultimately come to fruition will depend on the PA, he added. "It will be an agreement that will represent all of Israel's security needs, and is subject to any change of situation on the ground, including the fight against terrorism," he said, "most importantly the complete dismantling of terrorist infrastructure in the Palestinian Authority areas."
Olmert 'Peace Plan': Divide Jerusalem, Give Up Holy Sites
According to the Hebrew-language daily Yediot Acharonot, Olmert agreed to give up Jerusalem's holy sites under an international authority in a plan similar to that of the "Holy Basin" concept advanced during the administration of former U.S. President Bill Clinton.
Also under the plan, the Jewish State would transfer Arab neighborhoods in the eastern section of the capital to the PA.
Interestingly, the move was predicted by Netanyahu Wednesday morning in a keynote address by at the Jerusalem Conference at about the same time that Olmert was meeting in the capital with US Middle East envoy George Mitchell.
The plan also calls for at least 60,000 Jewish residents to be expelled from their homes in Judea and Samaria, and Israel would withdraw from most of its territory in the region, with the exception of several large populated blocs. The operation would dwarf the 2005 Disengagement from Gaza, a move which has brought one million Israelis under rocket fire from Gaza, besides leaving thousands jobless and in transitional housing to this day.
The new Arab state that would be formed within Israel's current borders would also be provided with geographic contiguity through a series of tunnels and a new highway that would be built to connect Gaza with Judea and Samaria.
However, the prime minister refused to allow the immigration of millions of Arabs and their descendants who fled their homes in the State at the behest of Israel's invading enemies during the 1948 War of Independence, a demand the PA has called the "right of return."
24-hour Media Silence: 'Private Diplomatic Conversation'
A curious cloak of silence by local and international media stifled news of the agreement for almost 24 hours after the initial report was published in the Thursday morning front-page article in Yediot Acharonot.
The paper reported that Olmert had closed on the deal with Mitchell during their meeting Wednesday and provided details about the plan.
However, by nightfall it was impossible to find a trace of the report, which had inexplicably disappeared from the media radar. An internet search revealed not one reference to the day's discussion, with the exception of a lone AFP article in a Philippine newspaper.
Olmert spokesman Mark Regev brushed off late-evening attempts by Israel National News to obtain information about the agreement. "You can ask me anything you want about it," he said," but I don't want to confirm or deny anything. It was a private diplomatic conversation," he said.
Netanyahu: Vows Not to Uproot Jews
Netanyahu lost no time in going on the offensive Friday morning, telling listeners in an interview on IDF Army Radio that he would not uproot any Jews from their homes if he is elected prime minister in the upcoming polls.
The Knesset Opposition leader also said he would not be bound by any deals concluded by the prime minister, and accused Livni of making dangerous concessions in her role as head negotiator with the Palestinian Authority.
"She said she was a partner to all the decisions made by the Kadima government," he said. "Now we see what she decided and what she conceded."
Tzvi Ben Gedalyahu, Avraham Zuroff and Yehudah Kay contributed to this report.
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OLD NEWS, OLD WRITER by Barry Chamish
This writer must be getting old. The energy is fast dissipating. My hair is fading from red to gray. I can barely chew a peach. And the news is all old. I found the right perspective at the peak of my intellectual powers, and nothing has changed other than my desire to search for any new truth that may still be out there.
Israel ended its latest mini-war in Gaza, and the war of attrition continues. And out of Gaza's rubble, great news. Syria wants peace.
PM Ehud Olmert said that the Israeli offensive in Gaza may help reaching an accord with Syria. ''The negotiations with Syria will lead to an accord in the end,'' he said. (Guysen.International.News)
Meir Shetreet: Lease Golan for 25 years and then buy it from Syria
"And with regard to the Golan - I am for real peace. There will be Syrian
sovereignty in the Golan. Real peace means that they lease the Golan to us
for 25 years and after 25 years we will see that there is peace - we will
purchase the Golan from them. The Americans purchased Alaska. The area of
the Golan is half of one percent of the area of Syria."
Minister Meir Shetreet (Kadima) at meeting sponsored by the Council for
Peace and Security on 22 January 2009
as reported in a summary written by Uri Reychav
Now may I can ask; what connection does Gaza have with peace on the Golan? What is Olmert mumbling about? Worse, Pres. B. Assad of Syria responded within two days of his mumbles, telling a Lebanese newspaper that he is ready to negotiate peace, "even with Netanyahu." Meaning, more great news for Israel in the next government. And as for Israel; it's prepared to buy the Golan from Syria.
The old writer's memory kicks in and he's back to the mid-90s when he earned most of his income writing for trade magazines. I was glancing through the real estate pages of the Hebrew newspaper, Globes, when I saw a small item about a little deed Israel owns. It seems that the French Rothschild family, in the late nineteenth century, purchased 20,000 acres in the Golan Heights and in nearby Syria. The deed was later transferred to the real estate arm of Israel, the Jewish National Fund.
I immediately saw the historic diplomatic significance of the item and called my PR source at the JNF. Back then I wrote for a few of the world's biggest water industry journals and the JNF were very pleased with my prominent articles. So I took the liberty of asking my source to photocopy this Syrian land deed for my next story. She promised to call me back and when she did, it was with a request to meet with the spokesman for the JNF.
One can only imagine the extravagant office the head of an agency collecting hundreds of millions of dollars annually must be; the Georgian furniture, tasteful 18th century Flemish art, rare Middle Eastern carpets. Well, forget it, this was Israel. The only art were hoaky JNF redeem the land posters and the furniture was an old desk and the same chairs as in the reception area. The impression of the office has withstood the ravages of the writer's memory.
As did what the spokesman told me. "We can't give you a photocopy of the deed. The government sequestered it. And, off the record, I'm asking you not to remind your readers about the matter."
"Is that your idea?" I asked.
"Between us, no. My superiors consider this a very sensitive subject."
"Then you realize that the JNF owns proof that Israel owns a good chunk of Syria and we could negotiate with the Syrians with a pat hand?"
"Owned. The proof was removed. And don't ask me the ways of diplomacy. This is the one JNF issue that we are banned from publicizing."
**
The old writer has had it trying to convince the under-thinking public that a little 4200 member think tank in New York called the Council On Foreign Relations (CFR) is determining the future or lack thereof of Israel. And he is under-exuberant about the tragically farcical state of Jewish political writing, full of complaints and a paucity of deep analysis. I will add CFR to the following characters of this tragic farce. You can google, CFR membership list, yourself and see if the old man was always right:The likes of Madeleine Albright (CFR), Powell (CFR) and Condoleezza Rice (CFR) claimed that Fatah's collusion with Hamas and Islamic Jihad and its leading role in terror was a
- Column One: History's tragic farce
- Jan. 23, 2009
- Caroline Glick, THE JERUSALEM POST
- It is a fundamental truth that while history always repeats itself, it almost never repeats itself precisely. There is always a measure of newness to events that allows otherwise intelligent people to repeat the mistakes of their forebears without looking completely ridiculous. In December 2000, outgoing president Bill Clinton (CFR) appointed Mitchell (CFR) to advise him on how to reignite the "peace process" after the Palestinians rejected statehood and launched their terror war against Israel in September 2000.
- Given this, it is hard to believe that with the advent of the Obama administration, we are seeing history repeat itself with nearly unheard of exactness. US President Barack Obama's reported intention of appointing former Sen. George Mitchell (CFR) as his envoy for the so-called Palestinian-Israeli peace process will provide us with a spectacle of an unvarnished repeat of history...
consequence of insufficient Israeli support for Arafat.
**
Now here is something to tickle the dying sense of humor of any old bard. It's so much harder to get a good laugh these days. The dictator of Libya, Muamar Qaddafi, was ordered to assume credit for a NY Times Op-Ed. Within, the real authors note that there "definitely" was a Holocaust, so the Jews have an equal claim to Israel as the Arabs. Qaddafi's thoughts alright!
The old grey matter kicks in again. In the late 80s sometime, you look it up, I'm too overworked, Yasir Arafat's plane crashed in Libya, and Qaddafi allowed the US Air Force to go looking for him. I told you. Don't ask why. You think I know everything? Or even anything? They just did, okay?
The Americans rescued Arafat alive and he was transferred to a military hospital where he, "underwent extensive neurological care." Afterward he was unleashed on the world. I told you, I'm not making this up. It really happened.
The New York Times January 22, 2009
Op-Ed Contributor
The One-State Solution
By MUAMMAR QADDAFI
Tripoli, Libya
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/22/opinion/22qaddafi.html?_r=1&em=&page
Disappointment haunted all his dreams. The writer spent years researching his book, Save Israel, which proved that the top man on the Middle Eastern diplomatic food chain is King Juan Carlos of Spain, the Vatican's point man. Oh forget it. It takes too much time to explain. Sure you can eat anything you want, but how come Juan Carlos visited Qaddafi at the same time as the op-ed appeared. You think that was a coincidence, you moron?
http://www.gulfbreezenews.com/news/2009/0122/island_news/059.html
Just interesting! King Juan Carlos is off to Libya tomorrow…
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The movement to liberate Jonathan Pollard was as hilarious as ever this month. They actually petitioned outgoing Pres. Bush to pardon him. They claimed to have clogged
the White House switchboard. When it was over, the ancient scribe received this note circulating in the free Pollard world.
I have been trying for years to get to the bottom of this...maybe Barry Chamish is right?
Whoopee. The closest any doddering old man longs for, reluctant vindication. In a last act of defiance before his motor conks out, the cryptic scribe wrote each of the e-mails requesting that I phone the White House for Jonathan; "PM Peres abused Pollard's data and created Iran Contra which almost destroyed the Bush dynasty, and you expect him to even consider pardoning him. Go waste someone else's time."
Crank to the past. Six summers ago, a group of Pollard supporters, confused and some, disgusted, with the leadership of his "wife" gave me 3000 shekels to find out why Pollard is still sitting in prison. I had a head start and the energy to run with it. A friend, who won't allow me to name him, had written a book about the Bush family. A sizable chunk was about Pollard. He also gave me people to call. Fast off the marker, within a month I had the real story of Jonathan Pollard. It became a chapter of my book Shabtai Tzvi, Labor Zionism And The Holocaust. You go buy it at lulu.com. No more freebies from me. Just know that Pollard is now quoting me word for word. And tell your friends too. I'm worn out.
The Case of Jonathan Pollard Raises Troubling Questions
Richard Cummings - WorldNetDaily - [Original date of publication: December
21, 2008 ]
Pollard learned as well that Bechtel - the American construction giant for
which Weinberger had served as general counsel and for which then-Secretary
of State George Shultz had served as CEO - was facilitating the construction
of the plant through a number of different companies. The firms were
camouflaging it as a "dual-use facility that could be explained away as a
fertilizer plant..." When Pollard's handlers asked him to provide them with the information to
confirm that what Weinberger had told them was true, he produced the
"irrefutable evidence" - there was, in fact, a large chemical weapons
facility...
"Bill Casey wanted me out of the country," he asserts. "To understand my
case," Pollard sums up, "it has everything to do with Iran-Contra."
end
Lucky readers. You get a whole lecture from me. Write me at chamish@netvision.net.il for the DVD.
'Judea, Samaria and the 'peace' process'
pt 1 ~ http://blip.tv/file/1689803
pt 2 ~ http://blip.tv/file/1691549
pt 3 ~ http://blip.tv/file/1692673
pt 4 ~ http://blip.tv/file/1694615
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100,000 RADIATIONS - A REVIEW
http://la.indymedia.org/news/2007/03/194660.php
"...That's how the truth is buried in Israel, and somehow, these tricks work. The same methods were used to cover up the Rabin assassination..."
"...However, a few hundred thousand people saw the film on their screens and they will never forget the truth. If the Rabin assassination doesn't bury Labor Zionism for good, then 100,000 Radiations eventually will..."
THE RINGWORM CHILDREN
https://www.createspace.com/208287
Sabbatain Leader?
Several Iranian media sources are quoting Mahdi Khazali – the son of a leading supporter of Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad – as having written in a blog that the president has Jewish roots. So reports the Hebrew-language Omedia website and Radio Free Europe.
Khazali, son of Ayatollah Abu Al-Kassam Khazali, says that Ahmadinejad changed his Jewish name on his ID card in order to hide his roots. Khazali the son says that the president hides his Jewish roots by attacking Israel and the Jews, and by expressing strong Muslim religious beliefs.
A record of the name change still appears on the president's ID card, however, says Khazali. His old name was Saburjian, and he hails from the Aradan region of Iran. The accusations appear in an article Khazali wrote entitled, "The Jews in Iran." He says the time has come to "reveal the truth" about the Jews' role in Iran.
Ahmadinejad's relatives once told the British paper "The Guardian" that the family had changed its name for "a mixture of religious and economic reasons."
Let it be said that I accurately predicted this war in my book Bye Bye Gaza. http://www.lulu.com/content/575116
"You've done it. Your news service is more informative than your writing."
Not REALLY a compliment, but my alternative news service is becoming very popular with its readers. And it's pay as you can. Write me for free samples.
ISRAEL LOSES and How It Could Have Been Different
by Barry Chamish
Such a waste of lives, property and dignity, just to pave the way for the next and bigger waste of lives, property and dignity over Gaza.
Condeleeza Rice forced a ceasefire down Israel's throat, co-signed by Germany, Italy, Spain, France, Britain and the EU...the usual gang of warmongers. This, as the IDF was poised to rid the world of Hamas and bring in Fatah to rule Gaza. It's heads or tails anyway you look at it. But for this fight, Israel had the quiet, jubilant backing of Egypt, Fatah and the ruling establishment of much of the Arab world. It won't ever be this good diplomatically again.
Knowing that the government was about to betray the south of the country, and its bravest soldiers who saw comrades fall for nothing, as usual, an atrocity was launched to immediately change public opinion. In the spirit of the shadow government's slaughter of Arabs in 1994 to push along the withdrawal from Hebron, another Arab was chosen as the object of the Israeli people's instinctive pity. A Gazan surgeon who works in Israel, Dr.Izzeldin Abublaish, had his home targeted by an Israeli tank, losing three daughters, and the hideous scene was reported seconds later by the grieving, shocked doctor by cellphone to TV Channel Ten's reporter Shlomi Eldar.
And if you think this ghastly massacre wasn't planned, then you don't know the psychological warfare the Israeli government and media play with the people.
Now with Israel pulling out, Hamas will tell its people they won. And God save anyone who disagrees.The little bully Hamas will shout that Israel cheated. They played dirty. And the mean old Americans backed them up, thus, we stood up to the greatest fighters on earth. Therefore, we are the bravest of them all.
(He said we were hiding all through the fighting. That's slander. Behead him.)
But bigmouth Hamas knows he was overpowered and he's already preparing to bring bigger kids with him next time. But first, a little body-building course is called for. And someday the pipsqueak boaster is going to grow up and he's going to be bigger than Israel. And Israel will regret not finishing him off when they had their chance. But Israel chickened out and it will eventually pay for it.
For now, Israel is going to learn that mass destruction isn't winning. That 1400 enemy bodies isn't winning. Only victory is winning.
This is in stark contrast to the war I fought in, the Lebanon War of 1982. Then, the government stated the war's goal was to remove the PLO from the region. To do so, at great cost, it entered Beirut and surrounded the PLO's neighborhoods. It took almost two months but the PLO were forced onto ships out of Lebanon.
To prevent loss of life, the IDF showered a targeted neighborhood with leaflets offering a choice; the PLO surrenders within 24 hours and comes out with its arms in the air, or your neighborhood will be destroyed, including, if need be, by carpet bombing. Innocents were told where to gather safely. It was up to the PLO to save the neighborhood by complying with Israel's terms. There was no room for negotiation. It was unconditional surrender or continuing war.
It was a nasty strategy interspersed with utilities cutoffs and the like, but this was a war of survival and Israel won it. And if Israelis with a different agenda hadn't shoved the Oslo war accord down the country's throat a decade later, this latest bloodbath would never have occurred.
In this invasion Israel should have offered as a first condition; bring us Gilad Shalit, or more likely, his remains, to our lines within 24 hours or face our wrath. That is war with a purpose. The only purpose of the latest invasion was to prepare for the next one. And I have a fair idea when it will come.
Few bothered to notice, but in the twenty days of the Gazan operation, it only rained once, and barely. By joining Jordan and the PA with Israel's water grid in the name of peace, the Kinneret and the artesian wells which served Israel well for 60+ years, in drought and plenty, are all but used up. Come summer, the next fight will be over a glass of water.
נראה לי שזה חשוב כחומר הסברתי לאיחוד הלאומי הבית היהודי ש"ס ואולי אילו הליכוד
מי שיודע דואלים שלהם מתבקש להעביר זאת להם עם העתק אלי
תודה
דב
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Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 2:20 AM
Subject: Fw: Fwd: JUST received this MOST IMPORTANT
Thanks, C. for this expose. Will forward.DS
He was also involved with the casino in Jericho.
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Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 2:29 PM
Subject: JUST received this MOST IMPORTANT
PLEASE send this to everyone you know , Lieberman is a FRAUD Just like LIKUD, he is NOT right wing at all, and will give half the Country away to terrorists. Ask who ever you send it to to so the same to all they know.
VOTE ICHUD LEUMI must be the message, the ONLY honest nationalist right wing party.
US Envoy: Lieberman Met with Arafat Aide, Backed Full Withdrawal
by Baruch Gordon
(IsraelNN.com) In a new book, former US Ambassador to Israel Martin Indyk has dropped a potential political bombshell, revealing that Avigdor Lieberman, head of the Yisrael Beitenu party, once held secret talks on territorial concessions to the Palestinian Authority (PA) with one of Yasser Arafat's key advisers.
In addition, Indyk asserts that Lieberman told his PA interlocutor, Muhammad Rachid, that he was prepared to accept the wide-ranging concessions which then-Prime Minister Ehud Barak had offered to Arafat at the 2000 Camp David Summit.
These included the division of Jerusalem, an Israeli withdrawal from over 95 percent of Judea and Samaria, and a dilution of Israeli sovereignty over the Temple Mount, Judaism's holiest site.
The disclosures are contained in a memoir penned by Indyk, who served two stints as America's envoy to Jerusalem during the Clinton administration.
Page 375 of Indyk's book: "Lieberman had indicated that the broad outlines of Barak's territorial offer [at Camp David] would be acceptable..."The 500-page book, entitled, "Innocent Abroad: An Intimate Account of American Peace Diplomacy," provides an insider's view of the workings of the peace process, including a look at the failed Camp David talks which were convened in the waning days of Bill Clinton's presidency.
On page 375 of the book, Indyk writes that, "After Camp David, with Arafat's approval, Rachid had initiated a dialogue with Avigdor Lieberman, the leader of Yisrael Beitenu, the right-wing Russian immigrant party." He notes that, "According to Rachid's account, Lieberman had indicated that the broad outlines of Barak's territorial offer would be acceptable to the national (right-wing) bloc."
Indyk's revelations could prove damaging to Lieberman, whose party is soaring in the polls in advance of Israel's February 10 elections, thanks in large part to his nationalist image among the public.Irene Etinger, Avigdor Lieberman's spokeswoman, commented on Indyk's claim, "The facts quoted in the book are not true."
Political observers suggest that Lieberman and his party are now likely to come under increased scrutiny in the wake of Indyk's book, particularly in light of Lieberman's past statements on the issue of Jerusalem.
As Israel National News reported previously (link: http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/123848), in October 2007 Lieberman came under fire for suggesting at a cabinet meeting that Israel should divide Jerusalem and transfer various neighborhoods within the city to PA control. In The Jerusalem Post's coverage of Lieberman's willingness to divide Jerusalem http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1191257265427&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull , a senior Likud official said, "He crossed a line that cannot be crossed and we are shocked by the way he has zigzagged between Right and Left."At that time, the Yisrael Beitenu platform, publicized on its website, stated "Unless there is a partition between the Arab residents of metropolitan Jerusalem and its Jewish residents, Israel will find itself with an additional 200,000 Arab Israelis who will turn Jerusalem into a city with an Arab majority. Of course, the addition of such a large number of Arabs to Israel has general demographic importance."
The platform further said, "Neighborhoods like Jebel Mukaber, a-Ram and others can go to 'Palestinian sovereignty."
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US Envoy: Lieberman Met with Arafat Aide, Backed Full Withdrawal
by Baruch Gordon
(IsraelNN.com) In a new book, former US Ambassador to Israel Martin Indyk has dropped a potential political bombshell, revealing that Avigdor Lieberman, head of the Yisrael Beitenu party, once held secret talks on territorial concessions to the Palestinian Authority (PA) with one of Yasser Arafat's key advisers.
In addition, Indyk asserts that Lieberman told his PA interlocutor, Muhammad Rachid, that he was prepared to accept the wide-ranging concessions which then-Prime Minister Ehud Barak had offered to Arafat at the 2000 Camp David Summit.
These included the division of Jerusalem, an Israeli withdrawal from over 95 percent of Judea and Samaria, and a dilution of Israeli sovereignty over the Temple Mount, Judaism's holiest site.
The disclosures are contained in a memoir penned by Indyk, who served two stints as America's envoy to Jerusalem during the Clinton administration.
Page 375 of Indyk's book: "Lieberman had indicated that the broad outlines of Barak's territorial offer [at Camp David] would be acceptable..."The 500-page book, entitled, "Innocent Abroad: An Intimate Account of American Peace Diplomacy," provides an insider's view of the workings of the peace process, including a look at the failed Camp David talks which were convened in the waning days of Bill Clinton's presidency.
On page 375 of the book, Indyk writes that, "After Camp David, with Arafat's approval, Rachid had initiated a dialogue with Avigdor Lieberman, the leader of Yisrael Beitenu, the right-wing Russian immigrant party." He notes that, "According to Rachid's account, Lieberman had indicated that the broad outlines of Barak's territorial offer would be acceptable to the national (right-wing) bloc."
Indyk's revelations could prove damaging to Lieberman, whose party is soaring in the polls in advance of Israel's February 10 elections, thanks in large part to his nationalist image among the public.Irene Etinger, Avigdor Lieberman's spokeswoman, commented on Indyk's claim, "The facts quoted in the book are not true."
Political observers suggest that Lieberman and his party are now likely to come under increased scrutiny in the wake of Indyk's book, particularly in light of Lieberman's past statements on the issue of Jerusalem.
As Israel National News reported previously (link: http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/123848), in October 2007 Lieberman came under fire for suggesting at a cabinet meeting that Israel should divide Jerusalem and transfer various neighborhoods within the city to PA control. In The Jerusalem Post's coverage of Lieberman's willingness to divide Jerusalem http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1191257265427&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull , a senior Likud official said, "He crossed a line that cannot be crossed and we are shocked by the way he has zigzagged between Right and Left."At that time, the Yisrael Beitenu platform, publicized on its website, stated "Unless there is a partition between the Arab residents of metropolitan Jerusalem and its Jewish residents, Israel will find itself with an additional 200,000 Arab Israelis who will turn Jerusalem into a city with an Arab majority. Of course, the addition of such a large number of Arabs to Israel has general demographic importance."
The platform further said, "Neighborhoods like Jebel Mukaber, a-Ram and others can go to 'Palestinian sovereignty."
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Tnx, Moshe. So there is another Muslim taking a stand against the Islamic crazies. May God protect him.
Ya'akov
A must see!
Moishe
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| | | | Report: Gaza detainees held bound for days Seven Israeli human rights groups file complaint with military advocate general chief, attorney general regarding what they describe as IDF's 'inhumane, appalling treatment' of Palestinian detainees during Gaza op Aviad Glickman Seven Israeli human rights organizations urged Chief Military Advocate General Brig.-Gen. Avichai Mendelblit and Attorney General Menachem Mazuz on Wednesday to launch an investigation into reports that Gaza detainees were held in "horrid conditions" and treated "inhumanely" during the IDF's operation in the Strip.
In a letter to Mazuz and Mendelblit, the groups, which include the Association for Civil Rights in Israel, the Public Committee Against Torture in Israel, B'Tselem and Physicians for Human Rights said that detainees arrested by IDF forces in Gaza suffered from appalling treatment while in the army's custody.
The groups claimed that based on testimonies gathered from some of the detainees by lawyers working for the Public Committee Against Torture, many of the prisoners were held inside holes in the ground for long hours, while they were handcuffed, blindfolded and left exposed to the harsh weather. Handcuffed and blindfolded (Photo: IDF Spokesperson's Unit)
"We were handcuffed and blindfolded. They put us in a three-meter deep ditch with some 70 other people," Majdi Muhammad Ayid al-Atar, 43, from northern Gaza described in his testimony.
"We spent two days there without any food, water or blankets. They also didn't let us go to the toilet. Afterwards they moved us to another ditch. The soldiers kept beating anyone who dared ask for anything," he recounted.
Another detainee, Samir Ali Muhammad Atar, described: "The soldiers ordered us to climb down the crater and we were held there for two days… the soldiers kept us exposed to the bitter cold and only on the third days gave every two of us a blanket to share. Throughout this time we were handcuffed and slept on the ground."
According to the organizations, the detainees suffered from hunger, were not allowed to relieve themselves, "and worse even – some of them were being held near tanks and in war zones in blatant violation of international humanitarian law."
They noted that separate complaints about specific cases of torture and abuse would be submitted separately.
In light of these testimonies, the groups demanded that an independent and thorough inquiry be launched, "In order to ensure that such treatment does not repeat itself."
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(IsraelNN.com) The son of a leading Iranian authority accuses the Iranian President of changing his Jewish name.
Several Iranian media sources are quoting Mahdi Khazali – the son of a leading supporter of Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad – as having written in a blog that the president has Jewish roots. So reports the Hebrew-language Omedia website and Radio Free Europe.
Khazali, son of Ayatollah Abu Al-Kassam Khazali, says that Ahmadinejad changed his Jewish name on his ID card in order to hide his roots. Khazali the son says that the president hides his Jewish roots by attacking Israel and the Jews, and by expressing strong Muslim religious beliefs.
A record of the name change still appears on the president's ID card, however, says Khazali. His old name was Saburjian, and he hails from the Aradan region of Iran. The accusations appear in an article Khazali wrote entitled, "The Jews in Iran." He says the time has come to "reveal the truth" about the Jews' role in Iran.
Ahmadinejad's relatives once told the British paper "The Guardian" that the family had changed its name for "a mixture of religious and economic reasons."
Ahmadinejad will be running for re-election five months from now.
Print(IsraelNN.com) The Chief Rabbinate broke ties with the Vatican on Tuesday in protest of the Pope's decision to reinstate Bishop Richard Williamson, who is a known Holocaust denier. Williamson recently claimed that 200,000 to 300,000 Jews were murdered by Nazis during the Holocaust, not six million.
Rabbinate Director-General Oded Weiner wrote a letter to the Holy See Commission for Religious Relations with the Jews explaining the decision. "Without an official apology and recanting, it will be difficult to continue the dialog," he said.
Print(IsraelNN.com) The rate at which Jewish towns in Judea and Samaria (Yesha) expanded was 69 percent higher in 2008 than in 2007, according to Peace Now. The group released its latest report on Judea and Samaria construction on Tuesday evening.
Peace Now accused Kadima and Labor of allowing Judea and Samaria Jews to build new homes and other structures despite committing to stop Jewish growth in the area.
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January, 13, 2009
British police run away from Muslim thug protesters shouting Allah Akbar and free-free Palestine.
They can do anything they want in London, as long as they are numerous and violent. That's the new Rule, Brittania.
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1232643755770&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull
Check out her column about the real meaning of the lawfare being waged against Israeli officers and against Geert Wilder.
Jack
(IsraelNN.com) The Yesh Din group has called on Defense Minister Ehud Barak to fire IDF Chief Rabbi Avichai Ronsky for alleged "incitement." The group said Ronsky had distributed packages to soldiers on their way into Gaza during Operation Cast Lead that it claimed contained "shameful mesages bordering on racist incitement against the Palestinian people, as well as messages that can be interpreted as license to operate outside the bounds of international law."
The IDF Chief Rabbi, who came to the Gaza front lines in full battle gear to bless Israel's soldiers moments before they entered battle, had himself served as a former commander in an elite combat unit, and had fought in the Yom Kippur War. He distributed religious material connected with the Jewish view of how one conducts battle with the enemy.
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