ISRAEL TRUTH TIMES

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Tuesday, January 27, 2009

Re: FW: Solar eclipse tomorrow, 8 - 12 AM Israel time. Read what the sages say about solar eclipses: TOMORROW is an IDEAL TIME TO START OUR FIGHT AGAINST THE VATICAN AND THE FORD FOUNDATION. THEY have the disadvantage now. Let's roll! Below



CARL commented:


DS,
 
I admire your fighting spirit and your zeal for Jacob.  However, and I have learned this from my good friend Eric Phelps, if you expose the Jesuits to the point to where they think you are making an impact, you'll see a war break out either in Gaza, or Lebanon, or Syria, or even action taken against Iran.  It will envelope the entire country and will divert any attention given to your protests.  This is a common Jesuit tactic
 
Carl


DS answered:

Hmmm, thank you Carl - and Eric, of course - for your warnings. We'll have to take this into consideration. However, I don't think it necessarily means that we should just sit back. Just plan carefully. I certainly won't be doing this alone, we need lots of good and smart heads to do it right. But they have it coming!

DS





Jack wrote:

Hitler "liberated" Germany from the Jews.

Richardson advocates a return to the Middle Ages, with the Inquisition the preferred model of the Catholic relationship to Jews. "As Catholic faith goes up, so Jewish power goes down, while as Catholic faith goes down, so Jewish power goes up. In the Catholic Middle Ages, the Jews were relatively impotent to harm Christendom. But as Catholics have grown over the centuries weaker and weaker in the faith, especially since Vatican II, so the Jews have come closer and closer to fulfilling their substitute-Messianic drive towards world dominion... When Spanish Catholics were truly Catholic, God granted them by 1492 to reconquer Spain from the Arabs, and then granted them to create a Catholic empire in the Americas."

Now that Richardson has been rehabilitated, what is there to dialogue about with the Catholic Church? Only one thing: There are many Jewish ceremonial articles and manuscripts in the Vatican archives, which the Church stole from Jewish communities that they massacred over the centuries. Persistent rumor has it that the Vatican archives also contain all the articles that the Romans plundered from the Temple when they destroyed it. If the Vatican truly wants good relations with the Jews, let them return what they have stolen and what was plundered by the Roman Empire, of which the Church is the heir.

 

Jack

 


 DS answered:


It's all very nice, but you know very well that requests won't do a thing.

I think we have to take them on, head on. Not mince words, or actions. Expose their evil deeds.

Re: the Menorah, etc: I don't think it is in the Vatican, Did you read, the Temple's Gold ( I forgot the exact title)? The Menorah, etc, were followed all the way from Rome to Byzantium, and back into the Judean Desert, and then the track is lost. But they have all the rest, for sure, as you say.

The main problem is that they are the instigators, organizers of world antisemitism , but they do it COVERTLY. We have to show the crystal- clear TRAIL that leads from them to the riots in London, Malmo, NY, Chicago, etc.

It CAN be done. There IS a trail. Not following it is, to my opinion, is wasteful and irresponsible, once we know what they are all about.  It will take LOTS OF WORK ( for one thing, to TRACE IT ALL TAKES TIME!), and courage, but I think they need to be exposed PUBLICLY. Once the word gets around, it becomes part of the public discourse. We have to reach that point, we are FAR from that. All we do is ask politely - for BOOKS, for G-d's sake! -, kiss the pope's hand, apologize, beg, and let him get away, LITERALLY, WITH MURDER OF JEWS, all the while he is talking peace.(That is why I say: a wolf in sheep's clothing). We need to SHOW THE TRAIL OF BLOOD OF JEWS , AND ACCUSE THE VATICAN AND THE FORD FOUNDATION OF TERRORISM, which is what they promote: the Inquisition of old, in a new outfit, by the GRAND INQUISITOR and his minions.

How many commentators, Jewish or otherwise do you know, who discuss this openly? It has to become part of the public discourse, to the point that they get scared, or embarrassed enough to stop doing what they are doing. If we SYSTEMATICALLY point out the trail , every time there is an event, and PUBLICIZE it, people will finally wake up. We need a MONITORING GROUP of sorts, like NGO watch, that POINTS OUT the trail of blood, whether it happens in Crown Heights, or Chicago, or Miami, or Los Angeles, or London, or Denmark, or Sweden, OR JERUSALEM!!!! etc. etc. That will take a lot of work, but it is essential.




Who does Israel belong to?


 Zerach sent this. Thanks,  DS

But just a little note: the rock was not struck in Israel: Moses never made it to Israel: it was struck in the desert.

DS


Israeli Sense of Humor at UN

An ingenious example of speech and politics occurred recently in the United Nations Assembly and made the world community smile.


A representative from Israel began: 'Before beginning my talk I want to tell you something about Moses.

When he struck the rock and it brought forth water, he thought, 'What a good opportunity to have a bath!'

He removed his clothes, put them aside on the rock and entered the water.

When he got out and wanted to dress, his clothes had vanished. A Palestinian had stolen them.'

The Palestinian representative jumped up furiously and shouted, 'What are you talking about?  The Palestinians weren't there then.'

The Israeli representative smiled and said, 'And now that we have made that clear, I will begin my speech.


: Hypocrisy!



Edith sent this.Thanks, DS


            Hypocrisy!
            by David A. Harris
            Executive Director
            American Jewish Committee
            January 26, 2009


            Dear Ms. Trine Lilleng,

            You were an unknown Norwegian diplomat till this month.

            No longer.

            As first secretary in the Norwegian Embassy in Saudi Arabia, you recently sent out an email on your office account in which you declared: "The grandchildren of Holocaust survivors from World War II are doing to the Palestinians exactly what was done to them by Nazi Germany."

            Accompanying your text were photos, with an emphasis on children, seeking to juxtapose the Holocaust with the recent Israeli military operation in Gaza.

            Clearly, you are miscast in your role as a diplomat, all the more so of a nation that has sought to play a mediating role in the Arab-Israeli conflict.

            In fact, you're desperately in need of some education.

            Let's begin with your current posting. You've been in Riyadh since 2007.

            If you're so anguished by human rights violations, perhaps you could have begun by devoting some of your attention - and email blasts - to what surrounds you.

            Or were your eyes diplomatically shut?

            Have you failed to notice the many legal executions, including beheadings, going on in your assigned country?

            Have you ignored the often abysmal treatment of foreign workers, many from Asia, who also happen to be disproportionately counted among the victims of Saudi capital punishment?

            Have you neglected the gender apartheid that surrounds you? Did you ever look out of your car to notice that Saudi women are proscribed from driving, and that's hardly the worst of it?

            Have you checked the skyline of Riyadh or Jeddah lately to count the number of church spires or other non-Muslim houses of worship?

            Have you bothered to inquire about the fate of homosexuals?

            Okay, you were AWOL on those issues. Maybe you just didn't want to offend your hosts by speaking the truth, or maybe you're suffering from that diplomatic disease known as "localitis" or "clientitis."

            But surely a woman like you, with such capacity for empathy for those in far-away places, and especially for children in danger, couldn't remain silent about other human rights transgressions, could she?

            After all, could an individual so deeply moved by the plight of Palestinians in Gaza remain silent about what a New York Times columnist earlier this month described as "hell on earth" - Zimbabwe? Could a person so anguished by the fate of Palestinian children stay mum about a country where a girl's life expectancy at birth is 34, much less than half that of her Norwegian counterpart, and where the health care sector has vaporized, all thanks to the one-man rule of Robert Mugabe?

            Could such a dedicated humanist possibly avert her eyes from the deadliest conflict since the Second World War, which has killed over five million people, many of them children, in the Congo in the past decade - not to mention the documented and widespread use of torture, rape, and arbitrary detention?

            An observer of such acute sensitivity could hardly hold her tongue while Afghan girls attempting to go to school have been doused with acid by those who wish to deny young women access to education, reminiscent of the five years of Taliban rule, could she?

            In neighboring Pakistan, where you served in the Norwegian embassy for three years, the beleaguered human rights community must have been fortunate to have such an impassioned voice for all that's wrong in this failing state. Or was that voice, perhaps, on mute?

            The children of Sderot, the Israeli town near the Gaza border, have been in desperate need of just such a spokesperson as you for the past eight years.

            After all, their town has been in the crosshairs of literally thousands of missiles and mortars fired from Gaza. Those Israeli children live with all the signs of trauma, knowing that, with only 15 seconds warning, they could be hit at any time in their schools, their parks, or their beds. Yet, during my visit there last week, for some reason, those children and their parents had yet to hear you speak out for them. What a pity!

            And the children of Iran could use your help as well. According to human rights groups, Iran has no compunction about executing children or those who were children when their crimes were allegedly committed.

            Oh, and by the way, your compassionate help would also undoubtedly be welcomed by others under the gun in Iran, including women's rights activists, union organizers, student protesters, independent journalists, reformist politicians, and religious minorities. And let's not forget, once again, the children of Israel, who, according to the Iranian president, don't have a right to live.

            But wait! A Google search about you reveals nothing, not a single word, regarding your views on Zimbabwe, Congo, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Sderot, or Iran. Or, for that matter, Burma, Darfur, Syria. Shall I go on?

            Only Israel, faced with those who wish to destroy it, manages to prompt your impassioned correspondence and righteous indignation. Why?

            No less, your stunning lack of education extends beyond the contemporary world to 20th century history, specifically the Holocaust.

            Your invocation of the Holocaust to describe what's taken place in Gaza is, frankly, nothing short of obscene.

            Your claim that the grandchildren of the survivors are doing to the Palestinians exactly what was done to them goes beyond any norm of decency, much less honesty.

            Approve or disapprove of the Israeli military operation, but there is no basis whatsoever for such a comparison.

            When Israel entered Gaza in a war of self-defense in 1967, the population was 360,000. After Israel withdrew totally from Gaza in 2005, it was estimated at 1.4 million.

            Would that the Jewish population under Nazi rule had quadrupled!

            When Israel entered Gaza in 1967, life expectancy for women was 46. When it left Gaza, it was 73.

            Shall we even bother to discuss life expectancy for Jews under Nazi occupation?

            The Second World War in Europe lasted from September 1, 1939 to May 8, 1945 - 68 months in all. That means an average monthly extermination rate of nearly 90,000 Jews.

            Compare that to the total number of victims in Gaza over three weeks - roughly guesstimated at more or less 1,000 - and recall that the majority were armed fighters committed to Israel's destruction, who used civilians, including children, as human shields, mosques as arms depots, and hospitals as sanctuaries.

            Believe me, Ms. Lilleng, if the "grandchildren of the Holocaust survivors" had wanted to do exactly what the Nazis did to their grandparents, they would have unleashed their full air, land, and sea power. They would have thrown the Israel Defense Forces' ethical guidelines to the wind, kicked out the UN and Red Cross personnel on the ground, stopped humanitarian transports of food, fuel, and medicine, prevented media reporting, and left absolutely nothing - and no one - standing.

            Unless, of course, they needed slave labor, in which case they would have carted off the able-bodied to work in Auschwitz replicas until they dropped. Or material for ghoulish medical experimentation, in which case, in the spirit of Mengele, they would have kept Palestinian twins alive temporarily.

            But Israel didn't do any of these things. It's a peace-seeking democracy dedicated to the rule of law - unlike so many of the countries whose horrific sins you blithely choose to overlook.

            What are we to make of your selective moral outrage and rank hypocrisy?

            You ought to take a look in the mirror and ask yourself why Israel, and only Israel, makes your blood boil and leads you to speak out, even at the risk of grossly distorting both reality and history.

            The answer, Ms. Lilleng, should be painfully obvious.

            --------------------



  

For your info: who founded, and who is funding B'Tselem - see how the Ford Foundation appears prominently; also as part of other org, such as ICJ, NIF, etc



---------- Forwarded message ----------


From Lise.


Ford founded BT.
NGO Monitor follows things, but fails to go in at the end...






dumb.
NIF = Ford $$
Also money laundering for more.
this is from:
http://www.ngo-monitor.org/article.php?id=1839
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B'Tselem's stated aim is to "document and educate the Israeli public and policymakers about human rights violations in the Occupied Territories, combat the phenomenon of denial prevalent among the Israeli public, and help create a human rights culture in Israel." On its website, its listed donors include Christian Aid (UK), European Commission, DanChurchAid, Diakonia (Sweden), Federal Department of Foreign Affairs of Switzerland , Ford Foundation, International Commission of Jurists - Swedish Section, New Israel Fund, Norwegian Foreign Ministry and Trocaire.
 
B'Tselem's file at the Israeli Ministry of Justice's regulatory body for nonprofit organizations (Rasham Ha-Amutot) declares the following donations in 2006 (this is the most current information available, the list is not exhaustive):

  • €100,000 from the European Instrument for Human Rights and Democracy (EIDHR),
  • Two grants worth €54,000 and €164,090 from the European Commission
  • CHF 99,983 (or 349,728 NIS) from the Swiss department of Foreign Affairs,
  • $45,961 (or 193,167 NIS) from the Norwegian Foreign Ministry,
  • $5,000 (or 23,000 NIS) from The New Israel Fund.
  • Two separate donations from the Ford Foundation:
    • $100,000 (or 449,500 NIS), to be spent over 2006 and 2007
    • $24,774 (or 115,000 NIS) for use in 2006.
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B´Tselem
         
Website:  www.btselem.org
Israeli NGO founded "to change Israeli policy in the Occupied Territories."
Prolific producer of reports from the West Bank and Gaza Strip that are regularly used by international NGOs such as Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch as well as a number of Palestinian NGOs.
Despite its self-declared political aims to change policy, it receives considerable international funding, mainly from European governments.
Recipient of Ford Foundation funding.

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Monday, January 26, 2009

Re: going after the Ford Foundation and the Vatican - some responses, ideas, and questions.





  1.Carl asked:

24 hours elapsed since I sent this e-mail: I see whole armies have volunteered!...

Seriously, how come ONLY ONE PERSON responded positively to my call to go after the Ford Foundation and the Vatican? Don't you think it is important? Or is it that you are scared? Or too busy?  Usually I get lots of responses when things are not that critical; yet,- at least I think so -, going after them is the most useful thing we could do to save Jews... and nobody really seems interested - so far. Please tell me why.

DS

 

DS

I have only one question, WITH WHAT?

Carl


DS RESPONDS:

I would say:

First of all, EXPOSING THEM and their dirty tricks.

LET THEM KNOW that WE KNOW they are behind all the horror we have witnessed these past few weeks. We know what they are all about. We know what they are planning, We see through their masks.

You see, one thing I learned from studying Torah, is that ESAV IS SCARED TO BE FOUND OUT THAT HE IS A MURDERER, because he is AFRAID TO BE PUNISHED! That is why he always hides behind others. The ultimate user of HUMAN SHIELDS is the VATICAN, for your info. That is what their fronts are all about. We have to BLOW THEIR COVER, SHOW THE LINK, PUBLICLY, BETWEEN THE FORD FOUNDATION, THE VATICAN, and the WORLDWIDE RIOTS we have seen recently,

SHOW THEY WERE THE ORGANIZERS.

Let them not hide anymore behind the Muslims, and let the idiot savages take all the blame.

Let them show their faces to the whole world, as the MURDERERS THAT THEY ARE. No more sheep in wolf's clothing, let the whole world SEE THE WOLF'S UGLY TEETH.

Then they will GET SCARED, because THEY ARE COWARDS, and that is WHY THEY HIDE!

The way I see us do that is with massive DEMONSTRATIONS in front of their HIDING PLACES!

DS




2.Lise wrote:

Hi
Can you get us into this activity?
Guidelines Being Composed Right Now
- Perhaps a known connection w. Ford? 
And then to broaden it.
This is Ford.
========

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/129598

Broadcasting Authority to Clamp Down on B'Tselem Reportsby Hillel Fendel

by Hillel Fendel
(IsraelNN.com) The Israel Broadcasting Authority (IBA) is working on a new set of guidelines to help it weed out the bias from sources such as B'Tselem.
The initiative is the result of a request by the President of Israel Media Watch and former Minister of Public Security, Dr. Uzi Landau. In a letter to IBA Chairman Moshe Gavish, Landau asked a series of questions based on research showing that B'Tselem – a left-wing human rights organization – generally releases one-sided and sometimes deceptive information.
 
"Does the IBA deeply check the veracity of B'Tselem reports before they are broadcast?" Landau asked.  "Why does the IBA not note when reporting on B'Tselem that it has a very clear political and ideological agenda?  Is the IBA aware that it has become a propaganda tool in the hands of an organization that wishes to advance its own controversial ideology, without great concern for accuracy? Is the IBA aware that by its very publication of B'Tselem reports, it is hurting its own reputation for truthfulness?"
Guidelines Being Composed Right Now
In his response to Landau, Gavish acknowledged that despite the importance of this matter, it has not yet been dealt with.  Gavish wrote that a new set of guidelines is in fact currently being composed, and its principles are already being brought to editors' attention. 
Gavish included in his letter the protocol of a recent top-level IBA meeting, in which took part IBA Director Moti Shklar, Ethics Committee Chairman Yuval Karniel, Television Committee Chairman Yaakov Shoham, and others.  Material submitted by Israel Media Watch regarding B'Tselem was discussed.
The participants agreed that it is their obligation to check the data of B'Tselem, and similar organizations, before publicizing it.  However, they said, it is impossible to do so in an absolute manner.  It was therefore decided that, when a given report causes harm to a third party, that "aggrieved party" must be afforded an opportunity to have its response publicized during the report in question.
It was also resolved that before recycling the report in subsequent news broadcasts, deeper checks of the data must be conducted.
JCPA vs. B'Tselem
The Jerusalem Center for Public Affairs published a report in October showing that B'Tselem had reported exaggerated and inaccurate numbers of dead Palestinian civilians in clashes with Israeli troops.
Yonatan D. HaLevy, author of the report, wrote that Israel's security network "barely does anything to combat its enemies who are trying to rule the message and the data that are fed to the news outlets and to create the 'historical truth.'"
 


DS comments:

Lise is doing fantastic work re: the Ford Foundation, I am getting tons of material from her, Yasher Koach gadol to her! Anybody who would like the material and is willing to help, please ask. I'll have to put it all together. Soon hopefully. She has given me so much information.

And of course, Eric Phelps is a fantastic resource with anything having to do with the Vatican, CHEERS AND KUDOS TO HIM TOO!

We need to put our heads, minds, and energies together, and we should be able to pull this off, between all of us!


 

3.And Adina said:


DS, which active groups in Israel do you think would most likely call their members to demonstrate against the Vatican? Since they are the principle mischief maker I believe they should be the prime target and it should be done in front of their main base in Jerusalem .

There are several Christian voices in Jerusalem like Stan Goodenough from 'Jerusalem Newswire', and also a Dutch Pastor(I am not sure of his name right now)who might want to assist.


DS answers:

I am asking all of you:

Please contribute with your ideas, together we should be able to pull this off!

Also, Adina, WHERE is their main base in Jerusalem????



4.bill said:


According to the Talmud, the sun stands for the power of the gentile nations.--That is why so many of them worship the sun.
 
When the sun is eclipsed, it hints that their power is waning.--Perhaps a hint that Moshiach is getting closer and closer.
 
Cheer up, all these troubles will soon come to a joyous end.