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Sunday, February 5, 2012

"The Stench of Deceit", Part X: This time we are not talking armies, we are talking votes. Massive vote tampering is no big deal, is it, Bibi, when the goal is selling out Israel to our enemies?! So much for Israeli democracy.




B"H

To all, 

After reading about the obvious, expected, and disgraceful vote tampering within the Likud elections last week, I decided to contact the Feiglin camp, asking them to give me a report about what they know happened with the votes. Here is what they had to say so far. Let me stress that I am not a Likud member at this time: frankly I don't believe in voting in Israel, specially after seeing how the incumbent is cooking the books Soviet style; this is no different from Zimbabwe, or Russia, or any other dictatorship on the planet, for that matter. Keep on calling Israel a democracy if you choose, the fact is it hasn't been a democracy for the longest time. Still, if you do want to add your votes to the Feiglin camp, just in case, and just in case we might actually be able to set the record straight, there is a link provided for that below. I am debating myself whether to do so. 

In addition I have also posted a couple of related and very telling articles, that should open your eyes about the deception, about the dirty politics being played here, if you still doubt foul play . Many Jewish lives depend on this game, so it is essential to distribute this information far and wide, and in as many languages as possible; specially in Israel, where there is a clear news blackout on such matters, it is important for citizens to realize what is being done to them, and what is being done in their name.

Do not fear, Hashem is with us, we know it because we are speaking the truth, and we are helping the Redemption of the Jewish People against the reshaim who are trying to destroy us. May God bless you for your assistance, and thank you.

  • So, first of all, here is the Feiglin report:



When you're engaged in a battle to change the very consciousness of the State of Israel, the hardest thing to do is stay calm while at the same time fighting harder than you can imagine. We came into this election knowing that the deck was stacked against us, as it has been since we positioned ourselves as the faith-based alternative to Israel's current leadership. Jewish Leadership - the name means that our goal is nothing less than replacing the powers that be in their entirety. So a little voting fraud, even a lot of it, doesn't surprise us one bit. In fact, had this election been squeaky clean, we'd feel a bit uncomfortable...

Initial reports of the count given to us by sources high up in the Likud reported that Moshe Feiglin got 36% of the Likud vote, with Netanyahu getting 63%. The story came out at around 1am, February 1. Had that story stuck then Netanyahu would most likely be on his way out of the Likud right now. Just like, had Feiglin kept his number 19 slot on the Likud Knesset roster in '08, Netanyahu would have left the party long ago. Imagine how embarrassing it would be for him if Feiglin were on his knesset list and no matter what he did, no matter how many threats he made, no matter how much iron coalition discipline he threw at Feiglin to vote the way he demanded and, say, kill a bill that would legalize Migron, Feiglin would never, ever break.


There's no one in the Knesset like that. Not one. Some are better than others, but no one dares disobey Netanyahu from within, openly, and challenge his leadership at every opportunity. Feiglin would have, every time, from inside the Knesset, from inside Netanyahu's own party, and he'd get censured and "disciplined" and banned from giving speeches on the plenum and maybe even banned from Likud faction meetings, but he'd vote his conscience and stand out like a sore thumb every time without exception. And the People of Israel would have paid very, very close attention. And the fear and mythology that surrounds the mystical elusive Netanyahu would have evaporated in days


That's why Netanyahu did everything he could to get Feiglin off his list back then, kosher or not. And that's why Netanyahu did everything he could to keep Feiglin at his previous 23% ceiling this time, kosher or not, even though he actually got 36%.


So over 1,000 people voted in Bet She'an, a Netanyahu stronghold, when there are only 700 Likud members there. Fraud. So they kicked our observers out of a bunch of places before the count started. Fraud. So in Beit Shemesh, Feiglin got hundreds more votes than reported according to our observers. Tens more examples like this. We'll fight it. We'll fight it as hard as we can. Maybe we'll win, maybe we'll lose, but in the end what we all must know is this:


Netanyahu and the powers that be can only fight reality for so long. The reality is, every time Feiglin has another shot, more Jewish souls are lit. And once lit, they never go out. At a certain point, the dam will break. There's nothing he or anyone else can do about it, because once the soul of this nation turns towards real Jewish leadership, no amount of fraud will be able to stop it.


So Bibi and the rest, I and those in this country who are awake and ready for the next round, say to you this: Bring it on. We'll be there, and your time is running out.


If you reading this want to be part of the next fight, I urge you to join Likud right this second. Right on Netanyahu's website,  by clicking here





How about this next article? Interesting that the following report by a direct participant in the Beth Shemesh Likud elections should have found its way to the Jewish Press, an American newspaper; yet I cannot find this story published anywhere in Israel. Whom are people scared of, I wonder? Could the "Shebang" have something to do with it? Or could it be that heavy"foreign" presence right here on Israeli soil?

  • http://www.jewishpress.com/news/israel/jewish-press-exclusive-likud-elections-exposed/2012/02/03/

     

    Jewish Press Exclusive: Likud Elections Exposed

    Published: February 3rd, 2012
    Latest update: February 4th, 2012
    An official ballot member and secretary for the Likud primary gives a first-hand account of the controversy surrounding the election.
    .


















    A few weeks ago I was asked by a friend in Likud to offer my services as a non-partisan ballot member for the upcoming Likud elections. I was a perfect fit since I have never been a Likud member and I have never endorsed a candidate in any Likud primary election. So I stepped up and got the job.
    I was delighted when I was offered the chairmanship of the Mevaseret Tzion poll, and happily accepted the position. I was proud to be part of the democratic process of an internal primary and expressed that view during an interview on [JewishPress.com's Managing Editor] Yishai Fleisher’s radio show on Galei Yisrael. I told the listeners that there would be a fair and free election in Mevaseret Tzion and I would not tolerate any corruption. The following afternoon I was told that the elections in Mevaseret Tzion’s community center were cancelled and instead were moved to Jerusalem. I was also informed that I had lost my chairmanship position. I asked a few of my Likud friends what they thought of the situation, and they suggested that this was not a coincidence. Some of them asked that I come forward. Instead I agreed to be transferred to the Beit Shemesh branch. I was not totally convinced there was foul play, and I wanted to see this election through.
    The Beit Shemesh branch election results were known from the start. The traditional Beit Shemesh Likud voters decided to boycott the elections because they felt that Prime Minister Netanyahu had turned his back on them. Last minute efforts by Likud’s Beit Shemesh heavyweight Kati Sheetrit to broker a deal between the two sides failed miserably. A group of Likud contractors stood outside the poll center and made sure to send their people home, preventing Netanyahu from a victory in the Beit Shemesh branch.
    With an expected turnout of about 20%, Moshe Feiglin knew he would be winning Beit Shemesh. The question was by how much. Netanyahu wisely moved three of the four Mateh Yehudah Regional Council polls to the Beit Shemesh location. The move was meant to cushion the hit he was going to take at the seven Beit Shemesh polls.
    I arrived at the polling station at 9 AM. The manager of the location was clueless as to how to set up the ten voting stations and what to do with the 50 or so workers on site. The poll opened at 10:45, 45 minutes late. I spent the day checking voters’ identification and instructing them on how to vote in the three separate Likud elections. Turnout was under 20%. My polling station had the second largest turnout with a whopping 60 voters for the chairman election and 62 for the central committee and local branch elections. Our list had close to 300 voters. The results of my polling station were Feiglin 52 – Netanyahu 8. Observers from both Feiglin’s and Netanyahu’s camps, along with an external lawyer, verified the results. Overall, Feiglin won over 80% of Beit Shemesh’s seven polls, winning 274 votes to Netanyahu’s 60. The final numbers called at 1 AM received a consensus from both camps.
    I volunteered to work extra hours and filled an additional position of securing the ballots. I was entrusted to sign and verify the results of the seven Beit Shemesh polls, including the three Mateh Yehuda polls at my location. The form transferred possession of the ballots from the three lawyers at the location to me. I supervised the transfer of the ballot boxes onto the truck and accompanied the boxes to the drop-off spot in Petah Tikvah. Along the way I signed for the ballots from the additional Mateh Yehuda polling station and four Modiin polling stations. We dropped off the 15 ballots, and I transferred responsibility on to the industrial factory personnel.
    When I saw the Beit Shemesh results posted on the internet – Feiglin 126, Netanyahu 77 – I knew they were wrong. I had verified every ballot result, and the official results appeared to be fabricated. I saw that Feiglin was planning on appealing the results. I decided to take action and called Shmuel Sackett, a key Feiglin supporter, and offered my testimony as part of the official appeal. Sackett discussed the matter with Feiglin’s right hand man, Michael Puah, but the two decided against it.
    I want to make it clear that I am not a supporter of Moshe Feiglin. I don’t even understand the need to tinker with the results because Netanyahu won by a wide margin nationally in any case. The reason I am coming forward with my story is that I believe in democracy. I believe that every vote should count. I believe that it is unacceptable for me to accept the wages for my 20-hour workday and not speak up. All 60 voters at my polling station have the right to have their vote count. As I told the listeners of Galei Yisrael, I won’t tolerate any corruption.
Meanwhile it appears that Netanyahu has more than one way to cook his goose. He must be very desperate, I admit; still, should we put up with his delicate feelings, while condemning hundreds of thousands of Jews to poverty, exile, and worse? I say if we have to sacrifice anything, let's sacrifice Bibi's hubris. Bibi, you are a loser, face it once and for all. Give it up, you are not capable of leading Am Yisrael, you are a weakling and a coward. Just read Shirat Devorah, this week's Haftorah: see how a true Jewish leader is supposed to act. If you can't handle the seat, if it is too hot for you, then GET OFF! Go back to selling furniture, go play golf, anything, I beg you, just give up the hot seat! There is one capable person there, Feiglin, willing to take on our enemies; just give him a try, while you go take your "Pensiah".

    Did PMO Cook the Books in Yesha Vote?

    Arutz Sheva finds that some ministers were not asked to vote, others who demanded recount were counted as abstaining.
     2/5/2012, 4:36 PM

    Netanyahu, Cabinet Secretary Tzvi Hauser
    Netanyahu, Cabinet Secretary Tzvi Hauser


    Did the Prime Minister's Office (PMO) "cook the books" in the latest vote that placed many communities in Judea and Samaria out of the national "preferred status" zones, which confer housing benefits on residents? Numerous ministers think it did.
    The PMO initially published a statement that said a telephone straw poll had been carried out among all the government's ministers and that 15 had voted in favor of the decision, 10 against and the rest abstained.
    However, Arutz Sheva also conducted a telephone poll among the ministers and it discovered a different picture. Arutz Sheva has learned that several ministers were not even asked for their vote.
    Other ministers demanded that the vote be held again, this time publicly. The PMO listed them as abstaining.
    Several ministers said that they were asked – "are you in favor of the proposal [to take Judea and Samaria communities out of the 'national preference zones']?" They replied "no," yet were listed as abstaining.
    The PMO responded to these accusations by saying that the ministers' complaints had not reached the Government Secretariat and that once they did, they would be handled appropriately.
    The Secretariat explained that according to the government's rules for telephone polls of ministers, "once there is a majority one way or another there is no need to keep on calling ministers." In other words, once 15 ministers out of 29 said they supported the decision, there was no need to call any more ministers. That is why four ministers were not consulted.
    Judea and Samaria residents protested Sunday morning outside the Prime Minister's Office against the decision. Minister Yuli Edelstein visited the protesters and said that he had voted against the decision but was mistakenly counted as abstaining. The PMO said it was looking into the complaint.
    “I will ask the Prime Minister to hold a proper discussion of the matter,” Edelstein said. “In all my years in government I cannot remember when such a sensitive topic was dealt with by a telephone vote. I am sure that if the vote had been in person, with everyone able to see how the others voted, we would have seen different results.”
    Some 70 towns in Judea and Samaria had been included in the list of communities entitled for housing benefits, but following the telephone poll of ministers, this list was amended. These communities will now only be able to get the benefits if “political officials” sign off on the requests – probably meaning Defense Minister Ehud Barak, who is not a fan of Jewish construction in Judea and Samaria.

    • Here is Moshe Feiglin speaking after the fact about the election: quite inspiring:





    And finally, just as a reminder, I am also including what the Shomrei Emunim Rebbe of Bnei Brak had to say on Succoth about what is happening in Israel these days; what can I say, he is right.




     


    The Shomrei Emunim Rebbe Shlita [abbreviation for May he have long and good years] granted an interview with the Morasha Magazine for Sukkos. In the interview, he warns of the outbreak of World War III, and spares no words in a scathing verbal attack against President Shimon Peres, who he labels a "rosha" [an evil person], blaming him for much of the tzoros [suffering] that has befallen Am Yisrael [the Jewish people].

    The interviewer, Rabbi Turnauwer, asks the Rebbe how he views the changes taking place on the global scene.

    REBBE: There can be no doubt that we are on the verge of a world war. This is an absolute certainty. The last prophecy in Tanach [Hebrew Bible] is in Malachi, and we learn that prior to the coming of Moshiach [Messiah], it will be clear and there will be war, a terrible war, one the likes of which was not seen since the world's creation.
     
    It is absolutely clear to us that this will take place. This is the prophecy and the prophet never said anything that HaKadosh Baruch Hu [The Holy one, be He Blessed] did not instruct. Even a moment before this occurs we will remain uncertain. It is sufficient for one crazy Arab who takes a plane and directs it into the Vatican, destroying it. This would send the world into frenzy.

    MORASHA: How does the Rebbe see this war?

    REBBE: The prophet says the war will be "a single moment", and we know that an atom bomb causes instantaneous destruction in a single moment. The Abarbanel [Yitzhak Abarbanel, a great sage exiled from Spain with the other Jews in 1492] writes in a number of seforim [books] regarding Gog U'Magog (Armageddon) and the coming of Moshiach. Six hundred years ago he wrote how this war will look. Among the writings is when the nations of the world realize they cannot win they will turn to a nuclear bomb. This will destroy the world as we know it, in a moment. This is what the prophecy states. He however did not know about the atom bomb, but nevertheless spoke of the instantaneous destruction. The Abarbanel even describes the war will be a religious war. No one saw this 50 years ago, the matter of religion was not relevant to the nations of the world, even not with the Muslims or the Christians, but now, suddenly, they are all 'frum' [religious] and feel compelled to uproot the deniers.

    We will not be warned, not even a moment in advance. Everything will destruct in a moment, as the prophet describes. Therefore, we must be prepared at any moment, with all our body and spirit.

    I have been shouting for years calling upon the residents outside of Israel to come home to Eretz Yisrael. Even those unable to do so, at the very least, they should buy an apartment in Eretz Yisrael [the Land of Israel] so they have a place to run to when the time comes.

    MORASHA: What about the declaration of a Palestinian state?

    REBBE: As the time of declaring statehood draw near, it is a sign that they are being pushed out, driven out of Eretz Yisrael. Therefore, Ishmael is turning the world upside down because he continues to seek a foothold here. It is not far off when HaKadosh Baruch Hu will remove the garbage and impurities from Eretz Yisrael, those who delay the redemption, those who will be as a husk in the wind and the flames will engulf the mountains.

    For 120 years, and particularly the last 16 years, they plead with the Arabs to take the land. Our 'shkotzim' (derogatory term) [lit. "disgusting things'] want to give them the land since what is it to them? After all, for them, it is only a vehicle to raise money via the Jewish National Fund. Now that their purpose has vanished they no longer need Eretz Yisrael. They, the Arabs however refuse to take it. Do you have an explanation?

    Our instinct should tell us that HaKadosh Baruch Hu runs the world. Don't worry for we have a defense minister above us, a much more successful one that the one we call the defense minister of the State of Israel. He sits in the Heavens.

    All of the revolutions and turbulence began in 5760 [the year 2000]and since then, the pace increases. We only need to see the Taliban overtake the nuclear facility in Pakistan and then it's over. We are dealing with wild animals that can threaten the entire world. And it will come to being. Then the prophecy will be fulfilled – "והתגדלתי והתקדשתי ונודעתי לעיני גויים רבים". (Hashem's [God's]presence in the world will reach its height at the End of Days when Moshiach will help fix the world. Yechezkel [Ezekiel] 38:23 description of Gog U'Magog).

    500 years ago, the Abarbanel wrote in his holy writings the wonders of what will occur with the Arabs. The entire process is taking place at lightning speed as if one who has a closeout sale in a store, paying off all debts before going out of business.

    Since 5760 the world has not been quiet – a tsunami, earthquakes, Japan, Hashem is taking care of business, not permitting them any tranquility. We have a sense that these acts are in preparation for what is to come.

    In the 'Chessed L'Avraham,' [a book, Compassion of Avraham] Rav Chaim Yosef David Azoulay writes in the introduction in 5760 the oceans will wash away the world and since that year we see both the Christians and Muslims are yelling that the redemption is near since they see and feel it. It is already past the stage of 'signs of the Geula' but one who delves into the words of our Sages and the holy books see that it is visible in our day, the revelation of the wonders.

    The vicissitudes in the world today are not only in the Arab world, but in the United States as well. This is major but most simply miss it, they don't understand. I have studied the shameful behavior of different periods — especially that of the years of the Holocaust, in which there were partners in the murder of Jews, those who demanded money to save Jews, those who refused to accept the rabbonim [rabbis].

    During the time period of the establishment of the state, President Roosevelt placed an embargo, refusing to send weapons to Eretz Yisrael. [Actually, that was Truman.] And behold, they are now losing their influence and experiencing financial collapse. They have lost their values in the eyes of the international community.

    Why all the nations, headed by the 'black dog' (the term used by the Rebbe for US President Barak Obama), an Arab too, and he was elected because he stood for assisting the Arab conspiracy, standing firmly together against Israel.

    A maniac stands up and announces he wishes to annihilate Israel and how does the world react? Nothing! Perhaps a few sanctions… and what does HaKadosh Baruch Hu do, disharmony between them, compelling them to busy themselves with their own matters.

    Regarding the changes in the world, the Admor [Rebbe] adds that "davka" [pointedly] the "black dog" (term the Rebbe uses for President Barak Obama) decided to select Egypt as his venue for his great first address, and from that location he began to bark. In proximity of HaKadosh Baruch Hu, from where the great revolt will occur. And who was the first to place the knife in the back of the Egyptian president – none other than the president of the United States.

    Who ever heard of such turmoil in the Arab world? In the past, if anyone dared to plot a revolution, in Egypt, Jordan or Syria, they sent troops to wipe them out, murdering tens of thousands in a number of days. No one dared to utter a word. What was bad in Tunisia, a quiet nation, and suddenly, a revolution – what was that about. This is because that was a base for the PLO in the past.

    The beginning of Ishmael's fall was in Babylonia, what is Iraq today. 150,000 of these people have already fallen. For 2000 years "O violated daughter of Babylon – praiseworthy is he who repays you in accordance with the manner that you treated us. Praiseworthy is he who will clutch and dash your infants against the rock" (Tehillim [Psalms]: 137:8,9) and Baruch Hashem [thank God] now, we merit seeing this. Is this a trivial matter? Is he blind?

    Look and see just how the leftists hide their true view. Sitting here in Eretz Yisrael is a murderer. I speak of him since he played a role in destroying neshamas [souls] during the aliyah period, and in addition to this, he is credited with the Oslo Agreement that he brought to Eretz HaKodesh [the Holy Land] all the murderers from Tunisia. Some 2,000 Jewish lives have been claimed since as a result of his actions, this rosha [evil man]. For this we don't see a need for an investigation! We simply ignore this?
    "This klipa [husk] called Peres" displayed pig's feet as he helped bnei yeshivos [people of the yeshivot, the Torah learning centers]. He destroys yiddishkheit [Torah Judaism] and there is no one else like him. He sold Eretz Yisrael to Arafat (May his memory be wiped out) for his own interests. All the thievery by elected officials that we have seen. One must question why he is given respect and honor.

    (YWN – Israel Desk, Jerusalem)


    See also:
    http://israeltruthtimes.blogspot.com/2012/01/vote-with-your-feet-just-on-time-for.html

    Shavuah Tov and a happy Tu Bishvat.

    DS

    Wednesday, February 3, 2010

    ATTENTION! WHAT ARE WE SUPPOSED TO MAKE OF THIS?IT LOOKS LIKE A HUGE FRAUD OF A STORY! Re: David Rockefeller allegedly funding the Temple Institute in Jerusalem.

     FOR AN UPDATE FEBRUARY 15, 2010 SEE HERE:

    http://israeltruthtimes.blogspot.com/2010/02/supriem-requiem-requiem-supriem.html

     

    Temple Institute Denies "Supriem Rockefeller" Links

    Shevat 19, 5770, 03 February 10 01:20
    (Israelnationalnews.com) In response to wide-spread reports that the Temple Institute of Jerusalem has linked up with "Supriem David Rockefeller" in a scheme to raise funds for the "rebuilding of the Third Temple," the Temple Institute has issued the following disclaimer:

    "The Temple Institute strongly protests the use of its name and that of Rabbi Chaim Richman in a series of fraudulent press releases and advertising claims that are now circulating on the Internet.
     

    "The Temple Institute has no relationship with Kinti Mining Group,
    “Supriem David Rockefeller,” Frank Love, or the “Temple Now Project.” Their claims that they “will be raising funds to go towards building the third Temple in Jerusalem in strict co-ordinance with the Temple Institute and Rabbi Hiam Richman [sp]” are false and malicious, and their apparent intentions are to take advantage of the Temple Institute’s sincere supporters and rob them of funds. The Temple Institute advises its friends and supporters to avoid being taken in by this scam. We hereby reiterate and reassure our friends and supporters that these groups and individuals are not authorized to represent the Institute, speak in its name, or to solicit or collect funds designated for the Holy Temple, in any manner whatsoever."


    And this is what nik, a Talmid Chacham , very knowledgeable about the issue of the Third Temple and The Book of Yechezkel, had to say about it, after I asked him:

    they want to usurp our plans for the third temple according to the nevuah at the end of sefer yechezkel by rebuilding an exact replica of Shlomo Hamelech's first one... not to serve Hashem with it but a masonic, nimrodian temple to jupiter, lucifer and moloch... do not fall for anything these slime seem to be supporting...
    nothing the rockefellers are into have anything to do with serving Hashem.... if these slime were on our side they would be supporting the settlements and for a jewish state only in all of biblical eretz yisroel... because they are not and because they hate us and wish to destroy us this wish for a temple is not one for judaism and torah but one for their own sick idolotrous purposes... do not think they have suddenly joined our cause...
    they seek to destroy all of eretz yisroel... eradicate all of torah-true judaism from the world and annihilate all dati jews and all of the settlements... they wish to build this false temple to prevent our prophecies of Moshiach and Binyan Bayit Shlishi from ever coming to pass... to see to it that it never comes true... do not fall for this ruse... do not fall for this blasphemous chillul Hashem...

    this is why Hashem gave Yechezkel a vision of what the final temple would look like and instructed him to record it for all-time... in order for us to not be fooled by this fraud that Hashem knew the slime would try and foist upon us... they are counting on us to be fooled into thinking that they mean to build this for us... for judaism... they do not... they are nimord/esav until the very end... determined to destroy avraham/yaakov and rule the world forever from har habayit... do not be taken in by this deception and lie... it means the death of am yisroel and torah-judaism... as well as the end of our hold over ir hakodesh and all of artzenu hakodesh... jews... do not be fooled... nik. out...

    Rabbi H. says:

    Dear Daisy, 
    More than one person has come to the nascent Sanhedrin with offers of money to build the Third Beit Hamikdash, or to help raise funds for the project. 
    We turned them down. Every one. 
    Please broadcast this to the same people to whom you sent the message I am responding to. 
    Thank you,
    Rabbi H.

    He also adds:

    2. One of the reasons, perhaps, behind the strange - but authentic - Medrash that the Third Temple will descend from heaven, could be the very serious disagreements about details. 

    The Rambam says [Kings 1,1] that מלך המשיח will build the Third Beit Hamikdash. He will surely know what to do and does not need any of us to tell him. 


    As the Rambam said [The Book of Kings and Their Wars 12,2]:


    All these things and similar things* - no one has real knowledge** about them, the words of the prophets are not clear, and our sages do not have reliable traditions about them, therefore the discussion is based upon interpretations of verses [of the Tanakh]; these are the reasons there are disputes about these issues. In any case, these issues are not principle issues in religion, and one should not deal at length with Medrashim and Aggadoth dealing with these issues and with similar issues, and one should not transform them into issues of principle, for they do not bring one to the Love of God or to the Awe of God...
    *I think this applies to this discussion, among other issues


    **this phrase is not literally translated; literally: "we will not know of them until they come about"
    I follow Maimonides regarding speculations about the future. As Rabbi Moses Haim Luzzatto wrote in the beginning of chapter 1 of his most famous opus: The Path of the Upright [Mesillat Yesharim]:

    The foundation and source of the perfect worship of God is to realize clearly what constitutes man's duty in this world, and what goal is worthy of his endeavours throughout all the days of his life. 

    Let us devote our life to doing good, and refrain from speculations about the future. We just believe in a general way that when the Almighty deems the right time, the Temple will be built, in the correct place, and will function as the Almighty will direct us. 

    Let us do our best to deserve to see these wonderful times. 

    Sincerely, .....
    Aryeh says:
    This is hoax or a scam.

    bill said:

    I don't think any of these people are qualified to discuss the rebuilding of our BH.

    DS asked: why not?

    bill continues:
    THIS REQUIRES THE LEADERS OF AM YISRAEL. THEY ARE NOT THE LEADERS.




    DS adds:


    Besides, look at the stock symbol: it is a give-away. Do you really think David Rockefeller would use an obscure penny stock to raise money for the Third Temple, if this was an important endeavor for him? ( OTCBB: KMLD).

    That, coupled with the multiple spelling mistakes, points rather to a Nigerian scam kind of announcement, not even a legitimate Masonic plot. I think it is probably some fraudulent company trying to illegally raise funds destined for the Beith Hamikdash. I doubt David Rockefeller had anything to do with this, as evil as he is... but who knows.... 


    Actually, I did a little research on them, and this is what I found: A penny stock company, under the name FRANK LOVE, clearly fraudulent, with some kind of ties to a Husam Bajis, a (rich) computer specialist who calls himself a prince, and who sees himself as the future president of palestine; who does have ties to the Rockefellers, - whose family "owns" land in Jerusalem near the Temple Mount, apparently, and who is PLANNING TO DONATE MONEY( whose money?), (or has donated?), TO THE TEMPLE INSTITUTE, - under the name FRANK LOVE.Unless the whole thing is just a scam by that same arab/arab lover - Frank Love-  to fleece investors once again. 

    Past donations by "Frank Love"??



     Release Source: Kinti Mining Ltd. On Friday January 29, 2010, 12:01 am EST
    LEXINGTON, MISSISSIPPI--(Marketwire - 01/29/10) - Kinti Holdings Group (KMLD)
    (OTC.BB:KMLD - News) President, Frank Love, and Director Supriem David Rockefeller, states the following, "Kinti Holdings will be raising funds to go towards building the third Temple in Jerusalem in strict coordinance with The Temple Institute, Rabbi Hiam Richman and The Palestinian National Interest Committee (PNIC) and supporting Husam Bajis for President of Palestine. Prince Husam Bajis and the PNIC support our mission to build the Temple and to create a One Israel-Palestine state.
    http://www.hotstockmarket.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2352668

    Kinti Holdings Director, Supriem David Rockefeller, states the following, "Kinti Holdings will be raising funds to go towards building the Third Temple in Jerusalem with strict coordinance with The Temple Institute, Rabbi Chiam Richman and the Palestinian National Interest Committee (PNIC). In addition, we will be supporting Husam Bajis for President of Palestine. Prince Husam Bajis and the PNIC support our mission to build the Temple and to create a One Israel-Palestine state."

    Lastly Frank Love states, "Kinti Holdings financial support of the Temple Institute has been under the name of Frank Love. Future financial support will be listed on the "Donors Wall" on the Temple Institute web site under the name Kinti Holdings as this better reflects our commitment to the rebuilding of the 3rd Temple.

     
    About Kinti Holdings Group. We are a division of Kinti Mining Lmtd. that is publicly traded under ticker symbol (KMLD). Our corporation has 50 Million shares Authorized, issued and outstanding, with approximately 80% being held tight within the corporation and its friendly stakeholders. 



      http://godssecret.wordpress.com/2009/10/11/supriem-rockefeller-and-palestinian-husam-bajis-working-on-rebuilding-the-temple-of-solomon/

    http://www.bpnic.org/husambajis.html

    "Prince" Husam Bajis : he, he, he!!!


    Kris Raynes: same guy as Supriem David Rockefeller - S.D. Rockefeller?

    see below, in Comments

    NB: the picture I had posted earlier was apparently NOT Supriem - my mistake, sorry;
    here is the NEW picture of Supriem
    Notice the obelisk in the background: masonic symbol

    JUST WHAT I THOUGH! A FRAUDULENT STOCK VENTURE! Read the last link. 

    Each share is worth one whole penny! I am impressed!

    About Kinti Holdings Group. We are a division of Kinti Mining Lmtd. that is publicly traded under ticker symbol (KMLD). Our corporation has 50 Million shares Authorized, issued and outstanding, with approximately 80% being held tight within the corporation and its friendly stakeholders.
    Please visit our website (www.kintimining.webs.com) for our disclaimer and links to the "Temple Now Project" and Temple Institute.

    ( DS: with other words, they are worth US$ 500,000 , of which $400,000 are tightly held - at least that is what they claim, but they have defrauded investors in the past. And Kinti Holdings is only a DIVISION of this company ).


    http://temple-now-project.intuitwebsites.com/


    http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=319809128311&ref=mf

    LEXINGTON, MISSISSIPPI--(Marketwire - 01/26/10) - Kinti Mining Limited's (OTC.BB:KMLD - News) President, Richard Byrd, makes the following statement, "I wanted to take the time to discuss the lack of liquidity of our common stock. Currently Kinti Mining Lmtd. which trades on the grey sheets under ticker (KMLD), has only 50 million shares authorized, issued and outstanding. Of that, approximately 60% (30 Million shares) is held by our majority shareholder, Khangolov Resources Inc. Another estimated 20% (approximately 10 Million Shares) is held tight by corporate friendly shareholders. Due to the fact that we are not on the pink sheets, we do not have a dedicated market maker servicing the market in (KMLD) common stock. Thus our basic stock chart is extremely volatile. I plan to change that by filing a 15c2-11 very shortly and bringing Kinti Mining Lmtd to the "Current Information" status with Pink sheets."

    THIS is all imaginary: Khangalov Resources doesn't even exists, from what I could tell: nowhere to be found.


    http://www.tradingmarkets.com/print/.site/news/Stock%20News/2730936/
     

    " Khangolov Resources' President Frank Love states, "We are going into the Entertainment Business in a huge way. I have now partnered up with Mr. Supriem David Rockefeller, a financial magnate with strong ties to the entertainment industry."

     Frank Love, president of "Khangalov Resources", who allegedly owns 60% of Kinti Mining, or $300.000 worth of 1 cent penny stock,  seems to indicate a tie to that Husam Bajis , the Arab who lives in Jerusalem, with ties to "Supriem  Rockefeller" . So who owns those $ 300,000 - majority holder- worth of Kinti stock: is it Frank Love the fraudster, Husan Bajis, or Supriem Rockefeller? Or is the whole thing one big scam? Are Frank Love and Husan Bajis one and the same? Interesting questions. And what is their interest in the Temple Institute, besides wanting Jerusalem for the "palestinians"?



    http://kintimining.webs.com/management.htm 

    http://finance.yahoo.com/lookup?s=Kinti+Mining

    KMLD.PKKINTI MINING LIMITED0.01Stock
    PNK

    http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=44967603

    "What really took place? Frank ran JMCP into the ground and after a reverse split he was run off from that shell. Investors lost everything under the same "conglomerate" BS.

    And he also used Khangalov as bait there. I'll dig up some info on that for you."




     Very interesting story, which touches us all deeply. However, I see that dealing with rebuilding Har Habayit raises tremendous passions, even among Jews. Since I really DON'T UNDERSTAND THE SUBTLETIES involved, specially regarding the building itself, the various models according to our sages, the best course of action for this ignorant writer would probably be to stay out of controversy, and not deal with this topic any more. For bigger and better heads!




    "Rockefeller Banking company announces plans to fund the Third Temple!
    When plans this bold and this well-funded are announced for the Third Temple,...
    "Kinti Holdings Group (KMLD) (OTCBB: KMLD) President, Frank Love, and Director Supriem David Rockefeller, states the following, "Kinti Holdings will be raising funds to go towards building the third Temple in Jerusalem in strict coordinance with The Temple Institute, Rabbi Hiam Richman..."
    This article then lists a link to which you can go that shows pictures of the planned Third Temple.


    ....."What is the abomination of desolation? Well, Daniel tells us about two of them. One of them was Antiochus Epiphanes, the Syrian, who came down and destroyed Jerusalem, In Daniel 11:31 ..."
    .......

    DVD
    II. Freemasonry has long had a fervent desire to rebuild the Third Temple.
    Illuminized Western Freemasonry has long desired to rebuild Solomon's Temple on the Temple Mount. Masonic forces of the United Kingdom, United States, and Israel are absolutely determined to rebuild Solomon's Temple. This plan will bring about World War III, Antichrist, and the beginning of the Tribulation.
    This Third Temple will be patterned after Solomon's Temple.
    THE SOLOMON TEMPLE IS THE HEART AND SOUL OF FREEMASONRY!
    Let us examine how important this temple is to the practice of the Masonic religion.
    "Of all the objects which constitute the Masonic science of symbolism, the most important, the most cherished, by the Mason, and by far the most significant, is the Temple of Jerusalem. The spiritualizing of the Temple is the first, the most prominent and the most pervading, of all symbols of Freemasonry ... Take from Freemasonry its dependence on the Temple; leave out of its ritual all references to that sacred edifice, and to the legends and traditions connected with it, and the system itself would at once decay and die ... " ["Encyclopaedia of Freemasonry", by Albert Mackey, MD, 33º and Charles T. McClenachan, 33º, Revised Edition, by Edward L. Hawkins, 30º and William J. Hughan, 32º, Volume II, M-Z, published by The Masonic History Company, Chicago, New York, London, 1873, A.G. Mackey, 1927, by the Masonic History Company.]
    Let us repeat the critical understanding that the noted 33º Masonic author, Albert Mackey, has just given us:
    "Take from Freemasonry its dependence on the Temple; leave out of its ritual all references to that sacred edifice, and to the legends and traditions connected with it, and the system itself would at once decay and die ... "
    Therefore, the first understanding we want you to grasp is that Freemasonry is absolutely, completely, 100% devoted to the Solomon Temple, without which the entire structure and foundation of Freemasonry would die!
    .......
    "The traditions and romance of King Solomon's Temple ... are of transcendent importance to Masons."
    This "transcendent importance" of the Third Temple is the driving force behind this Rockefeller announcement.

    Comments update:

    Ezra says:

    This guy's name is Supriem David Rockefeller. It used to be Kris Raynes. If you want to go crazy, here are the comments of a slew of  "nutballs" writing on the subject.

    Ezra

    DS replies:

    I cannot post it all, we are talking pages and pages of material; it is worth looking at it, though, for sure. I am not sure I understand what is going on here. Do you??

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    ***THE MAIN BOARDS - Welcome to the Prison Planet Forum*** => Off Topic / Faux Controversies / Whining Threads / UFO's => Topic started by: America2 on February 02, 2010, 11:02:31 AM

     Title: Fake David Rockefeller and the Rebuilding 3rd Temple
    Post by: America2 on February 02, 2010, 11:02:31 AM





    Jack said:
    This from a friend of mine:


    Yesterday is the first that I heard anything about this.  I have not been in touch with Rabbi Richman for some time, nor with any of the nascent Sanhedrin members.  It is curious though that two days again “Frank Love” tried to friend me on Facebook.  I didn’t know who he was and so declined and yesterday his name appears in the thick of all this.  I suspect they are simply trying to discredit individuals and/or organizations who are sincerely trying to do something for the Jewish people and the Land.


    Mark writes:

    Daisy,
    I find it nearly laughable that the readers believe we are dealing with level headed people.  These people are slick just like the serpent and when they want something they find a way to make it happen. 
    Rothschild-Red Child
    Rockefeller-Rouge(Fr.)/Roche/Red   Feller/child
    They are certainly Edom/Esav and Rothschild's have been dealing with Zionist Israel since the Belfore Amendment in 1917 and before.  He has his foot in Israel today in many capacities and Rockefeller's are never far away.
    Who would have thought things would be going the way they are today in the land of Israel?  Are they outside forces, inside forces, shadow forces or all the above?  I don't pretend to know what capacity they are involved in, but will never put it past the likes of those people. 
    The Father is in control, that we know, but who is He going to be used to set up the altar and the temple?  None of it is going to happen without conflict and resistance (Zecharyah 12).  If we think this subject is passionate now, wait to till things start coming together.  If the altar is working (to the dismay of animal rights activists) the temple doesn't necessarily have to be finished.  And who says it even has to be a tmeple.  It could just as well be a tabernacle of old.  Could a Rockefeller temple be source of a mockery?  Esav didn't know how to serve YHWH back then, who would think he could do any better this time!  I believe Rockefeller's temple would be masonic to the core and for all mankind (all points lead to god mentality), but not necessarily on the proper location.  Of course it's speculation, but all of us need to be on guard for slick things happening.
    I have a lot more questions than answers, but if anyone says, "they can't do this or that", stand clear!  Things are happening too fast to keep up with on the local level, never mind about the things happening in the shadows of world dominance.
    I fully agree with this statement, but we have many who think they know more than YHWH.  HE has sent a delusion that people will believe a lie because they want not the Truth.  Dvrim.13 says, "he tests/proves us to know whether you love Him".

    All these things and similar things* - no one has real knowledge** about them,
    The Father is preparing to show his mercy again, like he did to Pharoah and others.  We live in exciting times, yet fearful days. 


     UPDATE:

    I FOUND THIS on a website today, 2/7/10:

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    Here is Supriem Rockefeller's official statement.

    We are not out to mislead anyone, in anyway, so let me clear this up. The Kinti press release said Kinti would be supporting The Temple Institute and working "in conjunction" with them in order to build the Third Temple. Kinti is not out to "steal" people's money, Kinti was merely set to make donations to The Temple Institute to go to the great cause of the The 3rd Temple.

    My personal goal is not to build a Temple that saves one race, I am of GD and want a Temple that unites all races. I stand by my support of the PNIC and an Israel-Palestine One State Solution. In the end, GD is the ultimate judge and my actions to try and help The Temple Institute and the people of Palestine will be seen by the world as truly sincere. I ask that all people in the Jewish, Christian and Muslim communities give me their support for the Holy vision of uniting all of GD's children.

    I will do anything to see the Third Temple built except alienate other races in the process. If I have offended the Jewish community in my support for Palestine and Israel uniting, I ask you to see GD's vision and not the vision of a biased nature. The only certainty is uncertainty, so in these times of tribulation I ask that we all stand together as One.



    If anyone saw Kinti's work as a scam, I sincerely apologize for all we wanted to do was help raise money for The Temple Institute but at the same time bringing in funds for the Palestinian National Interest Committee. I am on GD's mission and will continue my work of having a One State Palestine-Israel.

    With GD's blessings,
    SPRM
     http://www.zoklet.net/bbs/showthread.php?t=37333 

    UPDATE! 

    Make sure to watch this; what did I tell you? I wonder if the real SDR learned something from my research:

     

    NEW UPDATE February 15, 2010

    SEE MY NEW ARTICLE ON THE STORY HERE: