Monday, May 17, 2010

Lula- Iran story PART II: the Vatican signed a secret CONCORDAT with Brazil last year. IS LULA THE POPE'S ENVOY?? The concordat contains a military clause that cannot be revoked. VATICAN'S TACTICS WITH BRAZIL VERY SIMILAR TO THE TRICKS PULLED WITH ISRAEL. No wonder Peres is such a good 'friend' of Lula! What's Benedikt trying to do??

 Unholy trinity, above

Military concordat (1989) : text — unratified, but still observed

This concordat embeds Catholic chaplains (and Canon Law) in the military, gives them a central location at the military headquarters and obliges the state to support them. The military concordat is mentioned enigmatically in the new one. This appears to be a move to get the unsuspecting Congressmen to ratify retroactively, a concordat which is legally void, but long since put into practice.



 http://www.camara.gov.br/sileg/integras/637903.pdf

English translation:

Concordat Watch - Brazil -

Concordat: text (2008)

Though called opaquely a “legal agreement” (“acordo jurídico”), this is actually a wide-ranging concordat.

 

Agreement between the Federal Republic of Brazil and the Holy See on the legal status of the Catholic Church in Brazil 

[Signed 13 November 2008, ratified 7 October 2009]

In the Vatican's ornate Treaty Room the President of Brazil watches as Archbishop Dominique Mamberti, Vatican Secretary for Relations with States, signs the concordat.
The Federal Republic of Brazil and
The Holy See

(hereafter referred to as the High Contracting Parties),

Mindful of the fact that the Holy See is the supreme authority of the Catholic Church, governed by Canon Law;
Mindful of the historical relations between the Catholic Church and Brazil and their respective responsibilities in the service of society and of the full good of the human person;
Affirming that the High Contracting Parties are, each in their respective spheres, autonomous, independent and sovereign, and cooperate to build a more fraternal, peaceful and just society;
Based by the Holy See on the documents of Vatican Council II and the Code of Canon Law of the Holy See, and by the Federal Republic of Brazil on its body of laws;
Reaffirming adherence to the internationally recognised principle of religious freedom;
Recognising that the Brazilian Constitution guarantees the free exercise of religious worship;
With the intention of strengthening and promoting the existing mutual relations;

Agree to what follows:

Article 1
The High Contracting Parties will continue to be represented in their diplomatic relations by an Apostolic Nuncio accredited with the Republic of Brazil, and an Ambassador of Brazil accredited with the Holy See, with the immunities and guarantees provided by Vienna Convention on Diplomatic Relations of April 18, 1961, and other international laws.

Article 2
Based on the right to religious freedom, the Federal Republic of Brazil recognises the right of the Catholic Church to carry out its apostolic mission, guaranteeing the public exercise of its activities, in accordance with the laws of Brazil.

Article 3
The Federal Republic of Brazil reaffirms the legal personality of the Catholic Church and all Ecclesiastical Institutions that have such a personality in accordance with Canon Law, where this does not contravene the Brazilian Constitution and laws, examples [of such institutions] being the Episcopal Conference, Ecclesiastical Provinces, Archdioceses, Dioceses, Personal or Territorial Prelatures, and Apostolic Vicariates and Prefectures, Apostolic Administrations, Personal Apostolic Administrations, Missions Sui Iuris [independent missions], the Military Ordinary and Ordinary for the faithful of other rites, Parishes, Institutes of Consecrated Life and Societies of Apostolic Life.
§ 1. The Catholic Church can freely create, modify or abolish all Ecclesiastical Institutions mentioned at the head of this article.
§ 2. The legal personality of Ecclesiastical Institutions of the Church will be recognised by the Federal Republic of Brazil through the registry entry, insofar as they are created in accordance with Brazilian law, and the government is forbidden to deny them recognition or the registration of the document attesting to their creation; furthermore, all alterations of this document [i.e., of the rules of these institutions] must also be registered.

Article 4
The Holy See declares that no ecclesiastical district will depend on a Brazilian Church bishop whose seat is located in foreign territory.

Article 5
The ecclesiastical juridical persons recognised according to Article 3, who, in addition to religious purposes, also have the purpose of assistance and social solidarity, shall be entitled to pursue their own activities and enjoy all of the rights, immunities, exemptions and benefits granted to entities with purposes of a similar nature under Brazilian law, provided they fulfil the requirements and obligations of Brazilian law.

Article 6
The High [Contracting] Parties recognise that the historical, artistic and cultural heritage of the Catholic Church, and the documents preserved in its archives and libraries, are an important part of the Brazilian cultural heritage and [the Parties] will continue to cooperate to protect, value and promote the [cultural] contribution of property, both movable and immovable, of the Catholic Church or other ecclesiastical juridical persons deemed by Brazil as part of its cultural and artistic heritage.
§ 1. The Federal Republic of Brazil, in accordance with the principle of cooperation, recognises that the intrinsic purpose of the church goods mentioned in the head of this article should be protected by Brazilian law, while not hindering other ends that might arise from their cultural nature.
§ 2. The Catholic Church, aware of the value of its cultural assets, is committed to facilitating access to them for those who want to know and study them, so long as their religious purposes are protected, as well as the need to safeguard and preserve their archives.

Article 7
The Federal Republic of Brazil shall, in accordance with to its laws, take the measures necessary to ensure the protection of places of worship of the Catholic Church, as well as its liturgy, symbols, images and objects of veneration, against all forms of violation, disrespect and illegitimate use.
§ 1. No building, dependency or object related to the Catholic creed can, so as long as the social ends of the property and the [requirements of] the law are met, be demolished, occupied, transported, subject to alteration or consigned by the State and public bodies to different purposes, except due to the needs or utility of the state or because of social needs, in accordance with the Brazilian Constitution.

Article 8
The Catholic Church, with regard for the common good of the Brazilian society, especially the most needy citizens, undertakes, subject to the requirements of the law, to give pastoral care to the faithful who are committed to institutions of health, welfare, education or similar ones, or detained in prison or similar institutions, while abiding by the rules of each institution, and who cannot engage in normal religious practice and request this. The Federal Republic of Brazil guarantees the Catholic Church the right to perform this service, which is intrinsic to its mission.

Article 9
Reciprocal recognition of titles and qualifications at undergraduate and graduate levels will be subject to the requirements of both the laws of Brazil and those of the Holy See [Canon Law].

Article 10
The Catholic Church, mindful of the principle of cooperation with the State, will continue to put its educational institutions, of all levels, at the service of society, according to their purposes and the requirements of Brazilian law.
§ 1. The Federal Republic of Brazil recognises the right of the Catholic Church to establish and manage seminaries and other ecclesiastic institutes of education and culture.

§ 2. The recognition of civil effects of studies, degrees and qualifications obtained in the seminaries and institutes listed above is governed by Brazilian law, in parity with studies of a similar nature.

Article 11
The Federal Republic of Brazil, observing the right to religious freedom, cultural diversity and religious plurality in the country, respects the importance of religious education with a view to the essential [religious] formation of the person.
§ 1. The religious education, both Catholic and of other religious denominations, to be optional, is a regular discipline in normal hours of state schools in primary education, so long as the respect for religious diversity of Brazil is ensured, in accordance with the Constitution and other laws, without any form of discrimination.

Article 12
Marriage concluded in accordance with Canon Law, which also meets the requirements for marriage established by Brazilian law, produces civil effects, provided that it is registered [individually] in its own registration, being valid as soon as it is celebrated.
§ 1. The approval of ecclesiastical judgments in matrimonial matters, confirmed by the highest judicial authority of the Holy See [the Apostolic Signature], will be performed in accordance with Brazilian legislation concerning the acceptance of foreign judgments.

Article 13
Secrecy of the priestly office is guaranteed, especially the sacramental confession.

Article 14
The Federal Republic of Brazil declares its commitment to the allocation of spaces for religious purposes to be specified in the instruments of urban planning to be established in the City Master Plans.

Article 15
For ecclesiastical persons, as well as for the assets, income and services related to their essential purpose, there is recognition of the guarantee of tax immunity in accordance with the Brazilian Constitution.
§ 1. For tax purposes, the legal persons of the Catholic Church engaged in non-profit social and educational activities will receive the same treatment and benefits granted to charitable organisations recognised by the Brazilian legal system, including the requirements and obligations required for immunity and exemption purposes.

Article 16
Given the peculiar religious and charitable character of the Catholic Church and its institutions:
I - The relationship between the ordained ministers or believers consecrated by vows and the Dioceses and Religious Institutes or equivalent is of religious nature and therefore, in accordance with the Brazilian labour legislation, does not generate by itself, an employer-employee bond, unless a distortion of the ecclesiastical institution is proven.
II - The tasks of apostolic, pastoral, liturgical, catechetical, assistance for the benefit of humanity and the like may be performed on a voluntary basis, while complying with the Brazilian labour legislation.

Article 17
The Bishops, in the exercise of their pastoral ministry, may invite priests, members of religious institutes and lay people, who have not Brazilian citizenship, to serve in the territory of their dioceses, and ask the Brazilian authorities on their behalf, to grant the visa to perform pastoral activity in Brazil.
§ 1. In consequence of the formal request of the Bishop, according to Brazilian law, a permanent or temporary visa shall be granted, as appropriate, for the reasons explained above.

Article 18
This Agreement may be supplemented by arrangements agreed between the High Contracting Parties.
§ 1. Offices of the Brazilian Government within their powers and the National Conference of Brazilian Bishops, duly authorised by the Holy See, may conclude agreements on specific issues to implement this Agreement.

Article 19
Any differences in the application or interpretation of this Agreement shall be settled by direct diplomatic negotiations.

Article 20
This Agreement shall enter into force upon exchange of instruments of ratification, subject to the existing legal situation and established under Decree No. 119-A of 7 January 1890 and the Agreement between the Federal Republic of Brazil and the Holy See on Religious Assistance to the Armed Forces of 23 October 1989.

Concluded in the Vatican City, on the 13th day of November 2008 in two originals, in Portuguese and Italian, both texts being equally authentic.

[The Brazilian Government does not mention the signatories, but according to Vatican sources, they were Archbishop Dominique Mamberti, Vatican Secretary for Relations with States, and Celso Amorim, Brazil's Foreign Minister.]

Concordat Watch - Brazil

Questions about the concordat

Many of the innocent-sounding phrases in the latest Brazilian concordat have, when implemented, caused problems in other countries, including Italy, Germany, Slovakia, Poland and Hungary, the Dominican Republic and Malta.

This concordat can be used to muzzle free speech
Article 2 guarantees “the public exercise of [Church] activities”, yet Article 7 prohibits showing any “disrespect” for them. The Church is allowed to bring its activities outside the circle of the faithful and into the public square, yet brooks no criticism by civil society in that square. Italy also has a treaty, made by Mussolini with the Vatican, which stifles free speech. Last year, under this treaty, an Italian comedienne found herself facing the possibility of five years in prison for “offending the honour of the sacred and inviolable person” of Benedict XVI.

It imposes foreign law on Brazil
Article 3 introduces the Vatican's Canon (Church) Law into Brazil. There is the caveat that this mustn't conflict with Brazilian law and the Constitution. However, this puts the onus on Brazilians to prove that some regulation of Canon Law goes against Brazilian legal system. The concordat stipulates only that Canon Law be used in Catholic institutions, but because this includes Church-run social services, Church law can be effectively imposed on both their lay employees and their clients. In Germany this is a widespread problem, particularly acute for anyone, like gays or the divorced, whose private life does not accord with Canon Law.

Brazil pays, the Church decides
Article 5 puts Church social service organisations in a position of legal and therefore financial parity with state-run social services. In other words, the Brazilian taxpayer is expected to subsidise these Church-run social services. In Slovakia, this has meant no family planning services in Catholic hospitals. In March 2009 Brazilians saw what this could mean, when the Church tried to prevent the abortion judged by doctors as necessary to save the life of a tiny nine-year-old rape victim carrying twins.


Poor Brazilians must pay for Church opulence
Article 6 obliges the state to “continue to cooperate to protect, value and promote” Church property. However, calling it “cultural heritage” doesn't alter the fact that the state is to pay for the conservation and maintenance of Catholic places of worship: to repair the roof and fix the plumbing. The Church is extremely wealthy and well able to afford to keep up its own property. People in the favelas could well use that money to repair their own houses.

The concordat lets Catechism into state schools
Article 11 permits Catholic religion to be taught to children as “a regular discipline in normal hours of state schools in primary education”. That's the way it started in Poland, as well, twenty years ago. A Polish bishop has admitted that the first step was to get catechism into state schools and taught on a voluntary basis, next to have it funded by the taxpayer and then to make it count on the grade average. Now a further step has been announced. Beginning in autumn 2009 for many students, even non-Catholics, catechism will, in practice, be compulsory.

First steps towards “concordat marriage”?
Article 12 even appears to lay the groundwork for the eventual introduction of “concordat marriage”, that is to say, marriage according to Canon (Church) Law, with no possibility of divorce. This was ensured by the concordats of Mussolini's Italy and Franco's Spain, and even by the concordats in force today in the Dominican Republic (Article 16) and Malta (which has a whole concordat concerning marriage). According to the Brazilian concordat, “Brazilian legislation concerning the acceptance of foreign judgments” is to apply, not to foreign criminals, but to Brazilians who have married within their own country! This opens the door to enforcing the rulings of the Apostolic Signature, the Vatican's “marriage court” of last instance, which, of course, follows Canon Law. But why should Brazilian citizens let their marriages be governed by the laws of a foreign country?

And certainly not by a country whose courts have been found wanting. In 2001 the European Court of Human Rights ruled that the procedures of the Rota Romana, the ecclesiastical appeals court responsible for marriage-annulment applications, failed to reach the standards required for a fair trial. Why should Brazilian citizens be subject to foreign courts that do not follow the modern standards of evidence demanded in Brazil?


Church tax immunity will rob the Brazilian treasury
Article 15 guarantees the Church the tax status of a charity. However, other countries show how this can be exploited to enable the Church to undercut commercial competitors. In Italy erecting a little shrine within the walls of a cinema, holiday resort, shop, restaurant or hotel allows the Catholic Church to escape paying 90% of what it owes to the state for its commercial activities.

Two for one?
Article 20 states that the latest concordat is to be “established under” the previous concordat — the earlier one for the military that was never ratified by Congress. This appears to be an attempt to quietly bring in two concordats at once. This is important, as the cautious military concordat contained the possibility of being cancelled, while Article 19 of the latest one makes this virtually impossible. It requires that any differences regarding the concordat “are to be settled by direct diplomatic negotiations”. However, that means there's no appeal to the Constitution and no redress through Brazilian courts. Brazil would have to negotiate with the Vatican and seek its agreement. One country actually tried this. In 2006 a Hungarian cabinet minister went to the Vatican to try to renegotiate the Finance Concordat. He found that no one had time to talk to him. Concordats are for keeps.
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Concordat Watch - Brazil

How to sign a concordat under the table

It requires intrigue to get a concordat accepted by a secular state like Brazil: a secret signing at the Vatican, an implicit agreement with the Evangelical press to keep quiet, and the bishops' lobbying to avoid a congressional debate. An appendix contains four hard-to-find official and semi-official Church accounts of the signing of this concordat.
 Brazil's President Luiz (“Lula”) da Silva wants to get important legislation passed before his term of office ends on 1 January 2011. He hopes to alter Brazil's energy laws to funnel more revenue from the undeveloped oil fields to government coffers and set up funds to improve education and health care. However, for this he needs the co-operation of key politicians who happen to be friends of the Vatican. This appears to have set the stage for concordat intrigue that followed.
In May 2007 the Pope flew to Brazil, the world's most populous Roman Catholic country. However, his half-hour meeting with its President was billed as a frostily “polite” visit, with Brazil rebuffing the Pope's attempts to get a concordat, on the grounds that it was a “secular state”. [1]
 What no one knew at the time was that work on the concordat text had begun back in 1991 and that formal negotiations had been going on since 2006. [2]
Secret signing in the Vatican, 13 November 2008
The year after the papal trip, the Brazilian President paid a return visit to the Vatican, widely assumed to be just a courtesy call “on the way to Washington”. [3] Pope Benedict received Lula in his ornate private library, greeting him at the door with, “Thank you very much for the agreement that will be signed.” [4] After an exchange of gifts he was ushered into the Treaty Room for the signing of the unpublished concordat.

This script was a repeat of the Vatican's signing of the Portuguese concordat. In 2004 the Prime Minister of Portugal had also chosen to quietly sign the document out of sight of his countrymen. [5]


“News embargo or self-censorship?” After the surprise signing the “High Contracting Parties” did their best to avoid any challenge by simply keeping the story out of the media. A Government press release made discreet mention of an “administrative agreement”. [6]
There were hugs, there were blessings, there were pictures but no statement on what was dealt with between the President and the Pontiff. [7]
Even the powerful Evangelical media avoided the issue. The Universal Church of the Kingdom of God, for instance, is a Pentecostal sect which preaches “prosperity theology”, depicting its  tithes as a sound investment. “The experience in Brazil shows that [this] church sees control of the media as crucial in its campaign to win over more tithe-paying followers.” [8] The Government has complied, granting the church licences for 23 TV stations, 40 radio stations, and registration for at least 19 companies under the names of church members and bishops. [9] Brazil's Evangelical media empire was not about to rock the boat. [10] As a result, the Portuguese text, though published on the Brazilian Government website, elicited little public discussion.
But how to keep it out of other languages? The Vatican came up with a clever idea: it announced that “it would not publish the text of the agreement until it had been ratified by the Brazilian parliament”. [11] This was literally true: the Vatican wasn't going to publish it, but it misled people into thinking that it wasn't going to be published by anyone else, either. Two weeks after the signing, the British Catholic weekly, The Tablet, interpreted the Vatican statement to mean that “the agreement has not yet been published”. [12] Therefore, even though it was there in Portuguese on the Government website, it remained invisible to the outside world: people who believe that something's unpublished are not going to search for it.
Ratified after changing the rules, 7 October 2009
However, as word of the concordat spread within Brazil, various methods were tried to cut off the debate. In early May Celso Amorim, the Minister of External Relations who had signed the concordat on behalf of Brazil, called for a change in the way treaties were approved. No longer, he argued, should they be required to be ratified by Congress. The approval of a committee from his own department would be quite sufficient. [13] Another politician claimed that having the concordat discussed by a Government committee in a closed meeting, rather than in Congress, would be “more focussed than a public hearing” [14]. By the end of May this legislative change had been formally proposed, one deputy noting with approval that it would provide “greater efficiency and speed” than a Congressional debate. [15] In mid-June, yet another move was made to try to rush the concordat through. That's when the Brazilian bishops' Conference sent one of their members to visit the President of Congress and ask his help in pushing through the concordat as fast as possible [16] — a direct attempt to interfere with the democratic process.

Notes
During its passage into law the concordat, officially called an "Acordo", was known by still other names. When it was sent from the executive to the legislature it was a Mensagem do Congresso Nacional, MSC-134/2009, and as soon as it had been approved by the foreign relations committee, it became a Projeto de Decreto Legislativo tramitando na Câmara dos Deputados, PDC-1736/2009. The ratification was Projeto de Decreto Legislativo 716/09.
1. “Pope meets Lula, asks youth to evangelize (2nd Roundup)”, DPA, 11 May 2007. http://www.monstersandcritics.com/news/americas/news/article_1302981.php/

2. “Bento XVI recebe presidente Lula”, Rádio Vaticano, 13 November 2008. http://www.ejcneves.com.br/noticias.php?id=149
3. Roseli Fischmann, “Omissão da mídia sobre o acordo com o Vaticano”, Observatório da Imprensa, 18 November 2008. http://observatorio.ultimosegundo.ig.com.br/artigos.asp?cod=512JDB002
4. Cindy Wooden, “Brazil and the Vatican sign agreement on Church status”, Catholic News service, 13 November 2008. Curiously this story is not archived n the CNS site and is only now obtainable from repostings on Catholic blogs.
http://freeforumzone.leonardo.it/lofi/NEWS-ABOUT-BENEDICT-/D354494-151.html
5. “Address of John Paul II to H.E. Mr José Manuel Durão Barroso Prime Minister of Portugal”, 18 May 2004 [on the day the concordat was signed]. http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/john_paul_ii/speeches/2004/may/documents/hf_jp-ii_spe_20040518_prime-minister-portugal_en.html
6. Alberto Dines, Editorial: “Barriga coletiva ou autocensura?” (“News embargo or self-censorship?”), Observatório da Imprensa, 25 November 2008. http://www.observatoriodaimprensa.com.br/oinatv.asp?tv_edi=488
7. Alberto Dines, Observatorio da Impressa, 17 February 2009.
http://observatorio.ultimosegundo.ig.com.br/artigos.asp?cod=525IMQ005

8. “Church makes airwaves”, BBC, 3 August, 2000. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/864623.stm

9. “Evangelical Media Empire in Brazil Goes to Court to Intimidate Press”, Brazzil Magazine, 31 January 2008. http://www.brazzilmag.com/content/view/9096/
10. Alberto Dines, Editorial, Observatório da Imprensa, 25 November 2008. http://www.observatoriodaimprensa.com.br/oinatv.asp?tv_edi=488

11. “Vatican signs agreement over Church status in Brazil”, Total Catholic, 14 November 2008. http://www.totalcatholic.com/tc/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&catid=20:vatican-news&id=366:vatican-signs-agreement-over-church-status-in-brazil&Itemid=46
12. Francis McDonagh, “Brazil: New accord between church and state”, The Tablet, 21 November 2008.
13. “Ministro pede apoio para mudança em regra de acordo internacional” (“Minister calls for change in general regulations for international agreements”, 6 May 2009. http://www2.camara.gov.br/homeagencia/materias.html?pk=134188
14. [Congressional] Deputy Damião Feliciano quoted in “Comissão de Relações Exteriores debate Acordo Brasil e Santa-Sé” (“Committee on External Relations debates Agreement between Brazil and Holy See”), 6 May 2009. http://www2.camara.gov.br/comissoes/credn/comissao-de-relacoes-exteriores-debate-acordo
15. [Congressional] Deputy Leonardo Picciani quoted in “CCJ aprova análise conclusiva para atos internacionais” (“CCJ [Commission of the Constitution, Citizenship and Justice] approves conclusive analysis for international acts”, 27 May 2009. http://www2.camara.gov.br/homeagencia/materias.html?pk=%20122425
16. “CNBB pede rapidez na aprovação do Estatuto da Igreja Católica” (“CNBB [Brazilian Bishops' Conference] asks to speed the adoption of the Statute of the Catholic Church”), 16 June 2009. http://www2.camara.gov.br/internet/homeagencia/materias.html?pk=136211


Appendix
Below are three accounts from the day of the signing, 13 November 2008, by the Vatican Information Service and the Catholic News Service. They are only available online now in Catholic blogs. A fourth account from a week later, 21 November 2008, is from the British Catholic weekly, The Tablet. It is not available online.
Notice how the official announcement below tries to place the mysterious "agreement" in the context of the bishops' conference in Brazil the year before. This item from the Vatican Information Service (VIS) can still be found online in a blog: http://freeforumzone.leonardo.it/discussione.aspx?idd=354494&p=226
VATICAN CITY, 13 NOV 2008 (VIS) - The Holy See Press Office today released the following declaration:
This morning Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva, president of the Federative Republic of Brazil, was received in audience by His Holiness Benedict XVI. The president subsequently went on the meet Cardinal Secretary of State Tarcisio Bertone S.D.B., who was accompanied by Archbishop Dominique Mamberti, secretary for Relations with States.
The cordial meeting provided an opportunity for a fruitful exchange of opinions on matters concerning the current situation in the region and in the world.
Attention then turned to certain aspects of the situation in Brazil, and in particular to social policies that seek to improve the living conditions of the many people who live in circumstances of distress and marginalisation, and to favour the fundamental role of the family in the struggle against violence and social decay.
The discussions also emphasised collaboration between Church and State with a view to promoting moral values and the common good, not only in the country but particularly in favour of Africa.
In this context, having recalled the Holy Father's visit to Brazil in May 2007 for the Fifth General Conference of the Episcopate of Latin America and the Caribbean in Aparecida, satisfaction was expressed at the conclusion of an agreement between the Holy See and Brazil. The agreement was later signed in the course of same visit.
A second communique explains that the new agreement, "which further consolidates the traditional bonds of friendship and collaboration between the two parties, consists of a preamble followed by 20 articles regulating various areas including the juridical status of the Catholic Church in Brazil, the recognition of qualifications, religious teaching in State schools, canonical marriage and the fiscal system".
A Catholic News Service story is also now only to be found in a blog: http://freeforumzone.leonardo.it/lofi/NEWS-ABOUT-BENEDICT-/D354494-151.html


A further Catholic News Service story of the same date is also only preserved in blogs such as: http://www.totalcatholic.com/tc/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&catid=20:vatican-news&id=366:vatican-signs-agreement-over-church-status-in-brazil&Itemid=46
and (retitled) at: http://www.cbcpnews.net/?q=node/5847

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Comments:

E. asks:

Why are you so concerned about this agreement?

DS replies:

There is always an ulterior motive to what the pope does.

Here it is ( the way I see it) :

#1. First and foremost: Money - hands in the golden pot of this booming economy ( read the text of the concordat)

#2. Even greater control of yet another country ( he has control of all countries via the U.N. anyway, but this is much more direct, as he is embedded in the army , in education, etc. etc.)

#3. The third question is the one I am asking in this post: is the pope using Lula as an agent for his schemes? (We already know he is using Shimon Peres). And what ARE his schemes? We know he is very, very much concerned with what is happening in Israel, as he wants Eretz Yisrael and Yerushalayim for HIMSELF. So what is his role here? How is he relating to Ahmedinajad? Is HE the one promising all those goodies to Hitler-Ahmed? What is the trade-off? After all now he has his hand in the cookie jar of Brazil, big time.

Remember the role of the Catholic Church during WW II, the 1933 CONCORDAT WITH GERMANY AND HITLER, and how the Catholic Church was directly responsible for the murder of untold number of Jews.

http://israeltruthtimes.blogspot.com/2009/05/here-is-article-about-hitler.html 

http://israeltruthtimes.blogspot.com/2009/05/very-important-re-german-concordat-and.html

Considering that nuclear war with Israel is the topic here, and possible annihilation of the Jewish People, at the eleventh hour, I think it is EXTREMELY RELEVANT to find out what exactly this ultimate wolf in sheep's clothing is concocting against us.

And as always, he does everything he does in the greatest secrecy - or at least he tries to do so: this article, I hope, will be a big blow to his machinations. At the very least, it will be one more exposure of this concordat with Brazil, which he tried to keep hidden away from the Brazilian people and from the world. I hope that Brazilians open their eyes and realize that their country has being hijacked by some very evil people. 

THE LEOPARD DOESN'T CHANGE ITS SPOTS.

 DS  




PS:

I also want to remind you that this visit of Lula to Ahmed happened exactly one year after the pope's visit to Jerusalem, after his meeting with church leaders, and right around the beginning of 'the War against the Jews" via Obama and the churches. Relevant? Knowing the way this pope works, his extreme concern for anniversaries, dates, etc., I would say: YES.


More comments:


SHmuel writes:

The so called "agreement" between the two islamics and the Brazilian is so transparent it does not need special illumination for anyone to see through it.
Brazil and for that matter Argentina are old nuclear development hands. I would not be surprised if one or both of them have already nuclear weapons.
My late sister in law Sylvia, Z'L, died of very aggressive form of cancer at a very young age while working in on of the Argentinean Nuclear Centers.
In half an hour Zula obtained an agreement from the Ayatollahs while the US and the rest of the world could not do that for a decade. Right. I have some plots of land in the Sombrero Galaxy for sale cheap.
The only thing we must do is to finally neutralize Iran and Islam as a whole, away from WMD's because the insane monsters will use them.
The islamic growth must be checked for good.
Regarding Benedikt...
The Vatican Foreign Services intrigues are second to none.  In this case and on previous ones, money and Jerusalem control drives them. 
Interdicting that is vital for our security in Eretz Israel.


DS replies:

SHmuel. Thanks for this info; but see also this:

http://zenit.org/article-29168?l=english

http://chiesa.espresso.repubblica.it/articolo/94562?eng=y 


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cl%C3%A1udio_Hummes

Coincidence? I don't think so. The Pentacostal movement, associated with SUPPORT FOR ISRAEL, is growing in leaps and bounds in Brazil. The pope sent his GERMAN-Brazilian, Franciscan INQUISITOR Cardinal Claudio Hummes as an envoy to Brasilia THIS WEEK, May 13- 16 , as a COUNTERWEIGHT! This week , simultaneously, the pope flew to Portugal, which shares a common language with Brazil ( he also mentioned Brazil while there). 

There are lots of hints that the pope HAS BEEN INTENSELY INVOLVED WITH BRAZIL THIS PAST WEEK - AND NOT FOR THE BENEFIT OF ISRAEL!!! 


So if you are asking me whether the visit of Lula to Iran has anything to do with it, I'd say: OF COURSE!!!

 The question is this: did the Church go to Brazil this week to LOBBY Lula, or was Lula's visit PLANNED AND ORGANIZED BY ROME?? Who is the prime mover of the alliance between Brazil and the Ayatollahs: is it Rome, or is it Lula himself, with Rome only as a lobbyist and as an adjunct??

Maybe our readers, in particular Eric Phelps and Barry, might have an answer to that question.


http://israeltruthtimes.blogspot.com/2009/05/attention-urgentso-this-is-what-pope.html

http://israeltruthtimes.blogspot.com/2009/05/mask-is-off-our-true-enemies-and-our.html

http://israeltruthtimes.blogspot.com/2009/06/obamas-full-speech-in-cairo-judge-for_04.html

I have lots of posts on the blog about all the events surrounding Benedikt's visit to Israel last year, and subsequent extreme damage inflicted to us worldwide. Search by key words, you will find a wealth of information here.



E. writes:

I am am not sure that this specific agreement is bad for the Jews.  The agenda of the eugenicists/globalists who are behind all this evil is to forcefully push same sex marriage so that they could in the short run continue to expand the fertility industry (surrogacy) create children without an identity and then eventually go forward to cloning. 
In order to go forward with this plan they must destroy the traditional family stucture and everyone who is interested in keeping it.
Everywhere in the world they are imposing laws forcing different cultures to promote ssm despite their objection to this.  Also in Israel the recent talk (I can send you various things about it the "human rights talk" about ssm is getting full voume)
One of the places in the world where there has been totalitarian legislation forcing people to promote this agenda is
Brazil where people can get arrested if they offend a homosexual.  The Pope obviously is against it so he got this agreement.
I am not sure that he and us have opposing interest in that battle,
Obviously he wants Eretz Yisrael
But it is more complicated
DS replies:
E, 
Thank you for this input. Very interesting, thank you.

We might agree on certain things; but when it comes to the PHYSICAL survival of the Jewish People. specially in Israel, we definitely are NOT on the same page. THEY WANT US DEAD. WE WANT TO LIVE! Period.



UPDATE:

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/137601


See also this comment, by Jack:

People on my mother-in-law’s bridge on line group found out she lives in Israel and several asked when Israel is going to bomb Iran’s nukes.

Question: When did Israel replace America as the superpower?

Jack

From: M

What will the community agitator do now?  Does this make WW-III inevitable?  Only time will tell.  Chamberlain must be smirking in his grave, Churchill turning over.


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What a fiasco. That's the first word that comes to mind watching Mahmoud Ahmadinejad raise his arms yesterday with the leaders of Turkey and Brazil to celebrate a new atomic pact that instantly made irrelevant 16 months of President Obama's "diplomacy." The deal is a political coup for Tehran and possibly delivers the coup de grace to the West's half-hearted efforts to stop Iran from acquiring a nuclear bomb.

Full credit for this debacle goes to the Obama Administration and its hapless diplomatic strategy. Last October, nine months into its engagement with Tehran, the White House concocted a plan to transfer some of Iran's uranium stock abroad for enrichment. If the West couldn't stop Iran's program, the thinking was that maybe this scheme would delay it. The Iranians played coy, then refused to accept the offer.

But Mr. Obama doesn't take no for an answer from rogue regimes, and so he kept the offer on the table. As the U.S. finally seemed ready to go to the U.N. Security Council for more sanctions, the Iranians chose yesterday to accept the deal on their own limited terms while enlisting the Brazilians and Turks as enablers and political shields. "Diplomacy emerged victorious today," declared Brazil's President Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva, turning Mr. Obama's own most important foreign-policy principle against him.
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