Judea Capta; Rome then, and Rome today...
UPDATE AND COMMENTS:
1.SHmuel said:
Einstein's definition of insanity applies.
Repeating the same processes and using the same materials expecting different results is.... see above.
None of the actors has changed and the plans remain the same... ergo... Your conclusions are also my conclusions.
2.Update:
IDF Plans to Evict Jews from Outposts in One Day
Reported: 08:40 AM - Jul/21/09
(IsraelNN.com) The IDF is prepared for the possibility of forcibly evicting Jews in one day from 23 expanded communities within Judea and Samaria, the Israeli daily Haaretz reports. According to the report, the plan was conceived by the defense system with the knowledge of Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu.
Last week, a large-scale exercise of security forces took place. The joint exercise included border police, police forces, and IDF soldiers in order to simulate evicting Jews from the expanded communities.
3.IDF Sources Deny Report of Simultaneous Eviction
Reported: 09:25 AM - Jul/21/09
(IsraelNN.com) Sources in the Israel Defense Forces claimed on Tuesday that they don't know about a plan reported in Haaretz for the simultaneous forcible eviction of 1,200 Jews from 23 communities within Judea and Samaria that the United States wants uprooted.
The report followed a large-scale eviction simulation involving soldiers, border police, and police forces. According to the Haaretz report, the program is being conducted in coordination with Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu. While the military is keeping quiet about the timing of such an operation, it is believed that it would be carried out either this Saturday night or next, immediately following the end of Shabbat, based on past experience.
Israel to evacuate all outposts in a day: report
Reuters
Tuesday, July 21, 2009 3:07 AM
JERUSALEM (Reuters) - Israel plans to remove in a single day all 23 unauthorized settler outposts slated for evacuation in the occupied West Bank, a move that would meet a long-standing pledge to Washington, a newspaper said on Tuesday.
The report in Haaretz gave no date for removing the outposts, where some of the most militant settlers in the West Bank live, but said the military held an exercise last week to prepare for their evacuation.
Haaretz, a left-leaning newspaper, said the military was preparing to "forcibly evacuate 23 illegal outposts in one day. The plan was formulated by the security establishment, with the knowledge of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu."
Israel has come under increasing diplomatic pressure from its main U.S. ally to halt all settlement building in the West Bank to spur peace efforts with the Palestinians.
Netanyahu has so far refused to commit to a total freeze, in the most serious rift between Israel and the United States, its main ally, in a decade.
In May, Deputy Defense Minister Matan Vilnai said the removal of the outposts, often a cluster of caravans on isolated hilltops built without government authorization, had become a "central issue" for the Netanyahu's administration.
"The report sounds totally illusionary," said settler leader Pinhas Wallerstein. But he told Army Radio that settlers could be "partners to painful agreements, although not as a result of American pressure."
Sorry to say, but this is typical KAPO language - [DS]; "the Jews will WILLINGLY GO TO THEIR DEATH", LEHAVDIL.
COMMITMENT
The Defense Ministry says it will not reveal the locations of all the outposts to maintain an element of surprise but they include those built after March 2001, a group that Israel committed to remove during the administration of former U.S. president George W. Bush.
The evacuation is expected to be met with resistance from the settlers. Wallerstein said that some 8,000 people live at the outposts.
On Monday, Israeli settlers on horseback set fire to at least 1,500 Palestinian-owned olive trees in the West Bank and others stoned cars, a Palestinian security official said. [OH YEAH? IS THIS ANOTHER BLOOD LIBEL SET TO MAKE EVACUATION MORE PALATABLE TO THE ISRAELI PUBLIC? DS]
Israeli media reports said the rampage was a response by settlers to the army's destruction hours earlier of a caravan at a settlement outpost.
The Haaretz report was written by one of its most respected columnists, Yoel Marcus, who was also the first to disclose the plans of former Prime Minister Ariel Sharon to withdraw soldiers and settlers from the Gaza Strip, a plan that came to fruition in 2005.
(Writing by Ori Lewis; Editing by Louise Ireland)
DS comments:
AGAIN, DURING THE NINE DAYS - IF TRUE - AND BY JEWS;
WHAT THEY CALL OUTPOSTS COMPRISES A POPULATION OF 8,000 PEOPLE, WHICH IS A HUGE NUMBER, THE SAME NUMBER AS THE EVACUATION FROM GUSH KATIF.
Wikipedia:
Gush Katif (Hebrew: גוש קטיף, lit. Harvest Bloc) was a bloc of 17 Israeli settlements in the southern Gaza strip. In August 2005, the 8,000 residents of Gush Katif were forcefully evicted from the area and their homes demolished as part of Israel's unilateral disengagement plan.
AGAIN, PINCHAS WALLERSTEIN APPEARS PROMINENTLY. REMEMBER, WALLERSTEIN IS A FIRST CLASS TRAITOR, just watch the videos MERAGLIM 1-4, which appear on the sidebar of the blog, and you will see his major, major role in the Gush Katif evacuations...
AND AGAIN, THE NUMBER 8,000 FIGURES PROMINENTLY. IN THE EIGHTH MONTH ( AUGUST), 8,000 JEWS WILL BE EVACUATED; WILL THIS BE ON THE 8TH OF AV? OR ON THE 28th of the seventh month, which is the night of Saturday to Sunday of this week, as predicted by settlers themselves?
Based on what I know of the use of SORCERY AND GEMATRIA BY THE VATICAN AND ITS REPRESENTATIVES, WHICH IN THIS CASE INCLUDE THE DEFENSE ESTABLISHMENT OF ISRAEL, I EXPECT THE EVENT TO OCCUR EITHER on the night of the 28th of July, or on the EIGHT of AV.
Don't quote me on this, but in the past, the number 8 and its multiples, either in the decimal system, or otherwise, has figured prominently in actions taken against the Jewish People by the pope and his representatives - in this case OBAMA, Bibi, Barak, Pinchas Wallerstein, and whoever else helps the traitors.
4."Netanyahu's spokesmen would neither confirm or deny he had asked Pinchas Wallerstein, 60, director-general of the settlers' YESHA council, to serve as the prime minister's adviser on settlement affairs, Reuters said.
Aliza Herbst, a YESHA spokeswoman, said Wallerstein "has definitely been offered the job," and has been filling out forms for a vetting process by Israel's attorney-general, and that it wasn't clear how long that may take."
It seems that the more he betrays Jews, the higher he gets in the government, ISN'T THIS THE WAY IT WENT FOR MANY, MANY PEOPLE WITH CUSHY JOBS IN ISRAEL?
DS continues;
IS THIS THE ULTIMATE ANTISEMITIC MANIFESTATION OF THIS UNJEWISH GOVERNMENT; CYNICALLY PARTICIPATING IN EVICTIONS OF JEWS FROM ERETZ YISRAEL DURING THIS PAINFUL PERIOD OF THE NINE DAYS UNTIL TISHA BE'AV?
IF TRUE, WHOEVER IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS DECISION SHOULD BE PROSECUTED IN A TORAH BETH DIN FOR CRIMES AGAINST THE JEWISH PEOPLE, and in an sympathetic foreign court, FOR RACISM, AND FOR HATE CRIMES against the Jewish religion.
SHmuel comments again:
Rabbi Dov wrote:
See the post;" THANK YOU BARRY....", earlier today
1.SHmuel said:
Einstein's definition of insanity applies.
Repeating the same processes and using the same materials expecting different results is.... see above.
None of the actors has changed and the plans remain the same... ergo... Your conclusions are also my conclusions.
2.Update:
IDF Plans to Evict Jews from Outposts in One Day
Reported: 08:40 AM - Jul/21/09
(IsraelNN.com) The IDF is prepared for the possibility of forcibly evicting Jews in one day from 23 expanded communities within Judea and Samaria, the Israeli daily Haaretz reports. According to the report, the plan was conceived by the defense system with the knowledge of Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu.
Last week, a large-scale exercise of security forces took place. The joint exercise included border police, police forces, and IDF soldiers in order to simulate evicting Jews from the expanded communities.
3.IDF Sources Deny Report of Simultaneous Eviction
Reported: 09:25 AM - Jul/21/09
(IsraelNN.com) Sources in the Israel Defense Forces claimed on Tuesday that they don't know about a plan reported in Haaretz for the simultaneous forcible eviction of 1,200 Jews from 23 communities within Judea and Samaria that the United States wants uprooted.
The report followed a large-scale eviction simulation involving soldiers, border police, and police forces. According to the Haaretz report, the program is being conducted in coordination with Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu. While the military is keeping quiet about the timing of such an operation, it is believed that it would be carried out either this Saturday night or next, immediately following the end of Shabbat, based on past experience.
Israel to evacuate all outposts in a day: report
Reuters
Tuesday, July 21, 2009 3:07 AM
JERUSALEM (Reuters) - Israel plans to remove in a single day all 23 unauthorized settler outposts slated for evacuation in the occupied West Bank, a move that would meet a long-standing pledge to Washington, a newspaper said on Tuesday.
The report in Haaretz gave no date for removing the outposts, where some of the most militant settlers in the West Bank live, but said the military held an exercise last week to prepare for their evacuation.
Haaretz, a left-leaning newspaper, said the military was preparing to "forcibly evacuate 23 illegal outposts in one day. The plan was formulated by the security establishment, with the knowledge of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu."
Israel has come under increasing diplomatic pressure from its main U.S. ally to halt all settlement building in the West Bank to spur peace efforts with the Palestinians.
Netanyahu has so far refused to commit to a total freeze, in the most serious rift between Israel and the United States, its main ally, in a decade.
In May, Deputy Defense Minister Matan Vilnai said the removal of the outposts, often a cluster of caravans on isolated hilltops built without government authorization, had become a "central issue" for the Netanyahu's administration.
"The report sounds totally illusionary," said settler leader Pinhas Wallerstein. But he told Army Radio that settlers could be "partners to painful agreements, although not as a result of American pressure."
Sorry to say, but this is typical KAPO language - [DS]; "the Jews will WILLINGLY GO TO THEIR DEATH", LEHAVDIL.
COMMITMENT
The Defense Ministry says it will not reveal the locations of all the outposts to maintain an element of surprise but they include those built after March 2001, a group that Israel committed to remove during the administration of former U.S. president George W. Bush.
The evacuation is expected to be met with resistance from the settlers. Wallerstein said that some 8,000 people live at the outposts.
On Monday, Israeli settlers on horseback set fire to at least 1,500 Palestinian-owned olive trees in the West Bank and others stoned cars, a Palestinian security official said. [OH YEAH? IS THIS ANOTHER BLOOD LIBEL SET TO MAKE EVACUATION MORE PALATABLE TO THE ISRAELI PUBLIC? DS]
Israeli media reports said the rampage was a response by settlers to the army's destruction hours earlier of a caravan at a settlement outpost.
The Haaretz report was written by one of its most respected columnists, Yoel Marcus, who was also the first to disclose the plans of former Prime Minister Ariel Sharon to withdraw soldiers and settlers from the Gaza Strip, a plan that came to fruition in 2005.
(Writing by Ori Lewis; Editing by Louise Ireland)
DS comments:
AGAIN, DURING THE NINE DAYS - IF TRUE - AND BY JEWS;
WHAT THEY CALL OUTPOSTS COMPRISES A POPULATION OF 8,000 PEOPLE, WHICH IS A HUGE NUMBER, THE SAME NUMBER AS THE EVACUATION FROM GUSH KATIF.
Wikipedia:
Gush Katif (Hebrew: גוש קטיף, lit. Harvest Bloc) was a bloc of 17 Israeli settlements in the southern Gaza strip. In August 2005, the 8,000 residents of Gush Katif were forcefully evicted from the area and their homes demolished as part of Israel's unilateral disengagement plan.
AGAIN, PINCHAS WALLERSTEIN APPEARS PROMINENTLY. REMEMBER, WALLERSTEIN IS A FIRST CLASS TRAITOR, just watch the videos MERAGLIM 1-4, which appear on the sidebar of the blog, and you will see his major, major role in the Gush Katif evacuations...
AND AGAIN, THE NUMBER 8,000 FIGURES PROMINENTLY. IN THE EIGHTH MONTH ( AUGUST), 8,000 JEWS WILL BE EVACUATED; WILL THIS BE ON THE 8TH OF AV? OR ON THE 28th of the seventh month, which is the night of Saturday to Sunday of this week, as predicted by settlers themselves?
Based on what I know of the use of SORCERY AND GEMATRIA BY THE VATICAN AND ITS REPRESENTATIVES, WHICH IN THIS CASE INCLUDE THE DEFENSE ESTABLISHMENT OF ISRAEL, I EXPECT THE EVENT TO OCCUR EITHER on the night of the 28th of July, or on the EIGHT of AV.
Don't quote me on this, but in the past, the number 8 and its multiples, either in the decimal system, or otherwise, has figured prominently in actions taken against the Jewish People by the pope and his representatives - in this case OBAMA, Bibi, Barak, Pinchas Wallerstein, and whoever else helps the traitors.
4."Netanyahu's spokesmen would neither confirm or deny he had asked Pinchas Wallerstein, 60, director-general of the settlers' YESHA council, to serve as the prime minister's adviser on settlement affairs, Reuters said.
Aliza Herbst, a YESHA spokeswoman, said Wallerstein "has definitely been offered the job," and has been filling out forms for a vetting process by Israel's attorney-general, and that it wasn't clear how long that may take."
It seems that the more he betrays Jews, the higher he gets in the government, ISN'T THIS THE WAY IT WENT FOR MANY, MANY PEOPLE WITH CUSHY JOBS IN ISRAEL?
DS continues;
IS THIS THE ULTIMATE ANTISEMITIC MANIFESTATION OF THIS UNJEWISH GOVERNMENT; CYNICALLY PARTICIPATING IN EVICTIONS OF JEWS FROM ERETZ YISRAEL DURING THIS PAINFUL PERIOD OF THE NINE DAYS UNTIL TISHA BE'AV?
IF TRUE, WHOEVER IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS DECISION SHOULD BE PROSECUTED IN A TORAH BETH DIN FOR CRIMES AGAINST THE JEWISH PEOPLE, and in an sympathetic foreign court, FOR RACISM, AND FOR HATE CRIMES against the Jewish religion.
SHmuel comments again:
Oh please!
Outcry? What good would that do? May as well do some "vigil", dance with the "yassam" or enjoy being smashed by the border police murderers, and "protest".
NOTHING has changed so the outcome is written.
May I add that Mr. Begin is a minister with netanyahu?
Even he is quiet.
Lets talk about something else since the unJews will do exactly what they did in GK. And so will do the JEWS.
I believe they can start filming and bleating and also to plan for a "museum"...
We simply seem to be unfit to be FREE and self reliant.
Rabbi Dov wrote:
Do not wait for the Rabbis, the majority is bribed. Even the well known extremists are also bribed.
The Charedim will not do anything they understand that we are in Galut Erev Rav.
The authorities hate the Charedim double then the settlers. And the police will be triple tough to the Charedim
See the post;" THANK YOU BARRY....", earlier today
MORE COMMENTS:
Aryeh writes:
> MK Ben-Ari says that "...
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> the dati community is not as well equipped to fight for its rights as the chareidi community."
It is interesting how he is so totally right and yet totally wrong. He is wrong because the Dati community is large, well organized and has access to both large amounts of money and committed activists. As a community it has the ability to shut down the country and force the Government to its will. However, they are incapable of using their enormous power because their leadership is either corrupted by the Government and are no more than stooges or they are addicted to the worship of the Golden Calf of Zion and can not bring themselves to fight it. That is what allowed the Sharon Pogrom to succeed. That is what will allow the Netanyahu Pogrom to succeed.
Until there are those in the Dati community who are willing to stand up and clearly say that the State of Israel is NOT holy, is NOT beyond reproach and is NOT to be blindly obeyed, there will be one destruction after another. If Ben-Ari wants to change the situation let him be the one to do so. Did he become a MK for the secure salary or to work for the public?
MK Ben-Ari Regarding the State Judicial System
http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/article.php?p=37181
July 20, 2009
Opposition MK (Ichud HaLeumi) Dr. Michael Ben-Ari is quoted as telling Kikar news that he is not a big believer in the objectivity of the judicial system, suggesting the government probe the matter. His comments were made in connection to the arrest of the alleged Munchausen mom, with the MK stating the arrest of the suspect was unnecessary.
Ben-Ari added with confidence that if the suspect was a member of the Druse or Ethiopian community, we can be certain the remand of the suspect would have been continuously renewed. He admits he hasn’t a clue if the allegations against the mother are based in fact, but adds if that is the case, then the problem must be addressed and this does not include the her incarceration, but treatment.
The MK added there is an important message learned from the chareidim, a message that may anger many, that they cover for one another and at times bury acts that require attention, opting to deal with them within the family. He rejected someone harming children and then benefiting from the protection of the social umbrella, stating he is not saying this is the case here. While he admires the communal responsibility exhibited in the chareidi community, he rejects this in the case where the welfare of children may be compromised.
When asked about the state’s demands that the mother undergo psychiatric evaluation he explained that he understands the chareidi response since the community has been “pinned in the corner”, carefully adding that while he does not justify the violence, he questions why she was not taken for such an evaluation against her will, which is done at times, and why the arrest and just what danger does the mother pose to the general public justifying her incarceration.
Ben-Ari feels what was seen in the streets of chareidi areas of the capital last week was not an organized effort but spontaneous displays of anger from a community that feels “up against the wall”. He drew a comparison to the resistance at Amona, which he said resulted from the expulsion from Gush Katif and N. Shomron which preceded it. Here too he feels this may be the result of social pressure. He stressed that authorities cannot control these emotions, adding the dati community is not as well equipped to fight for its rights as the chareidi community.
(Yechiel Spira – YWN Israel)
SHmuel says:
GIGO applies.
[Garbage In... Garbage Out.
If the raw material used as leadership is GARBAGE the OUTCOME is Garbage.]
What is that piece of trash doing in Yesha yet?
Apparently he was tolerated to stay there and those that did that must face the music.
Sorry, but blaming only an obvious agent working for the unJews is irrelevant.
The "vigil" and phone call folk has neither grown up or learnt a thing.
And NONE of the elected folk representing what one may say is us are doing a thing either.
Starting with Dr. Begin and all the way to Dr. Eldad and Dr. Landau and the rest.
So they will destroy JEWISH HOMES and people EXACTLY as they did in GK and using the same degenerates as they used then.
Pathetic.
SHmuel writes:
Daisy,
We said it hundreds of times.
THE SYSTEM is a putrid carcass and that means all that the "israeli" parasitic strain represents.
Pinchas W or any other agent of the system will do exactly the same over and over again.
Unless the JEWISH PEOPLE sweep aside the said system completely, not a shred left for sample,
DESTRUCTION will follow DESTRUCTION.
The remaining Land will be SOLD to their cronies.
The JEWISH Icons plowed under.
People will be assaulted and even murdered.
Particularly CHILDREN, women and infirm or old people
Netanyahu? Why would anyone on his or her sane mind would vote for those creeps? They are
all cut out of the same mold of YENTZ.
Netanyahu will destroy the communities just as Sharon with his help did and more to come.
REGRETFULLY: The JEWISH residents will at least sabotage anyone like us that want to take
down that system and promote for FREE ELECTIONS for a NEW SYSTEM of government.
And of course WITHOUT the israelitist filth.
The purported planned attack on IRAN IS AN EXCUSE. The military is worth just as much
it showed last week again at the Lebanese border. ZILCH!
Any SHOW against IRAN will be a moronic farce only. An "israeli media" photo show, nothing more.
An excuse to attack JEWISH COMMUNITIES.
How to stop that?
Balls and grit.
I fail to see why there is any difference from where do the military or paramilitary formations
come to attack JEWISH people or property.
By Biblical injunction such attackers must be addressed as enemies w/o consideration or holds barred.
Battle of San Lorenzo comes to mind.
Aryeh writes:
Aryeh writes:
Looks like someone is finally waking up.
Yesha Flyers Call to Use Hareidi Tactics
Reported: 12:53 PM - Jul/21/09
(IsraelNN.com) Political activists circulated flyers in Judea and Samaria Monday night with the caption “Let’s Learn from the Hareidis and Win the Struggle.”
The flyer explained that “in Israel, only those who turn over tables are victorious,” adding that “it is time to understand that nothing can be won with love.”
Jack says:
Boqer tov, Yisrael!
There is still time to learn to use boleadoras.
UPDATE:
BLABBER, BLABBER, BLABBER BY right-wing MK's; BUT WHAT WILL THEY DO??
MKs Weigh In on Simultaneous Expulsions
Reported: 12:18 PM - Jul/21/09
(IsraelNN.com) A number of pro-Land of Israel members of Knesset voice their opposition Tuesay morning to a plan reported in Haaretz, under which security forces would carry out simultaneous evictions of Jews from 23 communities in Judea and Samaria. The plan is being coordinated with Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu, according to the report.
National Union MK Aryeh Eldad told Army Radio that such an eviction is liable to lead to bloodshed and civil strife and won't get the prime minister the results he wants. The National Union's Michael Ben-Ari said that Netanyahu was joining the ranks of the enemies and destroyers of Jewish settlement in the area, and inviting 23 incidents similar to the violence at Amona, where hundreds were injured, including Eldad.
MK Tzipi Hotobeli (Likud) said that the transfer of Jews from certain communities in Judea and Samaria must be done with their agreement and input. She added that such action should not be taken outside the framework of a comprehensive program to permit construction in the region. The Likud's Danny Danon, echoed those comments and said, "I don't believe that a Likud government headed by Netanyahu would lend its hand to a mass evacuation of Jewish settlers.
Update;
Aryeh writes:
This is truly baffling. Has she done Teshuvah or what? I would have thought that she is one of those left-wing voters seeking to be appeased.
‘Outposts Can't be Destroyed Without Legal Process'
Reported: 21:30 PM - Jul/21/09
(IsraelNN.com) Lawyer Talia Sasson, who wrote the governmental report on unauthorized outposts under the Olmert administration, said Tuesday that reports that the IDF is preparing to destroy 23 outposts in one night are not true. She said that any process to remove outposts would be preceded by a long legal process.
Sasson said the report was a tactic of Defense Minister Ehud Barak to appease left-wing voters. She said any evacuations would be preceded by hearings in both the Civil Administration and most probably also in the Supreme Court.
DS replied:
how about DISINFORMATION?
Aryeh countered:
possible
Update:
Defense Ministry Delays Evacuations to Allow Talks
Reported: 09:14 AM - Jul/23/09
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(IsraelNN.com) The Defense Ministry said it is pushing off planned evacuations of start up communities in Judea and Samaria (Yesha) until after the summer vacation, a senior defense official told NRG. After recent investigations by the department indicated growing opposition to the evacuation, Defense Minister Ehud Barak decided on the delay to allow for talks with Yesha leaders, he said.
“The whole issue of evacuations is making progress,” he said, crediting efforts on both sides to successfully negotiate solutions. “We want to show that there is another way besides forced evacuations. But if negotiations fail, then we will have to use force to evacuate the areas.”
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