tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6632148178430811066.post5837399770812088241..comments2024-03-04T10:51:38.498+02:00Comments on ISRAEL TRUTH TIMES: GUANTANAMO ISRAEL PART IIDShttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09994156495571982528noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6632148178430811066.post-56016424334500516722015-12-26T18:59:12.254+02:002015-12-26T18:59:12.254+02:00This comment has been removed by the author.DShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09994156495571982528noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6632148178430811066.post-36806171478405451992015-12-25T16:12:25.869+02:002015-12-25T16:12:25.869+02:00This comment has been removed by the author.Yisraelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02721443282570038286noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6632148178430811066.post-18356137726330346182015-12-25T16:07:45.301+02:002015-12-25T16:07:45.301+02:00After Shabbat. It's beginning here in Israel!
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It's beginning here in Israel!<br /><br />Shabbat Shalom.<br /><br />DSDShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09994156495571982528noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6632148178430811066.post-77785041660990906902015-12-25T15:21:05.943+02:002015-12-25T15:21:05.943+02:00This comment has been removed by the author.Yisraelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02721443282570038286noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6632148178430811066.post-58846914394617750592015-12-25T14:41:53.967+02:002015-12-25T14:41:53.967+02:00This comment has been removed by the author.DShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09994156495571982528noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6632148178430811066.post-7149668748038429812015-12-25T13:21:52.060+02:002015-12-25T13:21:52.060+02:00This comment has been removed by the author.Yisraelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02721443282570038286noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6632148178430811066.post-10857245570694188402015-12-25T11:14:47.773+02:002015-12-25T11:14:47.773+02:00I hear you, Yisrael, but don't agree with you...I hear you, Yisrael, but don't agree with you. It is a known fact that the Left hates religious Jews a lot more than they hate Arabs. Instead they are typically "merciful to the cruel and cruel to the merciful". Antisemitism is very deeply ingrained in the Erev Rav, while they constantly try to ingratiate themselves to Edom and Yishmael, whom they love with great love. So your theory doesn't necessarily hold. Plus don't forget that the intelligence agencies are an international body under direction of the Vatican, having the CIA, British intelligence agencies, etc, as partners. The Jewish section is NOT under direction of the Israeli police, but of an international organizations. And they are under strict orders to internationalize Jerusalem and divide the Land of Israel. That is their goal. Torah and Torah Jews are obstacles to their goal and they will stop at nothing, including Inquisition techniques, torture, to reach it. Not to mention the ritualistic aspect of burning Jews, which they demonstrated equally well during the Inquisition, the Holocaust with the crematoria, etc. <br /><br />So I don't agree with you, Yisrael, based on all of the above. Their cruel instincts might be unleashed here and there against arabs, but the focus of their hatred is Am Yisrael and Torah.DShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09994156495571982528noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6632148178430811066.post-72729930845861445652015-12-25T09:22:50.237+02:002015-12-25T09:22:50.237+02:00This comment has been removed by the author.Yisraelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02721443282570038286noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6632148178430811066.post-75034747733349980872015-12-24T22:37:01.251+02:002015-12-24T22:37:01.251+02:00Thank you, Danile, for your excellent comment. We ...Thank you, Danile, for your excellent comment. We need more people like you, who understand the issues. <br /><br />Spread the word! And welcome to Israel. Not the state, the Land.DShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09994156495571982528noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6632148178430811066.post-21245902672710626552015-12-24T22:20:41.386+02:002015-12-24T22:20:41.386+02:00Thank you for the link. I'm waiting for your t...Thank you for the link. I'm waiting for your take on the wedding video.Neshamahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06326762185596512130noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6632148178430811066.post-28303365009161551762015-12-24T22:20:03.185+02:002015-12-24T22:20:03.185+02:00I'm new here so perhaps I'm projecting my ...I'm new here so perhaps I'm projecting my American experience onto Israel, but in America we have a concept called innocence until guilt is proven. The idea is that police make arrests on the basis of probable cause and the courts take over from there. Police have a tendency to see guilt in everything. Some policemen will blame the ocean tide on beach sand. Judges (and in America juries) strive to be impartial and to render judgment through weighing of facts, testimony, evidence, and arguments made by prosecuting attorneys and defense attorneys. Each side has a chance to speak. Forgive me for being pedantic, but it's not clear to me that such mechanisms are in place in Israel so I feel that I actually need to explain the concepts.<br /><br />As far as I can tell outside the veil of gag orders and secrecy, the defendants in the Duma arson case have not had their day in court, another American phrase. Yet, they are being subject to something else that is banned from by the American constitution - cruel and unusual punishment. That's something we are not supposed to do even to the guilty.<br />Certainly, the American justice system falls short of these goals on a regular basis. However, the President and his cabinet members would never brag about it. They might cover it up, they might look away, but they'd never say, Oh yes, we are torturing these citizens because we just know that they are guilty. How we know? The police told us.<br />One of the reasons I moved to Israel is because it seemed to me that the American system is crumbling. I wanted to be part of a real democracy again and that is how the State of Israel was sold to me. Yet suddenly, my appreciation and yearning for my birth country has grown immensely.<br /><br />The Israeli cabinet has their little rationale of course. They are dealing with terrorists, one said. They are a threat to the existence of the State. The Jewish Hamas said another.<br />I see three teenage boys and an isolated incident. In the USA, we'd get them a psychiatrist, give them their day in court, and send them to jail if a jury deemed them guilty. Then we'd get them another psychiatrist and hope they get better and get away from whoever has confused them and lead them on this sad path. It's hard to believe that these three teenage boys are a threat to the mighty IDF.<br /><br />We have another expression in America. When your only tool is a hammer, you tend to see everything as a nail. I understand that the State of Israel regularly contends with real life terrorists of the worst sort. And the security apparatus and leaders have developed certain attitudes and methods of dealing with it. However, authentic leaders need a mix of tools, each to be applied to different situations. Unless we are facing epidemic terrorism by Jewish settlers, the hammer is not the right tool for this situation. We need something else, like a court system, with rules, rights, impartiality, and maybe even a little compassion. These things are sort of fundamental to democracies. Israel claims to be the only democracy in the Mideast, a claim I have come to view with genuine suspicion.Danilenoreply@blogger.com