MY GOD, I am afraid they went there to SIGN THE AGREEMENT EARLY, after they found out WE KNOW. WHO WENT? Can we find out WHO WERE THESE FOREIGN MINISTRY OFFICIALS? LAST DAY OF SERVICE?

Professor Hillel Weiss alerted me to this story tonight, I had missed it, as I was busy:

THINK ABOUT IT: I THINK THIS IS ANOTHER ONE OF THEIR HUGE LIES.

by the way, they also lied about Shimon Peres: they said it was a one day visit, while the czech papers said he went for 2 days. That is also TODAY, the same day THIS DELEGATION WENT TO THE VATICAN.

On the invitation of the President of the Czech Republic Václav Klaus, His Excellency Shimon Peres arrives Monday, March 30, 2009 for a two-day state visit to the Czech Republic.

Jerusalem Post: Peres would shorten his visit to Prague in order to return to Israel for the presentation of Netanyahu's government at the Knesset on Tuesday.

WAS PERES PRESENT? DID HE GO DIRECTLY FROM THE CZECH REPUBLIC TO THE KNESSET? DID HE MAKE IT ON TIME? DID HE STOP IN ROME?

ANYBODY CAN FIND OUT THE DETAILS??

DID SHIMON PERES's TRIP INCLUDE ROME ON THE WAY? DID HE STOP AT THE VATICAN ON THE WAY BACK, TO PARTICIPATE IN THE SIGNING OF THE AGREEMENTS????

I AM ALMOST 99% SURE THAT THE REASON FOR THEIR VISIT THERE IS NOT TO "PREPARE" THE VISIT OF THE POPE, BUT TO SIGN THE AGREEMENT.

THINK ABOUT IT:

LAST DAY OF THEIR BEING IN OFFICE. THEY KNEW THAT BY 5:00 THEY WOULD BE OUT.

Simon Peres said he wanted to attend at 5:00 PM.in Jerusalem

WHY DID THEY DO IT AT 5:00 PM: to give him a chance to come back on time? DID HE? WAS HE THERE?

SO THE LETTER OF RAV STEIN & others SIMPLY ALERTED THEM. THE NEW MINISTERS DIDN'T GET THE LETTER, ONLY THE OLD ONES, SO QUICKLY THEY LEFT FOR THE VATICAN TO SIGN THE DOCUMENTS BEFORE THE END OF THEIR TENURE IN THE KNESSET.

I am almost sure this is what happened: because of the letter of the Sanhedrin, they were alerted - the letter was addressed to Shimon Peres,-



 and so they RUSHED TO SIGN THE DOCUMENT.

I THINK THIS HAS TO BE DEALT WITH TOMORROW MORNING FIRST THING WITH THE FOREIGN MINISTRY; LIEBERMAN ETC. DO THEY EVEN KNOW WHAT IS HAPPENING BEHIND THEIR BACKS? THIS AGREEMENT, IF HE WAS SIGNED, HAS TO BE ANNULLED IMMEDIATELY BY A BET DIN. A VALID BET DIN.

WHO WENT? WHICH MINISTERS: WHO CAN FIND OUT?

DID ANY OF THE FOLLOWING PEOPLE GO:


AARON ABRAMOVITCH
MORDECHAI LEWY,
SHMUEL BEN SHMUEL
ODED BROOK
MOSHE GOLAN
RONEN GIL-OR
BAHIJ MANSOUR
YAEL WEINER
ELIAV BENJAMIN?

all these people are the ones involved in the negotiations of the agreement, specially the highlighted ones, if it is a signatory session.






20:56 , 03.31.09

Print Breaking News click here to enlarge text click here to reduce text				Ahead of pope's visit: Israeli mission leaves for Vatican An Israeli delegation of police officers and Foreign Ministry officials left for the Vatican Tuesday, ahead of Pope Benedict XVI planned visit to Israel.   The delegation will meet with Vatican officials in order to make the final arrangement for the pope's visit in May. (Efrat Weiss)   Back

INTERVIEW WITH TAMAR YONAH OF A7 this morning! Please listen, and pass it around, far and wide; thank you. And the topic is.....: below

The upcoming visit of the Pope to Israel this May, has some people worried. Are there designs to relinquish Jewish sovereignty in Israel's capital, Jerusalem, by the Church? Dr. Daisy Stern of Israel Truth Times has done extensive research and is working with the Sanhedrin to expose what she says is an attempt, with various Israeli leaders' cooperation, to hand over parts of Jerusalem to the Vatican.

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Radio/News.aspx/820

It will only be available for download for a week, so if you want to keep this audio interview, make sure to DOWNLOAD it ( arrow facing down on the little buttons).

Hope you like it, and it clarifies the issues for you.

DS

PERFECT CRIME: THE VATICAN'S PLOT TO ROB AM YISRAEL OF JERUSALEM ( The Secret Machinations of the Vatican, Part II, 2009)

 PERFECT CRIME:
THE VATICAN'S PLOT
TO ROB AM YISRAEL OF JERUSALEM

"THE SECRET MACHINATIONS OF THE VATICAN AND ITS ALLIES IN ISRAEL";  PART II - 2009

by Daisy J. Stern, MD

Copyright, all rights reserved.

March 22, 2009

B"H

PREFACE

Quotes:

"My rebbe once said: everyone thinks of Esav as a barbarian in loin cloth carrying a club a la caveman,  a bloodthirsty monster... but really Esav was able to cleverly disguise his evil in the cloak of respectability: he was a cultured and well-mannered rogue; the perfect depiction is of a proper British lord, smooth and polite,  ever the image of civility and proper etiquette, the perfect gentleman one never suspects to be a sinister, fire breathing dragon...and therefore one never sees the knife coming in to stab you in the back until it is much too late."

Anonymous


"In his sixteenth century treatise entitled, "The Prince," Niccolo Machiavelli wrote those words advising his prince of the "virtues" he must exercise in ruling his kingdom:

"even though on the inside he is able to scheme, he should appear to him who sees and hears him altogether merciful, faithful, humane, upright and religious."

(Michael Franzese, Newsmax)



Summary:

In this paper I describe the history of the secret agreements between Israel and the Vatican, how the Vatican manipulated and deceived the Jews into entering into these negotiations, how it interfered with the political process in Israel in order to gain sovereignty over Land in Israel it considers belongs to the Church; how these secret deals went on behind the back of the Jewish People and are about to be finalized before the visit of Benedict XVI to Israel;  the consequences of finalizing the agreement -  internationalization of Jerusalem,  abandonment of Jewish sovereignty over its Divine inheritance to the Catholic Church, and permanent establishment of the Holy German Empire with the pope at its helm in Jerusalem; as well as the consequences of refusing to sign the final papers - worldwide, raging anti-Semitism, and loss of diplomatic relations with the Vatican.

 I also urge the Jewish People to force the Israeli government to REFUSE TO SIGN the papers,  leave the lands of the Diaspora urgently, and come to Israel before all hell breaks loose for Jews all over the world.

1. INTRODUCTION

Back in 2006, I wrote a twelve page essay called  "THE SECRET MACHINATIONS OF THE VATICAN AND ITS ALLIES IN ISRAEL, 2006", about the Vatican and the traitors among us, and  the Catholic Church's attempt to deprive the Jewish People of its rightful inheritance and historical homeland, Eretz Yisrael, - in particular the desire to snatch away our 3000 year old capital, Jerusalem. Even though I had gathered quite a bit of information for my essay then, I am afraid the total picture escaped me at the time. Now, however, after a lot more reading, investigation ,and in-depth analysis, I can with certainty share some shocking conclusions that are not obvious at first glance, and which most serious writers about this topic have apparently missed as well.

The way I arrived at these conclusions is by carefully checking the TIMELINE of various historical developments reported since 1990. The sources for these events are very disparate, and so, unless one goes and searches very carefully , the threads linking these events are not at all evident. Once one connects the dots, however, the picture that starts to emerge is quite clear, and very alarming, to say the least.

In order to really understand the total picture, make sure to read the article just mentioned, THE SECRET MACHINATIONS OF THE VATICAN AND ITS ALLIES IN ISRAEL, 2006: it will give you essential information, and a background on the players in this saga. I will not go over those details again, as time is of the essence.

The article can be found on my blog,  ISRAEL TRUTH TIMES, at the links:

http://israeltruthtimes.blogspot.com/

http://israeltruthtimes.blogspot.com/2009/02/secret-machinations-of-vatican-and-its.html

(there are two small typographical errors, where I wrote 1003 instead of 1993, and marked 1.2.2.  instead of 1.2.3.)

So let me begin, but not before thanking the unwitting contributors to this paper, who are listed in the extensive bibliography at the end of this text.

Thank you to all of you, even the ones who certainly would have preferred NOT to contribute to this article!



2. HOW IT ALL BEGAN


Since the time of the Crusades, the Vatican had entrusted the CUSTODY of the HOLY LAND to the Franciscan Order in Jerusalem. Their function, essentially, consisted of helping the local Catholic population, as well as of watching over the properties the Church considered hers.

 Now of course, let us not forget HOW those properties came about to belong to the Church in the first place: after the SACKING OF JERUSALEM BY ROME, which happened by  PURE FORCE , BRUTALITY, AND UNSPEAKABLE HORRORS inflicted on the JEWISH POPULATION OF ISRAEL,  the likes of which history has scant comparison for, AND AFTER ROBBING THE JEWISH PEOPLE OF ALL ITS POSSESSIONS, - the depiction of which is found to this day on the ARCH OF TITUS IN ROME, - and following  the subsequent desolation of Judea, Samaria and all of the Land of Israel, various rulers assumed ownership of the Land, and felt free to trade in it as though it belonged to them, which of course it did not. STOLEN PROPERTY CANNOT BE TRADED AT WILL. TITLE TO STOLEN PROPERTY SOLD BY A THIEF IS INVALID AND ILLEGAL NO MATTER HOW YOU LOOK AT IT. For example, take Madoff's investors: even though they unwittingly, innocently and unknowingly came to possess stolen goods, they nevertheless have to return the loot. So much cannot be stated of the Catholic Church, which knew perfectly well  that the goods and real estate in Jerusalem , Judea, the Galilee, etc, were STOLEN PROPERTY, yet still claimed, and claims, ownership for it all even after 2000 years . ESAV WILL NOT WILLINGLY RETURN THE BLESSING OF ERETZ YISRAEL TO JACOB. REMEMBER, ROME IS ESAV - and I would venture to add, ROME HAS PROVEN BY ITS BEHAVIOR THAT IT IS AMALEK AS WELL.

In addition, let us not forget the brutality and massacres inflicted by the Crusaders on the local Jewish population.

Still, to simplify things , let's say that the Franciscans were responsible for watching over the properties claimed by the Church as its own in the Holy Land, Eretz Yisrael.

Now AFTER THE DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE OF ISRAEL IN 1948, the Church started worrying about its possessions. Specially since 1967 and the RETURN OF AM ISRAEL TO ITS SACRED INHERITANCE, in particular to HAR HABAYIT AND ALL OF JERUSALEM, the Vatican became more and more concerned: not only was  JEWISH SOVEREIGNTY over Jerusalem A SLAP IN THE FACE OF CATHOLICISM, the Vatican was also worried about ownership and political sovereignty, with just reason; so it devised a very detailed, sly and elaborate plan to recoup its sovereignty over Jerusalem and the rest of Israel. Not only that, but it decided that JERUSALEM HAD TO BE INTERNATIONALIZED. In addition to that, the ancient dreams of revival of the Holy Roman Empire Of Charlemagne with its seat in Jerusalem never died, as a matter of fact, are alive as ever in this pope's mind. TO SUPPLANT JUDAISM AND MAKE THE POPE THE SUPREME RELIGIOUS AND TEMPORAL POWER OF THE RENEWED HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE IS THE GOAL. For this , I will refer you to the end of this essay, which has a lot of links, quotes, and information. Be ready for some long and good reading!

How did Rome go about doing this?

This is where deception comes in big time:

On the one hand, the Church, with its prelates, bishops, cardinals, popes, and its CANON LAW, all of a sudden became a big DEVOTEE OF INTERNATIONAL LAW AND INTERNATIONAL AGREEMENTS. Imagine for a minute a CHIEF RABBI who, instead of delving into  HALACHAH, all of a sudden  CLAIMS SECULAR LAW as the supreme rule of the land: wouldn't you think something is awfully fishy here? Of course, it is.

And how is that fishy in the pope's case?

Because, as the Custodian of the Holy Land claims in a recent article, THE WHOLE THING IS NOTHING BUT A SHAM, A TOOL FOR THE VATICAN TO OBTAIN, VIA INTERNATIONAL LAW, WHAT IT CANNOT OBTAIN OTHERWISE.

In addition, the Church, this ever combative and  dictatorial political entity, responsible for the killing and murder of countless MILLIONS OF JEWS, PROTESTANTS, and other UNDESIRABLE persons, suddenly becomes THE VOICE OF LOVE, PEACE AND REASON:

WE LOVE EVERYBODY, EVERYBODY IS OUR FRIEND, WE HAVE NO ENEMIES, ALL WE WANT IS PEACEFUL RESOLUTION OF INTERNATIONAL CONFLICTS, USING INTERNATIONAL LAW AND U.N. RESOLUTIONS, WE SHUN FUNDAMENTALISM, WE EMBRACE ECUMENISM.

THE WHOLE THING IS  A CON JOB by a very sly and deceitful entity, designed to ENSNARE UNSUSPECTING JEWS, RABBIS, AND THE ISRAELI GOVERNMENT INTO RELEASING ERETZ YISRAEL TO THE VATICAN. It is similar to the Fable de la Fontaine, Le CORBEAU ET LE RENARD:

http://fr.wikisource.org/wiki/Le_Corbeau_et_le_Renard

Le Corbeau et le Renard

Maître Corbeau, sur un arbre perché,
Tenait en son bec un fromage.
Maître Renard, par l'odeur alléché,
Lui tint à peu près ce langage :
« Hé ! bonjour, Monsieur du Corbeau.
Que vous êtes joli ! que vous me semblez beau !
Sans mentir, si votre ramage
Se rapporte à votre plumage,
Vous êtes le Phénix des hôtes de ces bois. »
À ces mots le Corbeau ne se sent pas de joie :
Et pour montrer sa belle voix,
Il ouvre un large bec, laisse tomber sa proie.
Le Renard s'en saisit, et dit : « Mon bon Monsieur,
Apprenez que tout flatteur
Vit aux dépens de celui qui l'écoute.
Cette leçon vaut bien un fromage, sans doute. »
Le Corbeau honteux et confus,
Jura, mais un peu tard, qu'on ne l'y prendrait plus.

I hope you understand French.


 UNFORTUNATELY THE JEWS FELL FOR the deception.

So let's see  what the PLOT is all about. Once we know the PLOT OF THE FOX -("le renard") , i.e. the VATICAN, LET'S NOT ALLOW THE CHEESE, ("le fromage") , i.e. JERUSALEM, TO FALL FROM OUR COLLECTIVE BEAK.




3.THE PLOT

Until the creation of the State of Israel in 1948, the Catholic Church , in 2000 years of torture, antisemitism, Inquisitions, Holocaust, pogroms, had never shown the slightest love, concern for, or interest in the Jewish People. On the contrary, according to Catholic theology and doctrine, Jews were singled out for eternal damnation and exile from their Land for the crime of "DEICIDE" , killing "god", and deserved the eternal opprobrium and punishment meted out by the "faithful".

But now, with Church properties in Jewish hands, and the Jews back in at least part of the Holy Land, the Church had to tread carefully: on one hand the theological contradiction was insufferable , on the other hand properties once in Catholic hands were all of a sudden at the mercy of the Jews. So the Church "FOUND RELIGION". In 1965, pope Paul VI drafted the revolutionary Vatican document NOSTRA AETATE,

http://www.vatican.va/archive/hist_councils/ii_vatican_council/documents/vat-ii_decl_19651028_nostra-aetate_en.html

which speaks for itself. Please read it. In short, it advocates tolerance for other religions, in particular other Christian branches, Judaism and Islam. It also recommends DIALOGUE with other religions and understanding, in short, ecumenism, and the rejection of antisemitism as well as the accusation of deicide. You have to understand that this is an absolute tsunami , considering the traditional "DOCTRINE OF THE FAITH" ( which the current pope Benedict XVI, as past CHIEF INQUISITOR, secretly supports despite his denials to the contrary - proof later)

There might have been a true element of remorse among some clergy after the Holocaust, we have to give them credit; still, this new approach has to be seen in the context of subsequent developments. After the Six Day War of 1967 and the unexpected victory of Israel over its enemies, Vatican worry obviously increased dramatically. Already in 1970, a  commission was formed in the Vatican, and a special department created in 1974, with the express goal of reaching out to DIASPORA Jews, cynically playing on Jewish feelings of trauma and devastation from the Holocaust, and offering Jews  rejection of anti-semitism,  a chance for DIALOGUE through the institution of the INTERNATIONAL CATHOLIC JEWISH LIAISON COMMITTEE -ILC, and POSSIBLE RECOGNITION OF THE STATE OF ISRAEL, apparently "for free" at the beginning: THE CHURCH ACTED AS THOUGH IT HAD DONE TESHUVAH, CHANGED ITS SPOTS, AND SUDDENLY  BECOME SAINTLY, WHEN IN FACT THOSE ILC MEETINGS WERE ALL PART OF A CALCULATED MACHIAVELLIAN PLOT.

More and more meetings took place, and the INTRIGUE PROGRESSED in earnest from 1990 on: that is when the plot thickens.

Please read the links provided at the end of the article: you will see that this whole DIALOGUE AND PEACE CHARADE was STRICTLY A CATHOLIC INITIATIVE, the Jews being wooed, wined, and dined, and naïvely believing the claims of the Church delegates in this "interfaith dialogue", except for a few "Jews" such as Edgar Bronfman of the World Jewish Congress, who acted as go-between, meeting the Catholics in the context of DIASPORA/VATICAN RELATIONS, while at the same time interfering in the ISRAELI political process.

EDGAR BRONFMAN is in a league with Yossi Beilin and Shimon Peres: THEY ALL ACTED AS AGENTS FOR THE VATICAN WHILE APPEARING TO WORK FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE JEWS!!!

It is very interesting to watch the progression of the topics discussed during the various meetings taking place : starting with "TESHUVAH" for the Church's role in the Holocaust and before; while discussing easy topics such as common family values; then, AFTER 15 whole years of GAINING JEWISH CONFIDENCE, first approaching the subject of LAND and Church properties in Israel!

In order to fulfill these goals, the Church also actively worked in the international sphere, becoming active in PEACE INITIATIVES, such as the Madrid Conference in 1991 - see the letters the pope wrote to Bush and Gorbachev, the "apparent" organizers of the conference. It is noteworthy that the Vatican, despite claiming to NOT interfere with territorial and political issues, in fact CONSTANTLY INTERFERES and intervenes, through intrigue, letters, pressure on political leaders, etc.

At the same time, in the SUMMER OF 1991 , even BEFORE THE LABOR PARTY WAS IN POWER, and before the Madrid Conference, the Church ALREADY APPROACHED YOSSI BEILIN, via the MESHUMAD ISRAELI FR. DAVID YAEGER, to start negotiations about Jerusalem; according to Yossi Beilin himself, the only thing that REALLY INTERESTED the Church was PROPERTIES, LAND, THINGS, while ISRAEL WANTED RECOGNITION - and while the DIASPORA JEWS WANTED FREEDOM FROM PERSECUTION.

HONESTLY, the Church behaved like a woman MARRYING FOR MONEY!

At any rate, by the time election time came in Israel, the VATICAN ALREADY HAD A WORKING RELATIONSHIP WITH YOSSI BEILIN. Now do you understand the deception involved? Most deceptively, a ILC CONFERENCE TOOK PLACE IN BALTIMORE IN 1992, in which the head of the Jewish delegation, "happened " to be EDGAR BRONFMAN (CFR member) ,  who simultaneously 'happened" to INTERFERE IN THE ISRAELI ELECTIONS, BY ARRANGING MEETINGS BETWEEN YOSSI BEILIN AND ARAFAT'S MEN , TO PROMISE THE PLO SOME SORT OF A STATE IN "Palestine" in EXCHANGE FOR THE ARAB VOTE FOR THE LABOR PARTY IN ISRAEL!  In effect,  BRONFMAN, AS AGENT OF THE VATICAN, and acting as a go-between, ACTIVELY INTERFERED IN THE ISRAELI ELECTION PROCESS AND HELPED ELECT YITSHAK RABIN AND SHIMON PERES! And the whole purpose of this choice was so that the transfer of Jerusalem and other properties to the Church could proceed!

At the same time, cruelly playing on Jewish suffering,  and in the context of "TESHUVAH' for the expulsion from Spain 500 years earlier, at that Baltimore conference  with the DIASPORA JEWS, the Vatican  became more demanding , and for the first time broached the subject of Catholic properties in Israel.

So we see that the Vatican intefered with the Israeli elections, and then USED THE DIASPORA JEWS TO INFLUENCE ISRAEL; also  USED THE CONCERNS OF THE DIASPORA JEWS -ANTISEMITISM , AND THE CONCERN OF THE ISRAELI GOVERNMENT - RECOGNITION OF ISRAEL, AS  BARGAINING CHIPS FOR THE LAND OF ISRAEL!

Right after putting Peres and Beilin in office,  the Church got their cooperation to start the TRANSFER OF CHURCH PROPERTIES TO THE VATICAN. It seems that Rabin just 'happened' to be part of the whole deal; an EXPENDABLE ITEM, an obstacle, for all practical purposes.

That would certainly explain his murder in 1995, for all of those who DON"T BELIEVE the official version of his assassination, and DO BELIEVE THAT PERES WAS BEHIND IT. Peres, in other words, ROME.

Within one month of the election of Rabin and  Peres in June 1992, in July, the Vatican already started ACTIVE NEGOTIATIONS ABOUT CHURCH PROPERTIES -ILLEGAL,, SECRET AND ILLEGITIMATE,- with Yossi Beilin. Now don't forget that Yossi Beilin was Deputy Foreign Minister, and Shimon Peres was the Foreign Minister, so obviously Peres was in on the deal.

It is important to mention that these talks were DONE IN SECRET, AND NOT APPROVED BY THE KNESSET, yet left FOOTPRINTS in the form of DOCUMENTS DRAFTED, albeit with deception, I would even say under duress, and illegally.

What WAS NOT SUPPOSED TO LEAVE a footprint were the PARALLEL TALKS OF SHIMON PERES GOING ON DIRECTLY WITH THE POPE, about Church properties. Those talks took place at the Vatican between Peres and the pope,  or in the form of SECRET hand-delivered LETTERS written BY PERES, or later in 2006, in a letter from OLMERT  HAND -DELIVERED BY PERES DIRECTLY TO THE POPE.

These SECRET CHANNELS that Peres handled are UNACCOUNTED FOR. THEY ARE THE MOST DAMAGING AND ILLEGAL, AND OF COURSE INVALID ONES. In them, according to reliable documents ( see links), Peres promised to the pope the INTERNATIONALIZATION OF JERUSALEM, which is what the "Holy See" ( not holy at all, actually, very criminal and UNHOLY SEE) demands.

As an example; when Shimon Peres went to the Vatican in April 2006, barely a week after Olmert's "election", and while carrying a secret letter to the pope, which was NEVER SHOWN TO THE MEDIA, he had an audience of 40 minutes with the pope, an extraordinary long meeting by pope standards.

While PERES CLAIMED that the meeting showed the interest of the pope in Israel, in fact, MOST OF THE MEETING CONSISTED OF NEGOTIATIONS ABOUT THE CHURCH PROPERTIES IN ISRAEL. This is a typical example of DISHONESTY and DECEIT on the part of this KADIMA MAFIA.

Another OUTRAGEOUS EXAMPLE of Kadima deception is the fact during the "official" channel WORKING GROUP between the Foreign Office of the State of Israel and the Vatican since 2006, the ISRAELI representative FOR THE RELIGIOUS MINISTRY IS A MUSLIM, BAHIJ MANSOUR. Of course the non-Jew will be willing to give away JEWISH PATRIMONY TO THE CHURCH!



4. PROGRESS OF THE NEGOTIATIONS


Very remarkable is the fact that negotiations since December 20, 1993, the date the FUNDAMENTAL AGREEMENT between Israel and the Vatican was signed, were stalled significantly , despite the signing of the LEGAL PERSONALITY AGREEMENT in 1997. For the agreements themselves and definitions, see the links at the end of the article.

Of importance is the fact that a number of very significant issues were left untouched, for obvious reasons: none of the items signed away by Yossi Beilin had any validity according to Israeli law, and accordingly were illegitimate. But the Vatican signed these agreements at the highest levels of government: the Secretary of State is the highest person in Vatican hierarchy after the pope himself. Of course these agreements were designed, by the Vatican, for maximal effect.

The legal personality agreement GAVE AWAY an extremely important RIGHT to the Catholic Church: that of being allowed to SUE in Israeli courts for its properties, something that prior to 1997 was absolutely ILLEGAL in ISRAEL: until then,ONLY THE GOVERNMENT COULD DECIDE WHAT WOULD BECOME OF ISRAELI TERRITORY, and not the CLEARLY BIASED LEFTIST COURT SYSTEM OF ISRAEL, which incidentally also has strong ties to the Vatican, making it the perfect forum for disputes between the Catholic Church and Jewish claims.

David Levy, by signing that document, GAVE AWAY THAT RIGHT.

But since then, negotiations had stalled, the Vatican was clearly losing patience with Israel. Not stranger to interfering with Israeli governance, it appears that it ONCE AGAIN DECIDED TO ACT, when things weren't advancing properly: TIME TO PUT PERES  BACK INTO POWER!

SO here comes KADIMA, and here is WHERE ARIEL SHARON 'S STROKE, and THE NEGLIGENT MISMANAGEMENT OF HIS TREATMENT - take it from a PHYSICIAN!- COMES IN oh, but SO HANDY FOR THE CHURCH; specially CONSIDERING THAT NUNCIO PIETRO SAMBI, AFTER EIGHT AND A HALF YEARS OF FAITHFUL SERVICE IN JERUSALEM, WAS SUDDENLY ORDERED TO BE TRANSFERRED TO THE UNITED STATES ONLY ONE DAY BEFORE SHARON HAS HIS STROKE , RIGHT AFTER HAVING TEA WITH SHIMON PERES - that is according to Barry Chamish; I don't have the proof to that last part of the story.

Just this week, one Arab got 6 years in jail for attempting to poison Jews with a tasteless, colorless powder in Jerusalem: if a STUPID ARAB can do it, WHAT ABOUT THE HIGHLY SOPHISTICATED CATHOLIC CHURCH AND ALL ITS ALLIES IN ISRAEL, I ASK YOU?? And by the way, how would you like to know the most common tasteless, colorless poison used to poison dogs - ( and who knows how many more humans) : how about RAT POISON?

WHAT DO YOU THINK RAT POISON IS: HOW ABOUT COUMADIN, a colorless, tasteless anticoagulant that will cause hemorrhages, that is, BLEEDING, in such interesting body parts as the brain, among others? AND WHAT IF I TOLD YOU THAT COUMADIN IS PRECISELY THE MEDICATION SHARON WAS TREATED WITH WITHOUT SUPERVISION, ( IN ADDITION TO HEPARIN, I WOULD ASSUME, ANOTHER ANTIGOAGULANT ) AND SENT HOME WITH TO THE NEGEV? WHAT DOSAGE WAS HE GIVEN? HOW OFTEN DID THEY DO BLOOD LEVELS, OF BOTH HEPARIN AND COUMADIN, AS REQUIRED BY MEDICAL PROTOCOL? HEPARIN LEVELS SHOULD BE CHECKED A FEW TIMES A DAY, AND COUMADIN DAILY, WHILE DOSAGE IS BEING ADJUSTED: WAS THAT DONE, OR NOT? HOW EASY WOULD IT BE TO GIVE AN EXCESSIVE DOSE OF COUMADIN, AND THEN FAIL TO TEST BLOOD LEVELS TO SEE IF THE DOSAGE IS CORRECT? WHICH DOCTOR IN HIS OR HER RIGHT MIND WOULD START A PATIENT ON COUMADIN WITHOUT CHECKING BLOOD LEVELS??

NOW ARE YOU PUTTING TWO AND TWO TOGETHER, OR DO YOU STILL NEED MY HELP to understand what happened???

OK. So now we are PAST the Sharon era, into KADIMA TIMES, shenanigans and manipulations at the elections level, as everybody recalls, Peres made president after HIGHLY QUESTIONABLE accusations against Moshe Katsav, - who incidentally was NOT ready to give away Har Tzion, and HAD TO GO!!…. and now it's SMOOTH SAILING FOR THE NEGOTIATION AND THE GIVEAWAY OF JERUSALEM. So easy: an ARAB put in charge of giving away Jewish holy places…. why not, so simple, really!

Fast track to 2009: NOBODY HEARS A PEEP about what's  going on: we just find out that BENEDICT XVI is coming for a visit to Israel. ONLY 10 million dollars used to prepare for his visit, among others 6 million NIS, one for every Jew killed in the Holocaust, to RENOVATE CATHOLIC HOLY PLACES. Among others, the CENACLE, which until now had BARE WALLS, because NO PARAPHERNALIA OF IDOL WORSHIP ARE ALLOWED IN A YESHIVA -that is, the Diaspora Yeshiva of Har Tzion. But no worry: RENOVATIONS HAVE ALREADY BEGUN THERE. With other words, the PROPERTIES are being READIED for the pope's arrival, turned into proper Catholic shrines, Jewish or not.

And guess what: THE CONDITION FOR HIS VISIT IS FINALIZATION OF THE AGREEMENT, WITH FINAL  SIGNATURES IN A PLENARY SESSION DUE APRIL 23, according to the VATICAN record, or EREV PESSACH, APRIL 7th, according to ZENIT, a CATHOLIC NEWS AGENCY.

( A plenary session is a session in which ALL HIGHER LEVEL PARTIES SIGN, THE VATICAN AND THE STATE OF ISRAEL). Now of course Olmert's people deny everything, but they have lied non-stop, why should they change now? They have to sign away the deal quickly before NETANYAHU's crew comes in , and finds out IN TOTAL SHOCK the hanky-panky that has been going on under the faithless watch of criminals .

To be signed away:

300 million NIS of BACKTAXES due by the CHURCH to us, the ISRAELI PEOPLE.

But even more ominously: THE CHURCH PROPERTIES THE VATICAN DEMANDS:

HAR TZION

CEASARIA CHURCH

CONVENT AT HEBREW UNIVERSITY

PROPERTIES AROUND THE KINNERET,

ETC.

ETC.

MORE TERRIBLE:

THESE PROPERTIES WILL BECOME EXTRATERRITORIAL TO ISRAEL, IF THE DEAL IS SIGNED. AND THE DEAL IS SUPPOSED TO BE VALID FOREVER, UNCHANGEABLE, PERMANENT, IRREVOCABLE: "A PERPETUITE".

EVEN WORSE:

IF THE REPORT OF PERES'S PROMISE TO THE VATICAN IS TRUE, EAST JERUSALEM IS ABOUT TO BE INTERNATIONALIZED, UNDER AUSPICES OF THE UN..

ALREADY, THE UN IS RULING IN THE OLD CITY, FORBIDDING JEWISH CONSTRUCTION.

NEXT STEP: VATICAN RULE FOREVER IN JERUSALEM UNDER THE POPE, THE UN, AND GERMANY.

We have to understand that the Church is perfectly willing to USE FORCE to IMPOSE ITS WILL, and will USE ANTISEMITISM ALL OVER IF IT DOESN"T GET ITS WAY. OF COURSE, NON-RECOGNITION OF ISRAEL WILL BE A GIVEN. WE WILL BE AT WAR WITH THE WHOLE CATHOLIC WORLD.
ON THE OTHER HAND., WE WILL GAIN THE ETERNAL GRATITUDE OF THE PROTESTANTS, WHO HAVE BEEN BITTERLY PERSECUTED BY THE CHURCH FOR CENTURIES AND DREAD PAPAL RULE.

I THINK WE NEED TO FIGHT FOR OUR PATRIMONY, FORCE THE GOVERNMENT TO REFUSE TO SIGN, AND ALERT EVERY JEW ALIVE TO HURRY AND COME BACK HOME BEFORE ALL HELL BREAKS LOOSE.

THE ALTERNATIVE: LOSE JERUSALEM , HAR HABAYIT, ERETZ YISRAEL, FOREVER.

OUR CHOICE.

5.  THE RUSSIAN CONNECTION

1. In 1989, 1990, Gorbachev was active, responsible for Madrid together with the US, the UN ( that equals Rome), etc. What happened since then I am not sure.
Gorbachev and Peres COOPERATE on a number of issues: however, Gorbachev is not representative for Russia at this time, but there is SYMBOLIC CONTINUATION OF THE SAME SPIRIT: SAME ACTIVITIES: see visit of Gorbachev to the pope in 1989, and of Putin in 2007.

Since 2007, PUTIN AND THE POPE have established very friendly cooperation,, they consider themselves brothers in religion, and are coordinating their activities in the Middle East.

So the recent giving away of the Russian compound to the Russians has to be seen in the context of the Vatican give-away: it is part and parcel of the same plan: THE RULERSHIP OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH, WITH THE HELP OF HER SISTER THE RUSSIAN ORTHODOX CHURCH.

I also see a direct connection between Gorbachev's visit to the Vatican and the subsequent Madrid accords. The Pope acted through Moscow as well as through the US and other channels. See also the letter he wrote to Gorbachev THE DAY BEFORE MADRID .

Daisy J. Stern., MD.
copyright 2009, all rights reserved.

        

 6. ADDENDA

Please see all my links , notes, and bibliography  below.



EVIDENCE OF BETRAYAL AND TREACHERY BY YOSSI BEILIN, SHIMON PERES, AND THE VATICAN.

INTENTION TO GIVE A LARGE PART OF JERUSALEM TO THE CATHOLIC CHURCH, AND INTERNATIONALIZE THE CITY UNDER UN AUSPICES.




I. THE OFFICIAL AGREEMENTS:

1. On the Vatican's side:

A. The Fundamental agreement -1993:

http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/secretariat_state/archivio/documents/rc_seg-st_19931230_santa-sede-israele_en.html

B.The Legal Personality agreement- 1997:

http://philologos.org/bpr/files/Vatican/vs002b.htm

C. The Vatican-PLO agreement - 1993

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Peace/plovatican.html



2. Definitions and important persons ( Vatican):

A.legal person: wikipedia.org/wiki/juristic_person

B. Secretariat of State ( Vatican)

http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/secretariat_state/documents/rc_seg-st_12101998_profile_en.html

C.Dicastery :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dicasteries

D. Prelate:http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/12386b.htm

E.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Kasper

F.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Theological_Commission

 ( as relates to:

http://www.bc.edu/research/cjl/meta-elements/texts/cjrelations/resources/documents/interreligious/joint_communique_01.htm)

G.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Idris_Cassidy

H.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Catholic-Jewish_Liaison_Committee


3. on the Israeli side:

http://www.mfa.gov.il/MFA/MFAArchive/1990_1999/1993/12/Fundamental+Agreement+-+Israel-Holy+See.htm

http://www.mfa.gov.il/MFA/MFAArchive/1990_1999/1997/11/Legal+Personality+Agreement-+State+of+Israel-Holy.htm

http://www.mfa.gov.il/mfa/foreign%20relations/treaties%20and%20agreements/



4.See also, independent agreements made between the HOLY SEE and THE JEWISH COMMUNITY REPRESENTATIVES OF THE DIASPORA.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edgar_Bronfman,_Sr.

Starting June 1991, Peres sends Yossi Beilin to Egypt 4 times to make an agreement with the PLO, promising a "Palestinian" state in exchange for the Arab vote for Rabin and Peres, thus putting Rabin into power.

CFR Edgar Bronfman later boasts of using his influence to secure Rabin's elections, believed to have arranged these meetings.

Summer of 1991, open talks with the Holy See , initiative of Archbishop Montezemolo, with Yossi Beilin

October 12, 1991, Edgar Bronfman becomes head of the World Jewish Congress

Letters on the EVE of the Madrid Conference, October 29, 1991, of the pope to Bush and Gorbachev, IN SPANISH! egging them on- :

http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/john_paul_ii/letters/1991/documents/hf_jp-ii_let_19911029_madrid-bush_sp.html

http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/john_paul_ii/letters/1991/documents/hf_jp-ii_let_19911029_madrid-gorbachov_sp.html

October 30, 1991, Madrid Conference:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madrid_Conference_of_1991

The Madrid Conference was hosted by the government of Spain and co-sponsored by the USA and the USSR [ with the pope in the background!, DS].It convened on October 30, 1991 and lasted for three days. It was an early attempt by the international community to start a peace process through negotiations involving Israel and the Palestinians as well as Arab countries including Syria, Lebanon, and Jordan......



April 1992: On April 1st, the Vatican announces that it favors a Labor victory in the June 1992 elections in Israel

A.This is how the betrayal started : Holy See -Edgar Bronfman -Israeli elections TRIANGLE!

http://www.sidic.org/en/docOnLineView.asp?class=Doc00510 ( May 7th, 1992)

Meeting for the first time in the Western Hemisphere, representatives of the IJCIC and the Holy See's Commission met in Baltimore, Maryland, on May 4-7, 1992. This was the 14th meeting of the International Catholic-Jewish Liaison Committee (ILC). The co-chairs of the ILC are Mr. Edgar Bronfman, President of the World Jewish Congress, and Edward Cardinal Cassidy, President of the Holy See's Commission.

"In the context of the day on which Jews celebrate Yom Ha Atzmauth (Israel's Independence Day, May 7), while recognizing that the question of diplomatic relations between the State of Israel and the Holy See is a matter of competence first and foremost for the Government of the State of Israel and the Vatican Secretariat of State, the Conference participants are conscious of the importance of this question also for Jewish-Catholic relations in general and express hope that significant progress in this regard will soon be achieved.....


...Of particular urgency are joint commitments to democratic principles and opposition to extreme nationalistic movements which threaten democracy. This, the Catholic side noted, was also a major theme and concern of the recent special meeting for Europe of the Synod of Bishops."


http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/judaica/ejud_0002_0011_0_10125.html
..."Relations moved further ahead as a result of a Conference of the ILC in Baltimore in 1992 when the Vatican participants proposed the establishment of joint Catholic-Jewish delegations to appear before international bodies on matters of mutual concern. They also undertook to extend to other countries the initiative of the Italian bishops who had declared that one day a year in their dioceses would be devoted to the study of Judaism and the Jewish people. In the summer of 1992, the Vatican announced the opening of discussions with Israel for the normalization of relations between the two countries toward the establishment of diplomatic ties, which was finally achieved at the end of 1993. (See*Vatican for further developments.)"

ISRAELI ELECTIONS June 23, 1992, barely 6 weeks later! RABIN AND PERES WIN!


B. Joint communique of the ILC, 2001

International Catholic - Jewish Liaison Committee 17th Meeting,New York City, May 1-3, 2001


http://www.bc.edu/research/cjl/meta-elements/texts/cjrelations/resources/documents/interreligious/holysites.htm

http://www.bc.edu/research/cjl/meta-elements/texts/cjrelations/resources/documents/interreligious/joint_communique_01.htm

http://www.bc.edu/research/cjl/meta-elements/texts/cjrelations/resources/documents/interreligious/ilcantisemitism.htm

http://www.bc.edu/research/cjl/meta-elements/texts/center/conferences/Bea_Centre_C-J_Relations_04-05/Fumagalli.htm

http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/pontifical_councils/chrstuni/relations-jews-docs/rc_pc_chrstuni_doc_20010504_new-york-meeting_en.html

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/judaica/ejud_0002_0011_0_10125.html







2. REPORT of other signed agreements and pacts,  but without documents

http://www.thetrumpet.com/index.php?q=6033.4423.0.0

http://www.joelbainerman.com/articles/vatican.asp,    ( Barry Chamish states he was heavily involved in writing his article )  

 

        see also                 http://www.joelbainerman.com/index.asp

http://beyondbabylon.blogspot.com/2006/01/vatican-agenda-by-joel-bainerman.html

http://www.israpundit.com/2008/

http://www.cdn-friends-icej.ca/medigest/june98/backgrnd.html

http://www.rense.com/general6/chamish.htm

http://www.bc.edu/research/cjl/meta-elements/texts/cjrelations/resources/documents/interreligious/joint_communique_01.htm

http://www.bc.edu/research/cjl/meta-elements/texts/cjrelations/resources/documents/interreligious/ilcantisemitism.htm

http://www.bc.edu/research/cjl/meta-elements/texts/center/conferences/Bea_Centre_C-J_Relations_04-05/Fumagalli.htm

http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/pontifical_councils/chrstuni/relations-jews-docs/rc_pc_chrstuni_doc_20010504_new-york-meeting_en.html




3.IMPORTANT HISTORICAL RECORD TO PUT EVERYTHING IN PERSPECTIVE, and do a very detailed TIMELINE:

A.CHRONOLOGY OF THE OSLO PEACE PROCESS, by Ephraim Levy

https://www.synapsenow.com/synapse/news/fullstory_public.cfm?articleid=5276&website=israelfacts.org

B, VATICAN'S ASSASSINS, by Eric Phelps,  invaluable source of historical information about the Vatican, its connection to Hitler, wonderful pictures,etc.; 3 BOOKS.

This is a very short chapter of the book, which quotes , among others, Barry Chamish.

Incidentally, Barry has been an invaluable source of information about the saga. Acknowledgement due to him.

http://www.vaticanassassins.org/pope_mount.htm

C,VATICAN CELEBRATES 80TH YEAR:

http://www.wcr.ab.ca/news/2009/0223/vatican022309.shtml

D. ABOUT GERMAN DESIGNS FOR THE HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE:

http://redmoonrising.com/chamish/Dec05.htm

E. Written by myself after months of research, sources available upon request:

THE SECRET MACHINATIONS OF THE VATICAN AND ITS ALLIES IN ISRAEL, 2006:

http://israeltruthtimes.blogspot.com/2009/02/secret-machinations-of-vatican-and-its.html

(NB: 2 typographical errors noted: Fundamental agreement signed in 1993, not 1003, and the POINTS of the agreement are 1.2.and 3.: my apologies.)

F.http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/judaica/ejud_0002_0011_0_10125.html

Shows clearly how the Vatican sneakily , gradually, dragged Israel into a phony agreement in order to "reclaim"their properties in Israel.

G. excellent summary

http://ezinearticles.com/?Mt.-Zion-Under-Siege---Who-Will-Be-King-of-the-Mountain&id=130771

http://www.davidbenariel.org/israel/vatican-linked-assassination-yitzhak-rabin.htm

http://www.davidbenariel.org/jerusalem/un-resolution-181-blueprint-beast.htm






4. Report by Yossi Beilin on the history of the agreements:

http://www.30giorni.it/us/articolo.asp?id=2324


5.  More historical information, and  TIMELINE

On the Israeli side, always go to Foreign Ministry affairs, and search., For example:

http://www.mfa.gov.il/MFA/About+the+Ministry/MFA+Spokesman/2007/Plenary%20meeting%20in%20Jerusalem%20between%20Israeli%20and%20Holy%20See%20delegations%2013

On the Catholic side:

AsiaNews:; all the way from 2004 until now, one can see the progression - and progress of the talks.


http://www.asianews.it/index.php?l=en&art=895
http://www.asianews.it/index.php?l=en&art=1088
http://www.asianews.it/index.php?l=en&art=1110
http://www.asianews.it/index.php?l=en&art=1413
http://www.asianews.it/index.php?l=en&art=1453
http://www.asianews.it/index.php?l=en&art=1454
http://www.asianews.it/index.php?l=en&art=1497
VATICAN - ISRAEL - DOSSIER
Fr. Jaeger: some issues with the government difficult but resolvable


Jerusalem (AsiaNews) - Problems with visas, taxation of religious institutions, restitution of the Cenacle: Fr. David Maria Jaeger, an Israeli Franciscan, shared his views with AsiaNews, in his capacity as a jurist and expert on Church/State relations in Israel, on the central topics of an interview with Avraham Poraz, Israeli Interior Minister.
For Minister Poraz, problem with visas are "all but resolved", thanks to involvement from the Holy See which would vouch for visa applicants.  But, for Fr. Jaeger, "In principle, from a juridical point of view, that of the rule of law, all norms regarding the issuance of entry visas and of residence permits must not be kept secret, but be officially published, so that applicants can refer to them in submitting their applications, in evaluating decisions and in considering any kind of recourse.  It is clear, that in the middle term, the question will have to be the subject of negotiations and agreement, in accordance with the Fundamental Agreement between the Holy See and the state of Israel.
"The question has been on the bilateral permanent Commission's agenda since 1994, and it would be reasonable to presume that the Commission will deal with it in the next phase of talks."
Tax exemptions for religious institutions is another open question.  The minister explained that places of worship are exempt from taxes, but not any commercial or hotel activities that may be connected to them.  All such places should, in any case, pay for municipal services such as cleaning, water, etc...
"As far as is known, the Church has never demanded anything other than the recognition of vested rights; in other words, that its legal and tax conditions not worsen with respect to those under previous regimes.  It is a matter of reconfirming a law that came into force in 1938, as well as legal and tax conditions that, by  UN order, were to be maintained following the creation of the new state.  However, just as discussions were taking place to record the contents of that law in the agreement with the Catholic Church (that is, in 2002), the Government drastically reduced the exemptions that were to be guaranteed to the Church.  This was certainly not the purpose of the law,  but one of its effects, which the agreement should now correct.  Personally, I am optimistic about the outcome of negotiations, because I cannot imagine that, right after establishing official relations at the highest level, the Government of Israel would want to go down in the history of Church/State relations in the Holy Land for having worsened the legal and tax conditions of the Catholic Church on its national territory...It would be unthinkable, and that is why I trust the Government to conclude that it must make amends for the undesired effect of recent legislation, and that it is in the national interest to respect vested rights and the will of international institutions.  Besides, the Catholic Church has never demanded any sort of exemption for purely commercial activities owned by the Church, if there are any in Israel, nor for the quantifiable consumption of utilities such as water or electricity, which are paid by everyone in proportion to actual consumption."
The minister also mentioned the return of the Cenacle and claims that the problem today "is a disagreement between Churches, on who is to take possession of it" and that the Government cannot enter into this disagreement.
"It's astonishing to hear talk of controversies between the Christian Churches," Fr. Jaeger affirms.  "They have simply never existed, as far as the Franciscan Cenacle complex is concerned.  Unlike the Nativity in Bethlehem and the Holy Sepulchre in Jerusalem, the Cenacle has never been "shared" or contested....its ownership was properly acquired by the sovereigns of Naples, Robert and Sancha, and, with the backing of Pope Clement VI, was donated to the Franciscan Order in 1342.  The convent and sanctuary thus became the mother house of the Franciscan Custody of the Holy Land.  It was the Ottoman Turks who, two centuries later, expelled the Franciscans by force.  Since then, the Franciscans have always appealed for its return to their ownership, which has never belonged to any other Christian entity, whether Catholic or non-Catholic.  And as far back as 1948, Israeli governments themselves have always recognized the Custody of the Holy Land as the sole official Christian interocutor for all questions regarding the Cenacle area.  Thus, there has never been a controversy between Christian Churches, and there must never be one, unless someone provokes one in order to "divide and rule", as they used to say in the ancient Roman Empire."
http://www.asianews.it/index.php?l=en&art=1498#

....Tax exemptions for religious intitutions was another question discussed in Tuesday's meeting.  The minister explained that measures for tax exemptions date back to the British Mandate.  The question of tax measures is part of the agenda for the implementation of the Fundamental Agreement between Israel and the Holy See.  "According to our laws -- Poraz explained -- places of worship (churches, synagogues, etc.) are exempt from taxes.  If these institutions include shops or offer accomodations for a fee, then taxes can be levied.  The only outstanding problem is concerning monasteries, where religious communities are housed.  I have decided that they should not pay taxes, but pay only for municipal services, such as cleaning, sewage, water, etc.  Municipalities need these taxes because otherwise they would not be able to offer such services."
Another matter mentioned by Poraz concerns the ownership of the Cenacle, once a property of the Franciscans, then of the Muslims and now of the Israeli government.  On the occasion of John Paul II's visit to the Holy Sites in the Holy Land, there had been talk of the possibility of returning the place of Jesus' Last Supper to the Church.
Poraz said that "the problem today is a disagreement among the various Churches on who is to take possession of it.  And Israel cannot enter into this disagreement.  The Orthodox Church and Armenian Church have the right to pray there, together with the Franciscans.  There are problems with the use of all the Holy Sites, but these are settled by the rules of the Status Quo.  There are no such rules for the Cenacle.  Everyone is expecting a decision from Israel, but there is no concrete decision yet."
http://www.asianews.it/index.php?l=en&art=1794
http://www.asianews.it/index.php?l=en&art=1999
http://www.asianews.it/index.php?l=en&art=2039
http://www.asianews.it/index.php?l=en&art=3110
http://www.asianews.it/index.php?l=en&art=4145
http://www.asianews.it/index.php?l=en&art=4649
http://www.asianews.it/index.php?l=en&art=4664

HERE, FORMATION OF THE KADIMA PARTY, NOV. 21

December 17, 2005, Pietro Sambi transferred to Washington by order of the Pope ( goes in Jan 2006)
December 18, 2005, Ariel Sharon suffers a stroke, half an hour after having tea with Shimon Peres ( this last detail according to Barry Chamish)

http://www.asianews.it/index.php?l=en&art=4712

AFTER THAT THE ROAD IS CLEAR

http://www.asianews.it/index.php?l=en&art=7874
http://www.asianews.it/index.php?l=en&art=7977
http://www.asianews.it/index.php?l=en&art=8188
http://www.asianews.it/index.php?l=en&art=9327
http://www.asianews.it/index.php?l=en&art=10822
http://www.asianews.it/index.php?l=en&art=11010
http://www.asianews.it/index.php?l=en&art=11291
http://www.asianews.it/index.php?l=en&art=11449
http://www.asianews.it/index.php?l=en&art=11637
http://www.asianews.it/index.php?l=en&art=12037
http://www.asianews.it/index.php?l=en&art=13699
http://www.asianews.it/index.php?l=en&art=14023
http://www.asianews.it/index.php?l=en&art=14043
Holy See-Israel speeds up work ahead of Pope's visit.

http://www.asianews.it/index.php?l=en&art=14519&geo=1&theme=2&size=A

ISRAEL - VATICAN
Hope for a conclusion in Holy See-Israel talks before Pope's arrival in Holy Land
Arieh Cohen
The Bilateral Commission met yesterday. The joint communiqué speaks of "progress" towards an agreement in the making since 1999.


Jerusalem (AsiaNews) – The Bilateral Permanent Working Commission between the Holy See and the State of Israel met on Wednesday 18 February, at the seat of the Israeli Ministry of Foreign Affairs, to continue negotiating a treaty that would confirm the fiscal status of the Church in Israel, and safeguard her properties, especially the sacred places, as well as bring about restitution of some that have been lost over time. These negotiations began on 11 March 1999.
The convoy of motor vehicles with diplomatic number plates, with on board the negotiators for the Holy See, was seen arriving at the Foreign Ministry a little before 10 a.m., and leaving again a little before 1 p.m. The negotiators did not grant interviews, and only spoke, together with the Israeli Foreign Ministry, through a joint communiqué. Interest has been aroused by the fact that this time the communiqué speaks of "progress" that was achieved, beyond repeating the usual references to an atmosphere of "great cordiality" and to the shared determination to conclude the agreement "as soon as possible".  For observers, the hope is thus being offered of further progress still before the arrival of Pope Benedict XVI who is expected to come to the Holy Land as a Pilgrim in May of this year.



See also, for the missing links:

http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/orientchurch/eventi/rc_con_corient_doc_20030121_indice_eventi.html,

in particular, the declaration about the next meetings, which are taking place at great speed in March 2009. According to the Vatican, NEXT PLENARY SESSION IS SCHEDULED FOR APRIL 23th, 2009, IN ORDER TO CONCLUDE THE AGREEMENT.

AGREEMENTS ARE SIGNED AT PLENARY CONFERENCES, not working level meetings.

www.mfa.gov.il/MFA/








6. UN resolutions against Israel, re: Jerusalem that the pope is ENDORSING:

http://www.mfa.gov.il/MFA/Foreign%20Relations/Israels%20Foreign%20Relations%20since%201947/1996-1997/112%20%20United%20Nations%20General%20Assembly%20Resolution%20ES

there are more to be found on the website as well, some relevant, some less.This is the crucial one mentioned in the article from the Vatican's Assassins.


 
7. CLAIMS OF THE CHURCH FOR PROPERTIES IN ISRAEL proper, YESHA, JORDAN, etc, and the Vatican's overall strategy for obtaining what they want

http:www.christusrex.org/www1/ofm/pope/10GPen/15/15GPdo07.html

http:www.christusrex.org/www2/liberation?III-4.html

http://www.christusrex.org/www1/ofm/jub/jerus2.html

If the Holy See has no competence to enter into territorial disputes between Nations, to take sides, to seek to impose detailed solutions, on the contrary it has the right and duty of reminding the Parties of the obligation to resolve controversies peacefully, in accordance with the principles of justice and equity within the international legal framework.
In the case of Jerusalem, both aspects, the religious and the political and territorial, are closely linked, even though they are different in their constitutive elements, in the proper means of dealing with them and in finding a solution to them.
IV. What is the Holy See requesting for Jerusalem?
First of all. it asks that Jerusalem be respected for what it is in itself or rather what it should be, compared with what it actually is. That is what I defined a short while ago as the vocation or identity of the Holy City. Jerusalem is a treasure of the whole of humanity. In view of a situation of evident conflict and considering the rapid transformation of the Holy City, any unilateral solution or one brought about by force is not and cannot be a solution at all.
It is the view of the Holy See that every exclusive claim - be it religious or political - is contrary to the logic proper to the very City itself. I must insist: every citizen of Jerusalem and every person who visits Jerusalem should embody the message of dialogue, coexistence and respect evoked by the City. Exclusive claims cannot be backed up by numerical or historical criteria
Having said that, I must add that there is nothing to prevent Jerusalem, in its unity and uniqueness, becoming the symbol and the national centre of both the Peoples that claim it as their Capital. But if Jerusalem is sacred to Jews, Christians and Muslims, it is also sacred to many people from every part of the world who look to it as their spiritual capital or travel there on pilgrimage, to pray and to meet their brethren in faith. It is the cultural heritage of everybody, including those who visit it simply as tourists.
Consequently, the Holy See believes that there is an obligation to find a realistic solution to the problems of Jerusalem, to all of them, according to their particular characteristics.
There is a political problem concerning Jerusalem for Israelis and Palestinians first of all which is very practical. The Madrid Conference of 1991 and what followed gave birth to hopes of a peaceful future. Hopes founded on a willingness to talk, to negotiate and to seek to compromise. Hopes which appeared well-founded also by reason of the commitment and efforts of a large section of the international community, and in particular of the United States of America, as the events which took place at Wye Plantation in the last few days have demonstrated. Let us hope that the aspirations for dialogue and peace will contribute to the implementation of what has been agreed upon.
In this context, which is certainly both complex and delicate, the Jerusalem question has been placed at the bottom of the agenda. It is understandable that the difficulty and delicacy of the question of Jerusalem have meant that it has been left till last. But we all know, and the Israelis and the Palestinians are the first in this, that peace and coexistence in the Holy Land and Middle East have no future, unless an answer is found to the political question of Jerusalem. Allow me to quote once again from "Redemptionis Anno" of 1984, in which His Holiness Pope John Paul II wrote: "I am convinced that the failure to find an adequate solution to the question of Jerusalem, and the resigned postponement of the problem, only compromise further the longed-for peaceful and just settlement of the crisis of the whole Middle East."
What does the Holy See mean by an "adequate solution"? It means recognizing that the situation today is one of conflict. It means that Israelis and Palestinians, with the collaboration of all who can help them, have to reach an agreement which corresponds in some way to their particular legitimate and reasonable aspirations, and respects the principles of justice.
As far as the Holy See is concerned, however, the solution of a territorial dispute alone is not enough for Jerusalem, precisely because Jerusalem is an unparalleled reality: it is part of the patrimony of the whole world. And the whole world has shown that it is fully aware of this when, for example, through resolutions of the United Nations it has sought to defend that patrimony.
Looking to Jerusalem, the Holy See continues to ask that it be protected by "a special internationally guaranteed Statute". What is meant by this? In the Holy See's view:
the historical and material characteristics of the City, as well as its religious and cultural characteristics, must be preserved, and perhaps today it is necessary to speak of restoring and safeguarding those still existing;
there must be equality of rights and treatment for those belonging to the communities of the three religions found in the City, in the context of the freedom of spiritual, cultural, civic and economic activities;
the Holy Places situated in the City must be preserved, and the rights of freedom of religion and worship, and of access, for residents and pilgrims alike, whether from the Holy Land itself or from other parts of the world, must be safeguarded.
At stake is the basic question of preserving and protecting the identity of the Holy City in its entirety, in every aspect. For example, the simple "extraterritoriality" of the Holy Places, with the assurance that pilgrims would be able to visit them without hindrance, would not suffice. The identity of the City includes a sacred character which belongs not just to the individual sites or monuments, as if these could be separated from one another or isolated from the respective communities. The sacred character involves Jerusalem in its entirety, its holy places and its communities with their schools, hospitals, cultural, social and economic activities.
Israelis and Palestinians, in the desired search for a political settlement of their conflict over Jerusalem, cannot overlook the fact that the City has aspects which go far beyond their legitimate national interests. They, therefore, have to take these aspects into consideration in looking for and in reaching a lasting political and territorial solution. In the same way, they will not be able to avoid giving due consideration to the efforts and demands of all legitimately interested parties. In this, Israelis and Palestinians must not feel in any way restricted, but rather honoured and reassured.

V.

http://198.62.75.4/www1/ofm/cust/TScustos.html

Until now, their main page was quite aggressive. I guess they realized it is not a good idea to publicize what their plans are, so now they changed the look, the words , make themselves look so nice and friendly

You can see at the bottom of this page that they had that " the recovering of the holy sites" by the Franciscans:

http://198.62.75.4/opt/xampp/custodia/01cust.php

http://198.62.75.4/www1/ofm/cust/TSriscat.html: you really need to review this to understand the scope of what they claim they own.

I have a map and list of properties - In Spanish - but cannot find the website any more, please ask for them if you need them,

here is a site in Spanish that is less shy to say what they really mean:

http://www.aciprensa.com/tierrasanta/custodios.php

also some truths they know but won't say: http://chiesa.espresso.repubblica.it/articolo/38551?eng=y


8. THE RUSSIAN CONNECTION


A. ADDENDUM ABOUT THE POPE HIMSELF:

Please read THE WHOLE TEXT TO UNDERSTAND THIS POPE and his HASHKAFAH BETTER.

THIS SECTION ALSO DEALS WITH THE RUSSIAN ORTHODOX CHURCH, .

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_Benedict_XVI


Near the end of June 2007, the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith issued a document approved by Benedict XVI "because some contemporary theological interpretations of Vatican II's ecumenical intent had been 'erroneous or ambiguous' and had prompted confusion and doubt."[57] The document has been seen as restating "key sections of a 2000 text the pope wrote when he was prefect of the congregation, Dominus Iesus."[57]

The document issued on 29 June 2007 stated in part that "oriental Churches [i.e. Eastern Christianity] ...[merit the title sister Churches] Because these Churches, although separated, have true sacraments and above all – because of the apostolic succession – the priesthood and the Eucharist, by means of which they remain linked to us [Roman Catholicism] by very close bonds. ...However, since communion with the Catholic Church, the visible head of which is the Bishop of Rome and the Successor of Peter, is not some external complement to a particular Church but rather one of its internal constitutive principles, these venerable Christian communities lack something in their condition as particular churches."[58]

"These ecclesial Communities which, specifically because of the absence of the sacramental priesthood, have not preserved the genuine and integral substance of the Eucharistic Mystery cannot, according to Catholic doctrine, be called "Churches" in the proper sense." —Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith[58]

The document went on to say "Christian Communities born out of the Reformation of the sixteenth century... do not enjoy apostolic succession in the sacrament of Orders, and are, therefore, deprived of a constitutive element of the Church. These ecclesial Communities which, specifically because of the absence of the sacramental priesthood, have not preserved the genuine and integral substance of the Eucharistic Mystery cannot, according to Catholic doctrine, be called "Churches" in the proper sense."[58]


.....[57] The Russian Orthodox Church, however, called the document "honest", noting that it contains nothing new and was conducive to "an honest theological dialogue."[59] The issuing of this document and the recent allowance made by Benedict XVI for more widespread use of the traditional Tridentine Mass was seen by some of his critics as a move towards conservatism, some even "raised questions about Benedict's commitment to the changes made during the Second Vatican Council."[60]




B .Interesting:

The SERBIA connection, and how the VATICAN financed the purchase of the weapons to kill Serbs, and help the Muslims of Croatia.

Also, let's not forget how the Ustashe, who killed so many Jews, also killed hundreds of thousands Serbs.

The enemy of my enemy is my friend!

http://02varvara.wordpress.com/2009/02/19/the-pope-the-patriarch-and-the-relationship-of-the-churches/




C. The Russian connection:



On March 2007, there was a historic visit of Vladimir Putin to the Vatican, with his bishop(s). Very cordial relations,bilateral friendly ties of both churches, and COORDINATION re: THE MIDDLE EAST,( in particular ISRAEL).

1.http://www.asianews.it/index.php?l=en&art=8635

2.http://dominusjesuschristus.blogspot.com/2007_03_01_archive.html

3.MEETINGS BETWEEN HEADS OF STATE ONLY!

http://www.asianews.it/index.php?l=en&art=8711

4.This shows the increasing ties between this pope and Russia, in particular as regards the Middle East. READ.

...."Now, we must allow for photographs" added the Pope, after Putin positioned himself at the desk, the same place occupied by Gorbachev in his historic visit with John Paul II and then the doors closed on the private meeting which lasted over 25 minutes.  Putin and Benedict XVI spoke in German assisted by two interpreters. 

Following the encounter, there was the presentation of the delegations and the exchange of gifts. ....""

http://www.asianews.it/index.php?l=en&art=8728&size=A

5.Visit to Italy,

http://www.asianews.it/index.php?l=en&art=8739&size=A

Religious and political interests
Putin's trip to Italy also has a religious-political dimension that should not be overlooked since it is also his first visit to the Vatican. For the Russian president meeting Benedict XVI reflects a desire to have the Vatican on his side in the great strategic game that is being played out on the energy, political, ideological and religious fields. Support from the Church of Rome would help Putin dismiss European and US criticism over Russia's human rights record, its political use of energy supplies and its reticence vis-à-vis sanctions against Iran. It would also reduce the country's historic fear of encirclement.
This is especially true in the Middle East, where Putin like his predecessors probably views Russia as the traditional protector of Christian Orthodoxy in the Holy Land, and wants to break its isolation by preventing the Vatican from aligning itself to the staunchly pro-Israel positions of the US right. This way Russia would not have to make compromise with Islamic fundamentalism which Russians, too, view as a danger.
6. RUSSIAN NAVAL BASE. In 2007, I had read - and sent out - an article about ITALY permitting Russia a naval base in the Mediterranean , after the papal visit, I cannot find the article any more. Here is one from August, but not accurate.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-473069/After-claim-Arctic-Putin-plans-warship-base-Med.html
Also this, re: nuclear submarines, from the Jerusalem Post, around the same time
http://mail.google.com/mail/#search/Italy%2C+Putin%2C/11291fb9e13bef49
7. GORBACHEV:

A. meets John Paul II at the Vatican in DECEMBER 1989, historic meeting of reconciliation shortly before 1990, when the Vatican steps up its efforts re; the Jews. ACTUALLY, the 1990 meeting of the ILC  takes place in EASTERN EUROPE, after 5 years of NO relationships with the Jews; all of a sudden, the Vatican renews relations with Jews, warming up, going to Auschwitz, meeting in Prague, (pretending to do?)  Teshuvah for the Shoah. Prelude to the other meetings later in 1991, etc.( see the article for more details on that)
http://www.nytimes.com/1989/12/02/world/the-kremlin-and-the-vatican-gorbachev-visits-pope-at-vatican-ties-are-forged.html?sec=&spon=&pagewanted=all

B. Gorbachev admits he is a Christian
http://www.hyscience.com/archives/2008/03/mikhail_gorbach.php


C.http://www.salsa.net/peace/timeline/nobelsigners.html
1990 - Mikhail Sergeyevich Gorbachev
Mikhail Sergeyevich Gorbachev was born on March 2, 1931 in Privolnoye, Stavropol province. He went to Moscow State University where he graduated in Law and joined the Communist Party of the Soviet Union in 1952 As president of the Soviet Union, he had a leading role in the peace process which today characterizes important parts of the international community. He pulled troops out of Afghanistan and helped achieve a negotiated solution to the long-running regional conflicts in Angola, Nicaragua and Cambodia. He visited China in May 1989, thereby heightening world attention to worker-student democracy demonstrations there. He established diplomatic relations with South Korea. Gorbachev cultivated unprecedented close relations with Presidents Reagan and Bush, negotiated major cuts in nuclear arms, and started to convert the defense industry to peacetime needs. The defense budget and the size of the armed forces have been cut significantly. He currently heads the Gorbachev Foundation (since 1992), Green Cross International (since 1993), and the Civic Forum movement (since April 1996).


D.THIS  article is very important in understanding Israel, the world, the UN, Gorbachev and James Baker in 1991, shortly before and after Madrid, and before the Israeli elections.
http://books.google.com/books?id=pP315Mw3S9EC&pg=PA539&lpg=PA539&dq=Peres+Gorbachev+meeting,+1991&source=bl&ots=_3drh_nD3M&sig=jJbjasqbC2Du44vIhvKPG--ovYM&hl=en&ei=hG_HSfPDGY-I_gbno5jyDQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=7&ct=result#PPA539,M1

E.I have been looking for details, no time now; but SHIMON PERES BELONGS TO GREEN CROSS INTERNATIONAL, is one of the big members., This is an organization based in GENEVA, Switzerland, FOUNDED BY GORBACHEV. They meet there , I believe,  regularly and COOPERATE in a whole range of activities SUBVERSIVE TO ISRAEL, among others. For instance, the WATER ISSUE, with a slant to GIVE AWAY our water to the Arabs for PEACE!! Not only LAND FOR PEACE, but WATER FOR PEACE!

See also, Peres Center for Peace, for their activities:

http://www.peres-center.org/ItemImages/4587/E-Bulletin%20may%202008.pdf

and

http://www.foeme.org/index.php




9. IMMEDIATE PLANS, AND IMMEDIATE DANGER!

A. Re: the Russian Compound : see the cooperation between Moscow and the Vatican re: the Holy Places. First Russia, then Rome??

http://www.asianews.it/index.php?l=en&art=5942


B.http://www.ewtn.com/vnews/getstory.asp?number=93878



C. Another Catholic source: Publication: Catholic Insight

Date: Saturday, March 1 2008
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legislature. Negotiations ground to a halt the following year, resuming only after diplomatic pressure from the U.S.A. in 2004.
Since then Vatican officials, notably Secretary of State Cardinal Tarcisio Bertone, have been frustrated at the slow pace of negotiations and the road blocks thrown up by the Israelis. One such particularly thorny issue was the sudden 2007 revocation of visas to religious personnel not born in Israel, cutting off hundreds of priests and religious from their work in the Holy Land. On Jan. 16, 2008, the Israeli Interior Minister announced that, while taking into consideration the security issue, Israel will now make a "concession" of restoring such visas.
Recently, Israel's Holy See ambassador, Oded Ben-Hur claimed that his government was very close to finalizing the full pact--85% agreed, he said. But such statements have been heard before. Pope Benedict would like to pay an official visit to Israel, but he is unlikely to do so until the Fundamental Agreement is signed and sealed. (Files from Catholic Pope Benedict XVI World Report, National Catholic Register & Zenit)
Another piece of news that probably escaped - deliberately - Israelis' attention: the Vatican supports DURBAN II!

    D.
    Vatican ... planning to attend Durban II conference    print this page      
   
    09 March 2009

The Vatican has said that it will attend the controversial UN anti-racism conference in Geneva next month ('Durban Review Conference', or 'Durban II') but hoped for a change in the wording of its final declaration."People go to conferences to discuss and debate," Vatican spokesman Federico Lombardi was quoted as saying by the Reuters news agency. He added: "That doesn't mean we agree with the draft text of the final declaration as it is now." Both Italy and the United States have said that they will not attend unless the wording of a document they consider hostile to Israel is altered before the gathering starts. Lombardi said the Vatican's representative in Geneva had "made it clear that the Vatican is opposed to all forms of discrimination, whether it is against an individual, a religion or a state." The Vatican has permanent observer status at the United Nations, but is not a member state.....
See the WJC feature on the Durban Review Conference
        

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E.Servizio Informazione Religiosa - Direttore: Paolo Bustaffa

Tuesday 10 March 2009


15:36 - POPE TO THE HOLY LAND: CATHOLIC ORDINARIES, "FOUNDATION STONE OF A FAMILY CENTRE IN NAZARETH"
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After the Pope made the official announcement of his visit to the Holy Land during last Sunday's Angelus, today the Catholic Ordinaries of the Holy Land's Assembly held a press conference to inform journalists about the journey and give some details. At the press conference, it was announced that "the Pope will lay the foundation stone of an international family centre. Always in Nazareth, the Pope will celebrate an open-air Mass. Forty to fifty thousands faithful are expected to attend. Other open-air Masses are going to be held in Jerusalem, in the Cedron Valley, with an expected attendance of 5,000 faithful, and in Bethlehem." Benedict XVI will pray in the Cenacle and in the Holy Sepulchre. The ecumenical programme includes some meetings at "the Greek-Orthodox and Armenian-Orthodox Patriarchate in Jerusalem." On the inter-religious side, "the Pope's meeting with the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, his visit to the Dome of the Rock as well as his prayer at the Wailing Wall and at the Rabbinic centre of Jerusalem - near the central synagogue ­­- have all been confirmed. Among the requests the Israeli government "has promised to satisfy", there is "the possibility for a Christian delegation to come from Gaza, where two buses have already been allocated to drive the faithful to Bethlehem for the Mass."

Tuesday 17 March 2009
13:56 - POPE IN THE HOLY LAND: LEWY (ISRAELI AMBASSADOR TO THE HOLY SEE), "ISRAEL WILL RESPECT THE POPE'S RELIGIOUS SYMBOLS"

"It is not fitting to enter the Western Wall area with religious symbols, including a cross." According to Rabbi Shmuel Rabinovitch, who is responsible for worship matters at the Western Wall, Benedict XVI should not wear the cross during his visit to the Western Wall, scheduled for 12 May as a part of his journey to the Holy Land. The Rabbi's declarations, published today by Jerusalem Post, were followed by a clarification by Mordechay Lewy, Israeli Ambassador to the Holy See. A statement that has just been released reads: "The Ambassador of Israel to the Holy See, H.E. Mordechay Lewy, believes it necessary to clarify that during the next visit of Pope Benedict XVI to the Western Wall, the same procedure that was applied in the Papal visit of the year 2000, will be valid. The Israeli host will respect, as a matter of course, the religious symbols of the Holy Father and of his entourage, as expected in accordance with rules of hospitality and dignity. This was confirmed to a high Official of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Jerusalem personally by Rabbi Shmuel Rabinovitch, who is responsible for worship matters at the Western Wall. This clarification was deemed necessary as today - 17 March 2009 - the Israeli daily "Jerusalem Post" published a misleading quotation of the rabbi."

Tuesday 03 March 2009
17:07 - BENEDICT XVI TO THE HOLY LAND: ISRAEL, LESSONS TO LEARN ABOUT THE POPE, THE VATICAN AND THE CHURCH

500 hours of classes to explain the figure of the Pope and the history of both the Church and the Vatican to the students of the Christian schools in Israel. This is what the local government decided in order to prepare the next visit of Benedict XVI to the country, for which 43 millions of shekel had been allocated, against 30 millions that had been allocated to John Paul II's visit in 2000. This is what parish priest of Jerusalem Father Ibrahim Faltas, an assistant in the Catholic schools of Jerusalem, explained to the SIR. "It is about some lessons on this issues aimed at pupils attending Christian Catholic schools, including Muslims," explained the Franciscan Father. The news is confirmed by Father Elias Daw, President of the court of appeal of the Melkite Greek Catholic Church. With its 60 thousands faithful, this church is the biggest church of Israel. "This initiative is showing Israelis' expectations for the papal visit. This journey comes in a delicate moment, after the tragedy of Gaza, the recent attacks against the symbols of our religion on an Israeli TV channel and the declarations made by Holocaust-denying bishop Williamson," he said to the SIR. Christians in the Holy Land need the Pope and his voice of truth and justice now more than ever." In Israel, there are 44 Catholic schools attended by 24,000 students both Muslim and Catholic.


10.EXAMPLES OF MANIPULATION OF THE RABBIS BY THE CATHOLIC CHURCH.

http://www.ofmcap.org/doc/bici-porfra-170.171-3.pdf

Peace in and of itself is a beautiful idea; except when it is celebrated in the Cathedral of Aachen, the author of the idea gets the Charlemagne Prize... and we know this:

http://redmoonrising.com/chamish/Dec05.htm

Now read THIS:

Wednesday 04 March 2009

10:16 - CHARLEMAGNE PRIZE: 2009 EDITION TO ANDREA RICCARDI

The Charlemagne prize 2009 was awarded to Andrea Riccardi, the founder of Saint Egidio Community. The news is reported by the Saint Egidio Community itself. Tomorrow, 5 March, the Community will hold a press conference (5pm. at piazza S. Egidio 3 in Rome) in which Jürgen Linden, Aachen's mayor, and Walter Eversheim, spokesman of the Charlemagne Prize Board of Directors, will meet Riccardi to give him the official news of his award. We decided to bestow the prize on Andrea Riccardi "to hail him as a great European who has put his life at the service of the neighbour, in the best sense of the term, for his passionate commitment to supporting understanding and dialogue between people of every religion and nationality and for the Saint Egidio Community is giving an outstanding contribution to a more peaceful and fair world, which is an extraordinary example of civil commitment for a more human and united Europe both within and outside its borders," the board explained. The prize will be bestowed on 21 March during an official ceremony which will be held in the coronation hall of Aachen town hall. Among the winners of past editions: Angela Merkel (2008), Carlo Azeglio Ciampi (2005), Bill Clinton (2000), Tony Blair (1999), Frère Roger Schutz, Taizé (1989), and before them, Robert Schuman, Winston Churchill, Konrad Adenauer, Jean Monnet e Alcide de Gasperi.

(I guess these INTERFAITH meetings with rabbis bore fruit; the sweet fruit of recapturing Har Tzion!)

There are a lot more examples , some listed in the article,  THE SECRET MACHINATIONS OF THE VATICAN AND ITS ALLIES IN ISRAEL, 2006


11. MEDICAL INFORMATION AND RELATED NEWS

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9A04E6DA143FF934A25752C0A9609C8B63

http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/article.php?p=32091

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rat_poison

"the main benefit of anticoagulants over other poisons is that the time taken for the poison to induce death means that the rats do not associate death with eating the poison."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warfarin

Use as a pesticide

Warning label on a tube of rat poison laid on a dike of the Scheldt river in Steendorp, Belgium. The tube contains bromadiolone, a second-generation ("super-warfarin") anticoagulant.

To this day, coumarins are used as rodenticides for controlling rats and mice in residential, industrial, and agricultural areas. Warfarin is both odorless and tasteless, and is effective when mixed with food bait, because the rodents will return to the bait and continue to feed over a period of days until a lethal dose is accumulated (considered to be 1 mg/kg/day over about six days).

7. CONCLUSION

From all the articles I have included in this paper, it appears to me, clear as day, that there is a very sinister and Machiavellian plot by ESAV /EDOM/ROME , enacted as we speak, to snatch away JACOB/ISRAEL's inheritance once and for all . Esav has never made peace with the fact that he WILLINGLY gave up his birthright for a plate of lentil soup, and that he was not worthy of his father's blessing, being a murderer,a thief, and a violent thug pretending to be a gentleman, and therefore his twin brother JACOB received the blessing of Eretz Yisrael. Esav and his descendants, to this day, plot and scheme to retrieve what they have irretrievably lost: through deception , theft and murder, they have almost succeeded. It is up to us now, the descendants of the Patriarchs, to make sure that the gift we received from Hashem stays in our hands, and that we are worthy of remaining its caretakers and guardians forever.

Good luck with your review of the material

Daisy J. Stern, MD

COPYRIGHT, MARCH 19, 2009,, all rights reserved

Professor Paul Eidelberg's piece about Pope Benedict

A Rabbi's Fawning Praise of Pope Benedict 

 

Prof. Paul Eidelberg

 

David Rosen, former chief rabbi of Ireland, heads the American Jewish Committee's Department of Interreligious Affairs.   In the March 30 issue of The Jerusalem Post, Rabbi Rosen writes fawningly of Pope Benedict XVI apropos of the pope's forthcoming visit to Israel. 

 

We read in the subheading of Rosen's article:  "By describing anti-Semitism as an assault against the roots of Christianity, Benedict declares that for a Christian to harbor such sentiment is to betray his or her own faith."  This being so, Christians in general, and Pope Benedict in particular, should regard Muslims—the most vicious and violent anti-Semites—as enemies of Christianity.  This inference may be obvious, but it is not trivial, as we shall soon see.

 

Rosen quotes Benedict as having said in a visit to a synagogue in Cologne in August 2005: "today I wish to reaffirm that I intend to continue with great vigor, on the path toward improved relations with the Jewish people, following the decisive lead given by Pope John Paul II."   Benedict was alluding to the establishment of full diplomatic relations between the Vatican and Israel in 1994 under the aegis of John Paul II.

 

Rabbi Rosen also offers this obsequious remark:  Pope Benedict XVI "has a profound understanding of the significance of the State of Israel for the Jewish people."   I wonder, however, whether Rosen has made an objective study of Benedict's attitude toward Judaism, and whether he is aware of the pope's morally neutral position concerning the conflict between Israel and her Islamic enemies?  He following remarks about former professor, Cardinal Joseph Alois Ratzinger are extracted from my book A Jewish Philosophy of History.

 

Prior to his becoming Pope Benedict XVI in 2005, Cardinal Ratzinger wrote an article "Reconciling Gospel and Torah: The Catechism" (April 1, 1996). Professor Sergio I. Minerbi, who has written extensively about the Catholic Church, sees a double meaning of the term "reconciling."  On the one hand, "to reconcile" is to make adversaries friendly toward each other. On the other hand, "to reconcile," in the context of religion, can also mean to convert Jews to Christianity.

 

In one of his books, Cardinal Ratzinger subtly attacked Judaism by saying that "the New Testament is merely an interpretation of the Tanach, starting with the story of Jesus."  He audaciously avowed, says Minerbi, "the Tanach during Jesus' time had not yet achieved its final form and taken on the quality of definitive canon.  He thus proposed [contrary to Romans 9, 10, and 11] a new version of the old theory of supercession [or replacement theology] according to which the Church is the true Israel."

 

(Replacement theology churches make up 63% of the American churches attendees. These include the World Council of Churches, the National Council of Churches, and the U.S. Presbyterian Church. On this issue, Cardinal Ratzinger agreed with these Protestant churches.)

 

 

In an August 6, 2000 document, Ratzinger wrote that that the only way to salvation is by joining the Catholic Church. On July 7, 2007, Pope Benedict revived the Catholic Latin Mass which permits Catholics to pray for the conversion of Jews.  He claimed there are no alternative ways to salvation. This is not all about Church's attitude toward the Jews.

 

As Minerbi points out, even during the papacy of John Paul II, "the request for [the Jewish people's] forgiveness is not made in the name of the Church itself, but, rather, in the name of those who harmed the Jews."  Pope John Paul thereby denied that the New Testament and the Church were in any way responsible for anti-Semitism. This, of course, is sheer obscurantism. Some Christian theologians, in essays compiled by Alan Davies, plainly trace anti-Semitism to the New Testament—obvious to any candid reader.

 

To spare the Church's reputation, Ratzinger distinguishes between pagan anti-Semitism, which he attributes to Nazism, and ordinary Jew-hatred.  He contends that the Church had never been a partner to Nazi anti-Semitism but rather should be included among its victims. In other words, he regards the primary motive of Nazi anti-Semitism as an attack not against the Jews so much as against Christianity!

 

Further, on May 28, 2006, Pope Benedict XVI visited Auschwitz, more than 90% of whose victims were Jews. In his speech he quoted a sentence from John Paul II, who had previously said at the same place: "Six Million Poles lost their lives during the Second World War—a fifth of the nation."  Minerbi comments: "By using the term 'six million,' combining the three million Polish Jews with the three million ethnic Poles, the Pope was, in effect, appropriating the Shoah. This is consistent with the fact that the Church has been systematically trying to present itself as a victim of Nazism, thereby exonerating it from any responsibility for the killing of the Jews."

 

Now for a word about the Church's attitude toward terrorism and Israel. According to Professor Minerbi, Pope John Paul II never condemned Palestinian terrorism outright. When the Pope did condemn terrorist acts, he did so when referring to international terrorism without a word about Palestinian terrorism. In fact, on two occasions, Yasser Arafat, the godfather of international terrorism who, in word and deed, was committed to Israel's annihilation, was a guest at the Vatican during the papacy of Jean Paul II. On February 15, 2000, the Vatican and Arafat signed an agreement rejecting Jerusalem as the capital of Israel.

 

Although Pope Benedict XVI said that no situation can justify terrorism, he nonetheless adopted, in effect, an anti-Israel position vis-à-vis Israel's terrorist enemies. Apropos of the Second Lebanon War and Hezbollah's unprovoked attack on Israel on July 12, 2006, the pope said on July 16: "At the origin of these devastating confrontations, there are, unfortunately, objective situations of the violation of law and justice. But neither terrorist acts nor retaliation can be justified, especially when these come with tragic consequences for the civilian population."  This is much more than preaching "do not resist evil."  The pope placed Hezbollah's terrorist acts and the Israeli retaliation on the same moral level: for him, neither can be justified. It seems that Pope Benedict XVI had therefore succumbed to moral equivalence, which makes nonsense of the New Testament. Perhaps those troubled by the theological implications of Israel's rebirth tend to sacrifice their intellects to their emotions. Of course, this criticism would be inappropriate coming from Rabbi Rosen.

 

 

 

Re: ADDENDUM TO "PERFECT CRIME", chapter 8 THE CZECH REPUBLIC, EUROPE, THE VATICAN, AND SHIMON PERES

Moshe writes:

 זה הפרסום הרשמי ,אינני חושב שהנשיא בצ'כיה קטולי.
גם אינני חושב שצכעיה בין פושטות הרכל באירופה .הם:הונגריה ,רומניה בולגרה
,אוקראינה ,הבלטיות.
צ'כיה ופולין קצת יותר חזקות.

הסיפור ב'הארץ' נראה הגיוני ,אך מי יודע אולי ,הגב' צודקת?
ההודעה מוכנה לשליחה עם הקובץ או הקישור המצורפים שלהלן:

קיצור דרך אל: http://www.haaretz.co.il/hasite/spages/1074975.html



Electronic translation: ( with my corrections)

This is the official advertising, I do not think that the president in the Czech Republic is a  Catholic
Also I do not think  that the Czech Republic is one of the countries facing bankrupcy in Europe.They  are: Hungary, Romania  Bulgaria, Ukraine, the Baltic states.
The Czech Republic and Poland a little stronger.

The story in ' Haaretz ' seems logical, but who knows maybe you are right?...

DS replies:

I know, We are NOT talking economics here, We are talking POLITICS. The GOVERNMENT fell on March 24 by a majority of one vote only ( 101 /200). Financially they are OK.

Here is what appears on the Israeli FOREIGN OFFICE NEWS SITE:

http://www.mfa.gov.il/MFA/Government/Communiques/2009/President-Peres-on-state-visit-+to-Czech-Republic-30-Mar-2009.htm

.........

"In his private meeting with the Czech President, President Peres presented President Klaus with the coalition agreements on which the new government to be established in Israel will be based. He explained that the new government will be obligated to advance the regional peace process with all of its neighbors, and that the government would have to honor all previous international agreements........"

My big question is: 1.DOES THAT INCLUDE SECRET AGREEMENTS MADE BEHIND OUR BACKS RE: JERUSALEM WITH THE VATICAN?( if at all, let's hope and pray NOT!)

2. In addition to the official line, which is ALWAYS A LIE WITH THIS DEVIOUS CHARACTER, WAS THERE ANYTHING ELSE HE IS NOT MENTIONING, SUCH AS THE HANDING OVER OF A LETTER TO THE POPE?

After all, this Prime Minister is ON HIS WAY OUT, and he COOPERATED WITH THE POPE ON THE LISBON TREATY. I am not sure I understand the ties there, but the fact is, his people THREW HIM OUT because he obviously is NOT representing their interests.

So what behind -the -scene intrigue is going on there? I am really not a specialist, only raising some issues.

Here is what some people have to say about my comment on the situation:

bill wrote:

YES, YES, AND YES!

 

BUT, DON'T WORRY, PERES IS NOT IN CHARGE. ALL HIS EFFORTS WILL END IN FAILURE!


And Barry Chamish said:

Well done...

So who knows. Unfortunately we have to wait and see, to find out if any dirty deals were made in secret, that were signed and stamped, and forwarded to Rome via private Czech courier ( By the way, isn't MAREK HALTER a Czech name?)

DS

2009/3/31 Moshe Lebel <moshelbl@zahav.net.il>

 זה הפרסום הרשמי ,אינני חושב שהנשיא בצ'כיה קטולי.
גם אינני חושב שצכעיה בין פושטות הרכל באירופה .הם:הונגריה ,רומניה בולגרה
,אוקראינה ,הבלטיות.
צ'כיה ופולין קצת יותר חזקות.

הסיפור ב'הארץ' נראה הגיוני ,אך מי יודע אולי ,הגב' צודקת?
ההודעה מוכנה לשליחה עם הקובץ או הקישור המצורפים שלהלן:

קיצור דרך אל: http://www.haaretz.co.il/hasite/spages/1074975.html


הערה: לשם הגנה מפני וירוסי מחשבים, תוכניות דואר אלקטרוני עשויות למנוע שליחה
או קבלה של סוגים מסוימים של קבצים מצורפים. בדוק את הגדרות האבטחה של הדואר
האלקטרוני שלך כדי לבדוק את אופן הטיפול בקבצים מצורפים.


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SO RELEVANT TO OUR STRUGGLE WITH THE VATICAN OVER JERUSALEM, OPENLY SAYING: NO , JERUSALEM NEVER WAS YOURS, NEVER WILL BE YOURS : Rabbi Kahane Divrei Torah 1989 THE GREAT SABBATH

W. sent this

DS

FROM THE DESK OF

BARBARA GINSBERG

 

"K A H A N E"

The magazine of the authentic Jewish Idea

Nissan -5749   April-1989

 

D I V R E I  T O R A H

 

THE GREAT SABBATH

 

It is the necessary, the indispensable preface and introduction to Passover.  It is the explanation that cries out the ultimate message of the holiday, the basic lesson of the feats of our freedom.  It is the foundation of foundations that raises Passover from an insipid, saccharine social custom beginning and ending with recipes printed in the New York Times women's section; from a golden opportunity for Manischewitz to return to Jewishness through capitalist Passover profits even as the truly frum, raise their level of religiosity by raising the level of prices; from a Jewish people that marches on its Seder stomach even as it moves on to the annual national lie. "Next Year in Jerusalem."  It is the Great Sabbath, which attempts to save Judaism from myopic ritualism, to make the Jew, Jewish and the Orthodox, religious.

 

Sabbath Hagadol, the great Sabbath.  The Sabbath preceding the Passover, the Sabbath that cries out the basic, the ultimate message of the enormous Exodus from Egypt, of Passover itself.  Sabbath Hagadol that gives us the lesson without which Passover, the Jewish people itself, lose all reason for being.  Sabbath Hagadol commemorating the basic lesson of Judaism: Faith, real faith, faith in G-d who really is greater than the mighty Pharaoh, or the regal Reagan of the burningless Bush – Sabbath Hagadol. The great Sabbath, that began more than 3,000 years ago on a Sabbath in Imperial Egypt.

 

"Speak unto all the congregation of Israel, saying: In the tenth day of this month, they shall take to them every man a lamb…"

 

It is a special, an awesome commandment, one that is given to every Jew, hence the unique words "Speak unto all the congregation."  Take a lamb and bind it up for four days.

 

You believe that this is a simple commandment.  Hardly.  The lamb is more than an animal; it is the very god of Egypt.  It is a deity, a hallowed creature before whom the Egyptian bows and whose meat dare not touch his mouth.  And the Jews, "every man" thereof, are commanded to take this lamb, this Egyptian god, the deity of their masters, and tie it to their beds, to their posts, bind it up.  And when the astonished and outraged Egyptian masters will ask: "What are you doing? The answer shall be: We shall soon slaughter this lamb, the deity, your god, and eat it.

 

Do you still think this is a simple, bland commandment?  It is a commandment fraught with danger to life, a commandment that surely sent fear down the spines of the Jewish slaves, that, without a doubt, led scholars to rush and ponder whether pikuach nefesh, danger to life might perhaps demand the postponing of the dangerous commandment…

 

Nor does the Almighty stop there.  He insists on a policy of extremism, of goading the gentile.  Not content with a commandment that cries desecration of the Egyptian god, that taunts him with the sight of his deity bound up, the G-d of Israel insists that the Jew add salt to the wound.

 

"And they shall eat the flesh in that night, roasted with fire… eat it not partially cooked, nor boiled in water, but roasted with fire, its head with its legs and with its insides complete."

 

Awake and consider!  This is what Passover is all about; only this! This is Judaism what Judaism is all about; only this!  This is what the duty and the role and the essence of the Jew is all about; only this!  To affirm to the world, but first to ourselves that the L-rd, the G-d of Israel, is.  That He truly does exist, that He is the One, the only One, that He, only He, directs the world, the fate of man, the destiny of His people.  That whatever will be for the Jew will be only because He so decrees.  That the gentile has no relevance to the Jewish fate, that the Pharaohs of all time, the ones in Egypt and the ones in Washington are utterly irrelevant to what will be with the Jew.

 

On the Great Sabbath in Egypt, the L-rd taught us the lesson that we trampled in the dust, the dust of secularism and the dust of the yeshiva world alike: The lesson that the Jew must raise high, must flaunt the glory and Omnipotence of his G-d.  That the world must be compelled to see their deities, their gods and idols, bound up and humiliated and destroyed.  That one must goad the gentile in order to raise high the banner of the L-rd.  That Kiddush Hashem, the sanctification of the Name of the G-d of Israel, demands an open, fearless, flaunting sacrifice of the idols and deities of the gentiles that deny the uniqueness of the G-d of Israel, His exclusiveness, His Oneness!  The lamb is openly tied and those who tremble and whisper: "But we dare not goad the gentile," are silenced with thunderous contempt.  The lamb is slaughtered and roasted whole and fully and openly.  It cannot be hastily covered in a pot where it will not be seen.  Its identity cannot be disguised by cutting its body into pieces.  We cannot escape the danger of the gentile by avoiding confronting and goading him.  No.  Precisely the opposite!

 

The same gentile who thundered and thunders: "Who is the L-rd?  I know not the L-rd and will not let Israel go!" must be taught the eternal lesson of: "The L-rd is G-d, the L-rd is G-d!"  The gentile does not wish to "know" G-d, to acknowledge His exclusive kingship.  He must be taught that lesson in an open and bold and humiliating way.  He and his idols must be humbled and broken.  The lamb is taken openly.  The lamb is slaughtered openly.   And those who cringe in populism and whisper:  "But one dare not goad the gentiles…" are silenced by the thunder of the L-rd, whose commandment is eternalized by the Rabbis of the Great Sabbath, Sabbath Hagadol.  So, let that Sabbath be understood and appreciated and embraced.  For without it, there cannot be a Passover, an understanding of what that Passover really is.  And without that, when the Jewish child asks for the meaning of this night, the pathetic father who knows not what to tell him will doom his child to become a pathetic as he: practitioner of Jewish ritual, but never, never a religious Jews.

 

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The result of my efforts since Purim.... and this is only the beginning. Watch the massive media blitz unfold AND PARTICIPATE IN IT! Watch as the Knesset has to finally PUBLICLY DEAL with these issues, B"H

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/130676

ADDENDUM TO "PERFECT CRIME", chapter 8 THE CZECH REPUBLIC, EUROPE, THE VATICAN, AND SHIMON PERES

  8.THE CZECH REPUBLIC, EUROPE, THE VATICAN, AND SHIMON PERES

Copyright March 30th, 2009, all rights reserved.


March 30th, 2009

 Shimon Peres is going to the Czech Republic today, March 30th, 2009, on a one (or is it two?) day visit, officially for the following purpose:

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1237727566689&pagename=JPArticle%2FShowFull

"....The president, who will leave for a state visit to the Czech Republic on Monday, specified that this included negotiations to free IDF soldier Gilad Schalit, held captive by Hamas in the Gaza Strip since June 2006.

During his visit, the president said, he will present Czech government officials with the coalition agreement between the Likud and Labor parties, and explain that the new government will be committed to continuing the peace process.

The Czech Republic currently holds the rotating presidency of the European Union.....

Now we know that Shimon Peres is an INVETERATE LIAR, that whenever he says A, one should think B.

So my question is, what is really going on here?

Let's see:

1. THE GOVERNMENT OF THE CZECH REPUBLIC JUST COLLAPSED LAST WEEK:

http://mail.google.com/mail/#sent/1205348f6668f327

This political upheaval in the Czech Republic is very bad for Rome.

Rome has been putting pressure on the Czech president to go along and play the game the pope wants, THE LISBON TREATY; the government had bowed to Vatican and German pressure - READ, THE POPE AND HIS HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE SCHEME! -, but now it fell by the slimmest of majorities.

Read the following articles for more understanding of the situation:

2.http://www.hrad.cz/en/for-media/press-releases/6007.shtml

3.http://www.subchat.com/otchat/read.asp?Id=392132

4.http://www.eu2009.cz/en/news-and-documents/news/statement-of-deputy-prime-minister-a--vondra-on-the-chamber-of-deputies_-consent-with-the-lisbon-treaty-ratification-10076/


5.http://europa.eu/lisbon_treaty/glance/index_en.htm


6.http://www.findingdulcinea.com/news/Europe/2009/march/Czech-Government-Collapse-Could-Have-Far-Reaching-Fallout-.html

7.This article explains the political situation in the Czech Republic, and its effect on Europe ( READ: THE VATICAN AND GERMANY) http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1887551,00.html

This is something to follow, to see how Rome will react. I think it is a bigger story than it appears.

Why would Peres go to THE CZECH REPUBLIC OF ALL PLACES TODAY? Is it really ONLY to reassure the European Union, or is there more here than meets the eye?

Please pay attention to the following details:

1. PERES IS MEETING PRIVATELY WITH A TOP LEVEL CZECH OFFICIAL.

2. WE KNOW THAT WHENEVER PERES MEETS PRIVATELY WITH HIGH LEVEL OFFICIALS, IT MEANS BETRAYAL OF ISRAEL'S AND THE JEWISH PEOPLE'S INTERESTS.

3. SOMETIMES HE BRINGS CONFIDENTIAL LETTERS WITH HIM FOR THE POPE, TO BE HANDED OVER BY A TRUSTED THIRD PARTY ,SUCH AS HIS FRIEND MAREK IN 1993 , HANDING OVER OUR PROPERTY TO THE POPE WITHOUT OUR KNOWLEDGE.

IS HE BRINGING A LETTER FOR THE POPE, TO BE HANDED OVER VIA UNORTHODOX CHANNELS, AWAY FROM PRYING EYES OF THE MEDIA ?

4.WHAT DOES EUROPEAN AND VATICAN PRESSURE ON THE CZECH REPUBLIC HAVE TO DO WITH PERES?

5. AS PER RAV STEIN, THURSDAY NIGHT, MARCH 26, THE SAME DAY A WORKING SESSION OF THE BILATERAL COMMISSION WAS TO TAKE PLACE - AND I HAVE FOUND NO RECORD WHATSOEVER OF THAT SESSION, EVEN THOUGH THEY USUALLY LEAVE AN ONLINE TRAIL:

A. JORDANIAN RADIO REPORTED THAT THE HANDING OVER OF JERUSALEM PROPERTIES ( AND IN BETHLEHEM) TO THE VATICAN IS A DONE DEAL AND, as per various news channels

B. FOR THE FIRST TIME, OLMERT MENTIONED THE INTERNATIONALIZATION OF JERUSALEM, THAT THIS IS THE PLAN THEY HAVE.

7.  IN ADDITION, NETANYAHU HAS COMMITTED HIMSELF TO HONOR ALL AGREEMENTS MADE BY OLMERT AND HIS GOONS.

So, having all these elements in our hands, I am asking:

COULD IT BE THAT THE MAJOR AND TRUE PURPOSE OF PERES'S VISIT TO THE CZECH REPUBLIC WAS TO SEND, BY PRIVATE COURIER, A LETTER TO THE POPE ,SIGNED BY OLMERT , AND HANDING OVER JERUSALEM TO THE VATICAN?

I HAVE NO PROOF TO THAT EFFECT AT THIS TIME, THIS IS STRICTLY SPECULATION. I AM ONLY ASKING QUESTIONS.

I REALLY HOPE THAT THE ROAD IS STILL CLEAR, THAT THE FINAL AGREEMENTS HAVE NOT BEEN SIGNED YET, AND THAT WE STILL HAVE A CHANCE TO CHANGE FACTS ON THE GROUND AND ON PAPER.

THANK G-D, A NEW GOVERNMENT IS BEING INSTALLED TOMORROW, WITH A NEW MINISTER OF RELIGIOUS AFFAIRS, YAAKOV MARGI , AND A NEW FOREIGN MINISTER, AVIGDOR LIEBERMAN.

LET'S HOPE AND PRAY THAT THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO NIX ANY ACCORDS IN THE MAKING , OR ALREADY MADE, BY THIS GOVERNMENT OF ENEMIES OF ISRAEL.


Daisy J. Stern, MD

LETTER OF THE SANHEDRIN TO THE ISRAELI GOVERNMENT, ENGLISH TRANSLATION. PLEASE READ, AND YASHER KOACH GADOL TO ALL SIGNATORIES TO THE LETTER!

Tel: 02-5661962, cell 050-6733831, fax: 057-7976007

Email: dbtc@actcom.com

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ב"ה

Rosh Hodesh Nissan, 5769

Letter from the Beit Din of the Sanhedrin

To the President of the State of Israel

To the Incoming Prime Minister Mr. Binyamin Netanyahu

To the Outgoing Prime Minister Mr. Ehud Olmert

Ministers and Members of Knesset

To the esteemed heads of state,

"I have set watchmen upon thy walls, O Jerusalem, they shall never hold their peace day nor night: 'You that make mention of the LORD, take no rest, And give Him no rest, till He establish, and till He make Jerusalem a praise in the earth.' The LORD has sworn by His right hand, and by the arm of His strength: Surely I will no more give thy corn to be food for thy enemies; and the sons of strangers shall not drink thy wine, for which thou hast laboured."

Isaiah 62:6-8

Regarding the upcoming visit of the Pope

During the Lag B'Omer season, Pope Benedict XVI is expected to visit the holy sites of his religion and to put forward a series of agreements between the Vatican and the State of Israel.

We would like to call your attention to the Sanhedrin's stance on this subject.

The State of Israel grants freedom of worship to every religion except the Jews on their most sanctified site, the Temple Mount: there, they are granted neither freedom of prayer nor minimal freedom of religion. The State of Israel thus contradicts the purpose for which it was established and undermines its own foundations.

In contrast the State of Israel makes special efforts to transfer its national, religious, and spiritual assets to the sons of strangers.

For many years negotiations and contacts to reach agreements have been conducted regarding what the Catholic Church sees as its property or desires for itself, whether within previous confines such as Mt. Zion or within the Old City, the Kinneret, and other places. Those who initiated the concept of the "Holy Basin" principally intend to remov exclusive Jewish sovereignty from the Temple Mount and the Old City and in effect, aim at the total removal of Jewish sovereignty.

We expect you to be particularly watchful regarding Jerusalem as Passover approaches "lest our right hand forget its skill".

The government of Israel, as a Jewish government, must heighten awareness of the freedom of the Jewish people more than ever on the holiday of Passover.

The State of Israel is also subject to the deed of ownership – the Bible - according to which it claimed ownership of the land at its very establishment. Therefore the government must actualize Jewish sovereignty in Jerusalem, the city of God, the royal city, capital of Israel, heart of the world, and it must guarantee the right of worship and prayer of Jews on the Temple Mount and realize the obligation of Jews to bring the Passover sacrifice on the 14^th of Nissan on the eve of Passover, this year and every year. The Passover sacrifice redeems Israel from spiritual excommunication and distinguishes between Israel and the nations [Ex. 12: 27,43], and it is a shield and protection against all of the unfounded demands of foreign nations to take possession of the land of Israel along with us [Ex. 13]

It should be noted that the third President of the State of Israel, the late Zalman Shazar, found the courage in 5723[1963] when Pope Pius IV visited Israel to read him the verse from the Prophet Micha, chapter 4: "For let all the peoples walk each one in the name of its god, but we will walk in the name of the LORD our God for ever and ever". Israel's Chief Rabbis at that time protected the honor of Israel and refused to meet the pope.

In 5760 [2000] Pope John Paul II visited Jerusalem. During his visits attempts were made by various agents to remove Israeli sovereignty from the Temple Mount, in an effort to demonstrate the sovereignty of a foreign rule and to allow the visit to take place without the presence of any representative of Israel on the holiest site of Judaism. These attempts failed because of vigorous public objections.

The Rabbi of the Holy Sites and of the Kotel, Rav Shmuel Rabinovitz, has demonstrated commendable behavior in refusing to stop Jewish prayer at the Kotel during the present Pope's visit, which is scheduled for Lag B'Omer.

The speedy reconciliation with the Pope after a series of unfortunate statements that he made against us does no honor to the People of Israel. All of the political and Torah authorities must do whatever they can to prevent the signing or holding of any agreement that deviates from the spirit of this document and must express their disapproval at the Catholic Restorationist trends whose aim is to nullify the sovereign power of the State of Israel and the status of the Jewish People, the People of Israel in the Land of Israel, its holy land.

Please clarify your position to your people, to the State, and to the entire world.

Show respect for the God of your forefathers, your city, and your nation and do not act grovel submissively before foreigners and disparage the stature of the people of Israel.

In these difficult days we face a danger from Iran and the entire region working together with the seventy nations of the world, pushing us to continue to retreat. This only diminishes Jews, the nation, and the State of Israel and does irreversible damage to our deterrent power.

"Let all of the nations of the world see that My name is called upon you, and they shall fear you" .

Ever since the liberation of Jerusalem as a unified city by the Israeli Defense Forces in 5727 [1967] the nations and religions of the world have not reconciled themselves to the sovereignty and restoration of the Jewish people in their eternal capital where the Temple will eventually be rebuilt to serve the God of Israel, God of the world, and a king of Israel will again rule, a descendant of King David.

Especially ever since the Oslo Accords in 5753 [1993], the Vatican acting as a state with theological views, signed a series of secret documents¹ with various agents in the State of Israel - behind the back of the citizens – These agents are totally devoid of any respect for the spiritual and diplomatic status of the Jewish people, and their main goal is to transfer Jewish national assets in Jerusalem to the hands of foreigners and to promote measures that will undermine the religious and political ownership of the People of Israel over their holy sites: first and foremost, the Temple Mount, the Kotel, and the entire Old City of Jerusalem, transferring them to the Vatican and international agents, which will inevitable seize them territorially from the State of Israel . Thus, too, is the plan for other sites in our holy land.

The Beit Din of the Sanhedrin declares that the representatives of the State of Israel may represent the Jewish People as long as they are acting as representatives of the Jewish People over history in accordance with its tradition and laws. Insofar as this is not the case, their representation is not legitimate.

These representatives, even if they are acting in the manner of the kings of Judah Hezekiah and Zedekiah who showed the treasures of the Holy Temple to the agents of foreign powers, are not authorized to transfer ownership or absolute tenancy to lands and buildings in the Land of Israel to any foreign religious or political agent.

Therefore all of the documents which were drawn up by such representatives with the Vatican as a theological and diplomatic agents in opposition to the spiritual essence of the People of Israel are void. All of the agreements with the Vatican which have been made or will be made in this spirit are null and void and the Vatican should not believe that they will retain them. The Vatican as the head of all Christian church is responsible for the legacy of Rome which occupied Jerusalem, dispossessed its Jews, and destroyed their land. All of the Christian churches currently standing in Jerusalem are the product of the destruction of the Jewish people, their dispossession and exile to the Christian exile which Christianity glorifies in as being everlasting. This is in addition to the priceless treasures, both material and spiritual, belonging to the Jews which lie in the cellars of the Vatican, and the countless synagogues all over the world which were confiscated by the Vatican and its representatives and never returned to their rightful owners.

Anyone who negotiates and signs any agreement to change the status of the State of Israel in its holy sites in Jerusalem and the Land of Israel is raising his hand against the Torah, against his own faith, his people, his land, against his own homeland and against the home of his fathers.

There is a strict prohibition against approving any agreement that transfers state ownership to foreigners, and this has been set forth in the criminal code of the State of Israel.

Continuing to seek favor in the eyes of the Church by making illegal agreements might end, God forbid, in devastating religious wars all over the world.

Signatories

Yoel Schwatrz, Head of the Bet Din, Sanhedrin

Yisrael Ariel, Head of the Bet Din Am U'medina

Dov Meir Stein, Hillel Weiss, Avraham Dov Ben Shor, Yishai Babad, Yishayahu Cohen Hollander, Meir Halevi Hakak, Mordechai Kislev, Ezra Tepper, Pinhas Ben-Zvi Angel

1 The collection of documents has been sent to me by Dr. Daisy Stern and is posted on the Sanhedrin site www.TheSanhedrin.org

[note, Dr. Daisy Stern, it is also posted at the following link:

http://israeltruthtimes.blogspot.com/2009/03/perfect-crime-vaticans-plot-to-rob-am.html]

Whenever Peres goes somewhere, we have to worry. The Czech Republic collapsed last week, the Vatican and Germany - read THE POPE - has been putting heavy pressure on it to SIGN THIS DOCUMENT. Now PERES enters the picture. WHAT'S UP????

1.

http://www.hrad.cz/en/for-media/press-releases/6007.shtml

2.Peres Leaves for Czech Republic

Nisan 5, 5769, 30 March 09 10:42

(IsraelNN.com) President Shimon Peres left for a one day visit in the Czech Republic on Monday morning. The Czech Republic currently holds the presidency of the European Union.

Peres explained that the first question he will be asked is whether Prime Minister designate Binyamin Netanyahu will continue the peace process. He said that he will emphasize that Netanyahu is committed to continue negotiations.

3.http://www.subchat.com/otchat/read.asp?Id=392132

www.IsraelNationalNews.com

4.http://www.eu2009.cz/en/news-and-documents/news/statement-of-deputy-prime-minister-a--vondra-on-the-chamber-of-deputies_-consent-with-the-lisbon-treaty-ratification-10076/

5.http://europa.eu/lisbon_treaty/glance/index_en.htm

6.http://www.findingdulcinea.com/news/Europe/2009/march/Czech-Government-Collapse-Could-Have-Far-Reaching-Fallout-.html

It appears the PTB are recently escalating the hate rethoric against settlers: here is the clip. It's pure blood libel.

http://www.mako.co.il/tv-erez-nehederet/770e3d99ade16110-3dcd8020c3457110/9a94682bcd01e110-8657bfb5c136e110/f444d82f4458f110/Video-6dbc20c9ec58f11004.htm&send=1&cat=&vcmid=6dbc20c9ec58f110VgnVCM100000290c10acRCRD

Zerach replied:

Em boh lehorgecho, hashleim lehorgo

SHmuel commented:

Are we talking about the "1%" of the good israelis involved on that degenerate skit or who are those in Channel #2 that made that filthy garbage?

And then we blame the New York Times for allowing a link to Oliphant? Nuts! 

Those that made it are poisonous anti-Semites, enemies from top to bottom.  And if EL-AL played it they are just about the same.

Yet people STILL pays the AGRAHAT hatelevisia and listens to that element.

You help me figure that one out because I simply cannot fathom what makes us tick.

Carl said:

What do you suggest people do about it?

And W. wrote:

I saw it broadcast originally on TV a month or 2 ago - absolutely awful, and there is a suit being filed, so I read somewhere

DS adds:

I see the actors here, and I am shocked at WHO participated in this mascarade: not some obscure actors and directors here: WE ARE TALKING FAMILIAR, WELL-KNOWN TV PERSONALITIES. I find this even more shocking and alarmin,:THIS IS MAINSTREAM ISRAELI MEDIA, RECOGNIZED BY MOST CITIZENS: it is almost the equivalent of a statement BY THE GOVERNMENT.

It should definitely NOT go unanswered, and should be exposed for the filthy, LITERAL BLOOD LIBEL that it is.

Do they REALLY want our input? Then why don't WE approach them, and REVEAL THE DIRTY LITTLE SECRET nobody wants to talk about: THE REASON WE HAVE NO WATER is NOT for LACK OF RAIN, it is BECAUSE WE SIGNED IT ALL AWAY TO THE ENEMIES FOR "PEACE".

Water Authority wants public input in master plan

Mar. 29, 2009
Ehud Zion Waldoks , THE JERUSALEM POST

The Water Authority will encourage professional and public input into the master plan it has begun to prepare, officials said as they unveiled its planning process for the first time at the sixth annual Israeli Water Association Conference in Ramat Gan on Wednesday.

The authority has begun working on an expedited process to have the major planks of the plan ready by year's end, the planning branch's Micki Zaide told the gathering. Instead of working sequentially, tackling one issue at a time, the issues would be debated simultaneously so that the plan could be ready as soon as possible, he said.

While there have been efforts to get a master plan for the water economy approved by the government, none has succeeded. Right now, the only document in place is an interim plan for 2002-2010, which has been extended to 2013. However, many important issues were not dealt with in that plan, Zaide said.

The new plan will tackle the pressing concerns of a changing water economy, authority head Prof. Uri Shani said.

"Everything is changing. The national infrastructure, goals, priorities, prices. Everything is in flux," he said at the main plenum session of the one day technical conference.

There were no great surprises when Zaide laid out the broad areas the plan is to address: removing obstacles to developing the water economy, preparing for threats, treating sewage, preserving natural water resources, increasing efficiency, protecting nature and increasing the number of professionals in the water economy. There were 200 specific sub-topics that the plan would address, he said.

According to Zaide, there will be ample opportunity for professionals and academics to comment and make suggestions through conferences, roundtables and the Internet. Policy papers would be posted on the authority's Web site for public comment, he said.

They hope to have most of the policy papers written by January 1, 2010, with others to follow within six months. Some few issues would take longer and be added to the plan as they were completed, he added.

Featuring the process for the master plan was part of the conference's goal of looking to the future, conference organizer and Tahal Group senior economist Dr. Sinaia Netanyahu told The Jerusalem Post.

"There's been a conference every other week for the last three years about the water crisis we are currently undergoing," she said, "We wanted to look forward to see what was ahead of us."

She highlighted some of the major issues facing the water economy.

"Despite the Water Corporations Law of 2001, which said there should be 30 corporations covering the entire populace by 2007, there are only 14 serving 36 percent of the population. Within six months, 50% of the population is supposed to be served by a corporation, but there is still a lot to be done," she said.

Water corporations take control of the water and sewage infrastructure, and reinvest the profits in upgrades and upkeep. The idea behind their creation was to prevent local authorities from using the revenue from the sale of water for other municipal issues, thus allowing infrastructure to continue to degrade.

Netanyahu also stressed the issue of water loss.

"While officially the water loss rate on average is about 10%, we all know that it varies [between municipalities]. In east Jerusalem, for instance, the water loss rate is 40%," she said.

Another major issue is the lack of young professionals in the field.

"We do not see sufficient numbers enrolled in university in relevant fields like civil engineering, hydrology or environmental engineering. I read somewhere that 50% of the professionals are expected to retire within the next 10 years. We need to train people today," Netanyahu said.

"Training is crucial because it's become a much more complex field. You need to know about law, economics and technology, among other things. I call on universities to act now to recruit more young people into the field."

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SHIMON PERES; THE NEW GOVERNMENT COMMITTED TO THE "PEACE PROCESS".

Peres: New gov't to honor all agreements

Mar. 29, 2009
JPost.com Staff , THE JERUSALEM POST

Prime Minister-designate Binyamin Netanyahu's new government will honor all agreements made by outgoing Prime Minister Ehud Olmert's government, Israel Radio quoted President Shimon Peres as saying on Sunday.

The president, who will leave for a state visit to the Czech Republic on Monday, specified that this included negotiations to free IDF soldier Gilad Schalit, held captive by Hamas in the Gaza Strip since June 2006.

During his visit, the president said, he will present Czech government officials with the coalition agreement between the Likud and Labor parties, and explain that the new government will be committed to continuing the peace process.

The Czech Republic currently holds the rotating presidency of the European Union.

Israel Radio also reported that Peres would shorten his visit to Prague in order to return to Israel for the presentation of Netanyahu's government at the Knesset on Tuesday.

During the visit, Peres will meet with political leaders, including Prime Minister Mirek Topolanek and Foreign Minister Karel Schwarzenberg, in order to discuss the strengthening of bilateral relations and Israel's relations with the EU. He will also promote the signing of a wide-ranging research and development agreement between Israel and the Czech Republic, while using the occasion to explain Israel's position on Hamas and Hizbullah.

Foremost in these discussions, however, will be the proposal to form a strong European coalition to thwart the Iranian nuclear threat.

Greer Fay Cashman contributed to this report.

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It appears the PTB are recently escalating the hate rethoric against settlers: it is reaching Nazi era pitch. This is usually a prelude to VIOLENCE and ABUSE against us. We should not allow this kind of libel to go unanswered

El-Al Inflight Entertainment Called 'Anti-Semitic'

Nisan 4, 5769, 29 March 09 04:59

(IsraelNN.com) Travelers on Israeli airline El-Al report that its flights now feature a satire about residents of Hevron which many have termed "anti-Semitic." The producers of the film may face libel suits.

The offending skit was aired earlier in the month on the satirical Eretz Nehederet (A Wonderful Land) show on Channel 2 TV. The popular show has run for six seasons in Israel and is similar to the American program Saturday Night Live.

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This sounds terrible to me: I interpret it as a VERY SERIOUS ESCALATION of violence, on the part of t NEW-OLD Defense Minister Barak: READY TO KILL JEWS BY PROXY. Disprove me if you can,

PA Police In Action – Without IDF

Nisan 4, 5769, 29 March 09 12:27

(IsraelNN.com) Residents of Shilo, in the Binyamin district, reported Saturday night that they had seen Palestinian Authority armed forces patrolling the area alone the day before. Under agreements between Israel and the PA, PA police are permitted to patrol in areas near Jewish communities only after coordinating with the IDF's Civil Administration. In such situations, PA armed forces are usually accompanied by IDF officers.

Witnesses reported the incident to IDF officials, who told them the Friday patrol had been coordinated with the IDF. However, residents of Binyamin were suspicious of the claim that the patrol was approved by Israel, pointing out the recent murders committed by PA officers.

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Shavuah Tov. At this site, I found that it is extremely easy to translate whatever I send out in whatever language you wish. Below

If you want the material I sent out to you.

PERFECT CRIME: THE VATICAN'S PLOT TO ROB AM YISRAEL OF JERUSALEM, which is the article about the Vatican

and

THIS IS THE LETTER OF THE SANHEDRIN......- the letter of the Sanhedrin

just copy and paste

http://israeltruthtimes.blogspot.com/

and the text will immediately appears in the language you chose.

http://translate.google.com/

and the text will immediately appears in the language you chose.

Then just go to those titles listed in the left column, by month.

The text was posted in March, so it will appear archived in March by April.

 Even easier, you can go directly to the blog, ISRAEL TRUTH TIMES, already translated into (pig) Hebrew!


http://translate.google.com/translate?prev=hp&hl=en&js=n&u=http%3A%2F%2Fisraeltruthtimes.blogspot.com&sl=en&tl=iw


REALLY AMAZING TECHNOLOGY!

True, the translation is pretty poor, and often difficult to understand, sometimes doesn't even make sense, but overall it is a great tool if you are in a rush or short of funds to pay for a translator.

Of course, you can do the same for the links posted in the text.

And choose any language you want that google is set-up for,

Thank G-d for those smart kids who invented this.

DS

Amazing video of this incredibly courageous woman who took upon herself to FIGHT ISLAM. If SHE CAN, SO CAN WE FIGHT OUR ENEMIES : RESHIT GOYIM AMALEK/ ESAV SONEH ET YAAKOV. Wafa Sultan 2007

 

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFe5YQGau3A&eurl=http://www.lepost.fr/article/2009/03/03/1442889_wafa-sultan-j-ai-decide-de-combattre-l-islam-la-video-en-version-francaise.htm

David Neuhaus: in charge of CATHOLIC JEWS in Israel .This is their idea of "3 religions": see this "rabbi" without a kippa?(2) This is how they deceive people. READ ON, IMPORTANT.These Jesuits are the absolute worst enemies of Am Yisrael.

1.Friday 20 March 2009

13:45 - HOLY LAND: AN ISRAELI JESUIT IS THE NEW DIRECTOR OF THE CATHOLIC COMMUNITIES OF JEWISH EXPRESSION

The Jesuit father David Neuhaus is the new director of the Catholic communities of Jewish expression in Israel. He was appointed on March 17th by the Latin Patriarch of Jerusalem, Fouad Twal; he replaces the current Custodian of the Holy Land, father Pierbattista Pizzaballa, who has ended his office. The new patriarchal vicar is Israeli, 41 years old, and since 2007 he has been in charge of the community of Haifa. In addition, he teaches Holy Scriptures at the seminary of the Latin Patriarchate in Beit Jala and at the University of Bethlehem. "In Israel, there are many hidden Christians, and we want to help them live in the Jewish culture – says Neuhaus to SIR –, but this takes lots of religious sensitivity and respect for both Jews and Palestinians. Our communities, we have four, in Haifa, Beersheva, Jerusalem and Tel Aviv, can act as a bridge between the different components of this land. In this job, the role of silence and hidden prayer is essential too for the whole Israeli society". Father Neuhaus's office is off to a good start, with Benedict XVI's forthcoming visit: "we asked to have a moment with the Pope – the Jesuit admits smilingly –, but we only want to spend a moment with him, we are not asking for a special moment". There are between 200 and 400 Catholic devotees of Jewish expression in Israel. 2.http://www.passia.org/images/meetings/2005/David-Neuhaus.htm 3.http://religiousstudies.bethlehem.edu/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=43&Itemid=27 Converted at age 26, born in South Africa; my God, what kind of horrible experiences did he have as a Jew there to convince him to become a Jesuit? He should have stayed there! A RESEARCH FELLOW AT HARTMANN INSTITUTE IN JERUSALEM: WATCH OUT THERE! 4. http://search.barnesandnoble.com/The-Land-the-Bible-and-History/Alain-Marchadour/e/9780823226597/?itm=3 A book he wrote: LAND, BIBLE AND HISTORY: touches upon everything we have been discussing. Synopsis This unique book offers a Catholic view of the Holy Land in the debate that rages among Jews, Christians, and Muslims. Alain Marchadour and David Neuhaus, two biblical scholars and priests living in Jerusalem, clearly analyze the Promised Land—as concept, history, and contested terrain—in Catholic teaching and doctrine. They offer an analytical reading of the entire Christian Bible (Old and New Testaments) with reference to the idea of the Land promised by God. They explore early and medieval attitudes, especially with regard to the Holy Places and the Jewish people. Moving carefully to the present day, they focus on anti-Semitism, the tragedy of the Shoah, Western colonialism in the Middle East, the creation of the State of Israel, and the birth of the Palestinian refugee problem as they examine Catholic reactions to the tumultuous events of the nineteenth and twentieth centuries, particularly the renewal of Catholic thought in the aftermath of the Second Vatican Council. Studying the most recent Church documents, Marchadour and Neuhaus confront the ongoing struggle for peace, justice, and reconciliation in the Middle East. So here is another Meshumad, JESUIT David Neuhaus, after FRANCISCAN David Yaeger, and CARDINAL Lustiger, who is right in the middle of all this conflict, and ON THE SIDE OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH OF COURSE. THIS IS ANOTHER WAY THEY GET US; THEY TAKE CONVERTS, disenchanted with being Jewish, self-hating Jews, now self-hating ISRAELIS, a la Vanunu,  for whatever reason, early childhood experiences, family abuse, who knows, and turn them into the WORST TROJAN HORSE POSSIBLE AGAINST AM YISRAEL. Note that all three of these mentioned have been heavily involved in this struggle: 1.FRANCISCAN DAVID YAEGER as a CANON LAW SPECIALIST as far as the FUNDAMENTAL AGREEMENT AND ALL SUBSEQUENT AGREEMENTS. 2. CARDINAL LUSTIGER, WITH HIS ENGAGING PERSONALITY ( RAV STEINSALTZ KNOWS HIM VERY WELL), IN INTERFAITH MEETINGS, DANGLING THE CARROT, and now 3. JESUIT DAVID NEUHAUS, BIBLICAL SCHOLAR, SPECIALIST OF THE HOLY PLACES, FELLOW AT THE HARTMANN INSTITUTE, WROTE A BOOK ON THE STRUGGLE FOR JERUSALEM, NOW IN CHARGE OF CATHOLIC JEWS IN ISRAEL. WHAT"S GOING ON HERE? WHAT ARE THEY PLANNING? We have to be aware of this tactic they have. Specially in view of THIS : " The Church appeals to the  religious and  civilian authorities of the countries where Christians are a minority,   that they respect their right to practice their cult, to  preach, and to  engage in charity work, without being troubled or stopped". This came out of the CATHOLIC CHURCH NEWS YESTERDAY, MARCH 26th, 2009 ( from S.I.R.). Now remember that there was a working meeting of the commission YESTERDAY in ISRAEL. And they JUST A WEEK AGO, MARCH 19th, INSTALLED THIS NEW "CATHOLIC JEW" as a Trojan Horse right in the middle of Israel, and a JESUIT TO BOOT. This it typical of sneaky Jesuit tactics: what do they plan next; MASS CONVERSIONS OF ISRAELI JEWS TO CATHOLICISM??? We need to be aware of all this. IT SMELLS VERY BAD. DS

PENETRATING observation and analysis, which I had totally missed, that hit the nail on the head.That is why we always run into a brick wall with the gov., and ONE MORE REASON TO URGENTLY OPPOSE ANY AND ALL DEALS WITH THE CHURCH RELATING TO JERUSALEM!

SHMUEL WROTE:

Think about the following...

Until the "UN" allowed... the birth of Israel, at not time there was in the past a Jewish Government that allocated the Land  of Israel to anyone. 

After the Romans usurped our Land, the Vatican and others allocated onto themselves what the Romans usurped but...

NO JEWISH GOVERNMENT approved that.

According to International Law they could not claim ownership.

Consequently THEY allowed... the creation of the so called state so they could finally bribe the unJews to sign away to them what they stole.

That is the only reason they supported the "creation" of the State.

To install by bribery and blackmail and murder a so called "sovereign" government in Eretz Israel from which officially they could "receive" our land... 

 

IMPORTANT: DO YOU CARE? The schedule of the pope: just came out today. THE PLAN, according to this agency: TO PRAY TO THE VIRGIN MARY IN A"MINYAN" AT HAR TZION, DIASPORA YESHIVA! other news too.

1.         http://www.asianews.it/index.php?l=en&art=14836&geo=1&size=A#

S.I.R.:

08:36 - HOLY LAND: LATIN PATRIARCHATE, THE PROGRAMME OF BENEDICT XVI'S VOYAGE (2)

"Day 4: Monday, May 11th, Tel Aviv (Ben Gurion Airport): Welcome Ceremony; Jerusalem (Presidential Palace): Courtesy Visit to the President of Israel; Jerusalem (Notre Dame Centre): Greeting to the Religious Leaders of Jerusalem. Day 5: Tuesday, May 12th, Jerusalem (Mosque Esplanade): Visit to the Gran Mufti; Jerusalem (Hechal Shlomo Centre): Visit to the Chief Rabbinate; Jerusalem (Cenacle): Regina Coeli Prayer with Ordinaries of the Holy Land; Jerusalem (Josafat Valley): Holy Mass. Day 6: Wednesday, May 13th, Bethlehem (Presidential Palace): Welcome Ceremony; Bethlehem (Manger Square): Holy Mass; Bethlehem (Aida Refugee Camp): Visit to the Refugee Camp; Bethlehem (Presidential Palace): Farewell Ceremony. Day 7: Thursday, May 14th, Nazareth (Mount of Precipice): Holy Mass; Nazareth (Auditorium): Greeting to the Religious Leaders of Galilee; Nazareth (Basilica of the Annunciation): Vespers with the Ordinaries, Priests, Religious Men and Women, Church Movements and Pastoral Operators of Galilee. Day 8: Friday, May 15th, Jerusalem (Greek Orthodox Patriarchate): Ecumenical Meeting at the Greek Orthodox Patriarchate; Jerusalem (Holy Sepulchre): Visit to the holy Sepulchre; Jerusalem (Armenian Patriarchal Church): Visit to the Armenian Patriarchal Church; Tel Aviv (Ben Gurion Airport): Farewell Ceremony".

Regina Coeli:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regina_Coeli:

They are planning to PRAY TO THE VIRGIN MANY AT THE HAR TZION YESHIVA

Different version:

ZENIT:

At noon, the Holy Father will pray in the Cenacle, where Jesus held his Last Supper. And then he will visit the Latin patriarchate of Jerusalem to meet and lunch with the Catholic ordinaries of the Holy Land. That evening he will visit Gethsemane and celebrate a solemn Mass.

Ordinaries are their regular galechim.

2.         http://www.zenit.org/phprint.php

Thursday 26 March 2009

11:52 - RELIGIOUS FREEDOM: DE AGAR (SANTA CROCE), "A UNIVERSAL, IMPERATIVE RIGHT"

One must bear in mind that "when no mutuality is obtained, what is denied is after all a freedom which everyone, anywhere, is entitled to". The respect of religious freedom is "a universal, imperative right". It was said this morning by José Martin de Agar, law professor at Pontificia Università della Santa Croce, which promoted a workshop on "Religious freedom and mutuality". According to the professor, "mutuality must be asked for but it can hardly be wanted". "There's no room then for a negative, retaliatory mutuality. A positive mutuality could instead be proposed", "that is, a mutuality based on the fact that what is taken should also be given". But, at the same time – added De Agar –, one must bear in mind that, when the principle of mutuality is not guaranteed, there is "a right that does exist but is not respected". "On these grounds – went on the professor –, the Church appeals to the religious and civilian authorities of the countries where Christians are a minority, that they respect their right to practice their cult, to preach, and to engage in charity work, without being troubled or stopped". This is also an appeal to the states where the majority of the population is Christian, that "they ask the countries where Christians are a minority to respect them in their religious life". Great; now LANDER and TOURO colleges are also being infected by INTERFAITH MEETINGS WITH THE CATHOLIC CHURCH!!: Thursday 26 March 2009 18:16 - CATHOLICS-JEWS: MEETING OF THE ARCHBISHOP OF PARIS WITH THE US ORTHODOX COMMUNITY : you can see where that leads, if the WJC is involved! "Know the modern Jewish Orthodox schools, deepen mutual dialogue and promote a common ethical commitment." These are the goals of the voyage undertaken from March 23 to yesterday by the Archbishop of Paris, Card. André Vingt-Trois, who visited the United States, accompanied by a delegation of Catholic Cardinals and Bishops from Europe, Asia and Africa, to meet the teachers of the modern Jewish Orthodox schools. A statement released by the Archdiocese of Paris reported that on March 23 "the bishops and the cardinals were received at the Jewish Heritage Museum of New York by Rabbi Bernard Lander, founding president of Touro College, whose universities are forming some 25,000 students across the world. Of them, more than 10,000 are attending a twofold course in Jewish tradition and secular science." The delegation then visited the 'Holocaust by Bullet', which is presenting the works of the French Foundation "Yahad in Unum" on the massacres perpetrated in the Eastern European countries during the Nazi occupation. According to the foundation, some 3 million people were killed. Then they attended a "workshop on the formation of young believers in the tradition and in modern times," led by Touro College professors and by distinguished Rabbis, including Israel Singer, former president of the World Jewish Congress." (continued) Those are the worst: we should fear these meshumadim, there are none as evil: Israeli Jesuit! Friday 20 March 2009 13:45 - HOLY LAND: AN ISRAELI JESUIT IS THE NEW DIRECTOR OF THE CATHOLIC COMMUNITIES OF JEWISH EXPRESSION The Jesuit father David Neuhaus is the new director of the Catholic communities of Jewish expression in Israel. He was appointed on March 17th by the Latin Patriarch of Jerusalem, Fouad Twal; he replaces the current Custodian of the Holy Land, father Pierbattista Pizzaballa, who has ended his office. The new patriarchal vicar is Israeli, 41 years old, and since 2007 he has been in charge of the community of Haifa. In addition, he teaches Holy Scriptures at the seminary of the Latin Patriarchate in Beit Jala and at the University of Bethlehem. "In Israel, there are many hidden Christians, and we want to help them live in the Jewish culture – says Neuhaus to SIR –, but this takes lots of religious sensitivity and respect for both Jews and Palestinians. Our communities, we have four, in Haifa, Beersheva, Jerusalem and Tel Aviv, can act as a bridge between the different components of this land. In this job, the role of silence and hidden prayer is essential too for the whole Israeli society". Father Neuhaus's office is off to a good start, with Benedict XVI's forthcoming visit: "we asked to have a moment with the Pope – the Jesuit admits smilingly –, but we only want to spend a moment with him, we are not asking for a special moment". There are between 200 and 400 Catholic devotees of Jewish expression in Israel.

Did you see this?! That's what this traitor did, and is waiting for an answer. Now that Netanyahu committed himself to all previous offers, I guess it is in the lap of Bibi, and the offer still stands. Am I understanding correctly?

19:05 , 03.26.09

Print Negotiations Olmert waiting for an answer Photo: AFP click here to enlarge text click here to reduce text				Final offer: J'lem concessions and settler evictions Olmert explains offer from Sept. 2008, to which Abbas has yet to respond, which would grant Palestinians 93% of W. Bank and parts of the capital Roni Sofer Prime Minister Ehud Olmert attempted to clarify Thursday alleged promises he had made in a so-called 'final offer' to Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas in September 2008, which included the eviction of tens of thousands of settlers and territorial concessions in Jerusalem.   Close, but no cigar Assad: We were within reach of peace deal  / Nir Magal Syrian president tells Italian newspaper La Repubblica Turkish-mediated talks with Israel brought countries very close to agreement after PM Olmert expressed willingness to withdraw from Golan Heights. 'The Israelis' turn to the right is the greatest obstacle to peace,' he says Full Story "There was one point when I put things on the table and offered Abbas something that had never been offered and dealt with the crux of the problem, with the most sensitive issues that touch the most exposed nerves and historical obstacles," Olmert said during a Thursday conference in Herzliya.   "I told him – 'let's sign.' It was half a year ago and I'm still waiting," he said.   Senior officials said that a meeting of the leaders in the Prime Minister's resident in Jerusalem involved a "final offer to end the conflict." The offer involved a future border between a possible Palestinian state to Israel, involving the eviction of the more than 60,000 settlers living beyond the security barrier in the West Bank – the proposed new border between the two entities.   The offer involved a return of 93% of the West Bank, leaving in Israel the large population centers, such as Ariel and Elkanah in the north, Maaleh Adumim in the center, and Jerusalem and Gush Etzion in the south.   Regarding Jerusalem itself, Olmert offered to cede over to the Palestinians the peripheral neighborhoods and the refugee camps surrounding the city, such as Kalandia. The holy sites, whose sovereignty is desired by all faiths, would be determined within an international framework, the prime minister said.   The plan was also presented to the Americans who, according to the Prime Minister's Office, supported the plan. They apparently also expressed optimism that the offer would be acceptable to the Palestinians.   "Sadly, to this day, the prime minister has not recent an answer from Abbas to the generous offer, which was designed to bring an end to negotiations between Israel and the Palestinian Authority and bring about the creation of two states for two peoples."   Back

In honor of Rosh Chodesh Nissan, here is the LETTER WRITTEN BY THE SANHEDRIN to all members of the Israeli government. Together with the letter is my article, PERFECT CRIME. NOW it is OK to publish far and wide; Chodesh Tov, and thank you. DS

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 PERFECT CRIME:
THE VATICAN'S PLOT
TO ROB AM YISRAEL OF JERUSALEM

"THE SECRET MACHINATIONS OF THE VATICAN AND ITS ALLIES IN ISRAEL";  PART II - 2009

by Daisy J. Stern, MD

Copyright, all rights reserved.

March 22, 2009

B"H

PREFACE

Quotes:

"My rebbe once said: everyone thinks of Esav as a barbarian in loin cloth carrying a club a la caveman,  a bloodthirsty monster... but really Esav was able to cleverly disguise his evil in the cloak of respectability: he was a cultured and well-mannered rogue; the perfect depiction is of a proper British lord, smooth and polite,  ever the image of civility and proper etiquette, the perfect gentleman one never suspects to be a sinister, fire breathing dragon...and therefore one never sees the knife coming in to stab you in the back until it is much too late."

Anonymous


"In his sixteenth century treatise entitled, "The Prince," Niccolo Machiavelli wrote those words advising his prince of the "virtues" he must exercise in ruling his kingdom:

"even though on the inside he is able to scheme, he should appear to him who sees and hears him altogether merciful, faithful, humane, upright and religious."

(Michael Franzese, Newsmax)



Summary:

In this paper I describe the history of the secret agreements between Israel and the Vatican, how the Vatican manipulated and deceived the Jews into entering into these negotiations, how it interfered with the political process in Israel in order to gain sovereignty over Land in Israel it considers belongs to the Church; how these secret deals went on behind the back of the Jewish People and are about to be finalized before the visit of Benedict XVI to Israel;  the consequences of finalizing the agreement -  internationalization of Jerusalem,  abandonment of Jewish sovereignty over its Divine inheritance to the Catholic Church, and permanent establishment of the Holy German Empire with the pope at its helm in Jerusalem; as well as the consequences of refusing to sign the final papers - worldwide, raging anti-Semitism, and loss of diplomatic relations with the Vatican.

 I also urge the Jewish People to force the Israeli government to REFUSE TO SIGN the papers,  leave the lands of the Diaspora urgently, and come to Israel before all hell breaks loose for Jews all over the world.

1. INTRODUCTION

Back in 2006, I wrote an essay called  "THE SECRET MACHINATIONS OF THE VATICAN AND ITS ALLIES IN ISRAEL, 2006", about the Vatican and the traitors among us, and  the Catholic Church's attempt to deprive the Jewish People of its rightful inheritance and historical homeland, Eretz Yisrael, - in particular the desire to snatch away our 3000 year old capital, Jerusalem. Even though I had gathered quite a bit of information for my essay then, I am afraid the total picture escaped me at the time. Now, however, after a lot more reading, investigation ,and in-depth analysis, I can with certainty share some shocking conclusions that are not obvious at first glance, and which most serious writers about this topic have apparently missed as well.

The way I arrived at these conclusions is by carefully checking the TIMELINE of various historical developments reported since 1990. The sources for these events are very disparate, and so, unless one goes and searches very carefully , the threads linking these events are not at all evident. Once one connects the dots, however, the picture that starts to emerge is quite clear, and very alarming, to say the least.

In order to really understand the total picture, make sure to read the article just mentioned, THE SECRET MACHINATIONS OF THE VATICAN AND ITS ALLIES IN ISRAEL, 2006: it will give you essential information, and a background on the players in this saga. I will not go over those details again, as time is of the essence.

The article can be found on my blog,  ISRAEL TRUTH TIMES, at the link:

http://israeltruthtimes.blogspot.com/


So let me begin, but not before thanking the unwitting contributors to this paper, who are listed in the extensive bibliography at the end of this text.

Thank you to all of you, even the ones who certainly would have preferred NOT to contribute to this article!



2. HOW IT ALL BEGAN


Since the time of the Crusades, the Vatican had entrusted the CUSTODY of the HOLY LAND to the Franciscan Order in Jerusalem. Their function, essentially, consisted of helping the local Catholic population, as well as of watching over the properties the Church considered hers.

 Now of course, let us not forget HOW those properties came about to belong to the Church in the first place: after the SACKING OF JERUSALEM BY ROME, which happened by  PURE FORCE , BRUTALITY, AND UNSPEAKABLE HORRORS inflicted on the JEWISH POPULATION OF ISRAEL,  the likes of which history has scant comparison for, AND AFTER ROBBING THE JEWISH PEOPLE OF ALL ITS POSSESSIONS, - the depiction of which is found to this day on the ARCH OF TITUS IN ROME, - and following  the subsequent desolation of Judea, Samaria and all of the Land of Israel, various rulers assumed ownership of the Land, and felt free to trade in it as though it belonged to them, which of course it did not. STOLEN PROPERTY CANNOT BE TRADED AT WILL. TITLE TO STOLEN PROPERTY SOLD BY A THIEF IS INVALID AND ILLEGAL NO MATTER HOW YOU LOOK AT IT. For example, take Madoff's investors: even though they unwittingly, innocently and unknowingly came to possess stolen goods, they nevertheless have to return the loot. So much cannot be stated of the Catholic Church, which knew perfectly well  that the goods and real estate in Jerusalem , Judea, the Galilee, etc, were STOLEN PROPERTY, yet still claimed, and claims, ownership for it all even after 2000 years . ESAV WILL NOT WILLINGLY RETURN THE BLESSING OF ERETZ YISRAEL TO JACOB. REMEMBER, ROME IS ESAV - and I would venture to add, ROME HAS PROVEN BY ITS BEHAVIOR THAT IT IS AMALEK AS WELL.

In addition, let us not forget the brutality and massacres inflicted by the Crusaders on the local Jewish population.

Still, to simplify things , let's say that the Franciscans were responsible for watching over the properties claimed by the Church as its own in the Holy Land, Eretz Yisrael.

Now AFTER THE DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE OF ISRAEL IN 1948, the Church started worrying about its possessions. Specially since 1967 and the RETURN OF AM ISRAEL TO ITS SACRED INHERITANCE, in particular to HAR HABAYIT AND ALL OF JERUSALEM, the Vatican became more and more concerned: not only was  JEWISH SOVEREIGNTY over Jerusalem A SLAP IN THE FACE OF CATHOLICISM, the Vatican was also worried about ownership and political sovereignty, with just reason; so it devised a very detailed, sly and elaborate plan to recoup its sovereignty over Jerusalem and the rest of Israel. Not only that, but it decided that JERUSALEM HAD TO BE INTERNATIONALIZED. In addition to that, the ancient dreams of revival of the Holy Roman Empire Of Charlemagne with its seat in Jerusalem never died, as a matter of fact, are alive as ever in this pope's mind. TO SUPPLANT JUDAISM AND MAKE THE POPE THE SUPREME RELIGIOUS AND TEMPORAL POWER OF THE RENEWED HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE IS THE GOAL. For this , I will refer you to the end of this essay, which has a lot of links, quotes, and information. Be ready for some long and good reading!

How did Rome go about doing this?

This is where deception comes in big time:

On the one hand, the Church, with its prelates, bishops, cardinals, popes, and its CANON LAW, all of a sudden became a big DEVOTEE OF INTERNATIONAL LAW AND INTERNATIONAL AGREEMENTS. Imagine for a minute a CHIEF RABBI who, instead of delving into  HALACHAH, all of a sudden  CLAIMS SECULAR LAW as the supreme rule of the land: wouldn't you think something is awfully fishy here? Of course, it is.

And how is that fishy in the pope's case?

Because, as the Custodian of the Holy Land claims in a recent article, THE WHOLE THING IS NOTHING BUT A SHAM, A TOOL FOR THE VATICAN TO OBTAIN, VIA INTERNATIONAL LAW, WHAT IT CANNOT OBTAIN OTHERWISE.

In addition, the Church, this ever combative and  dictatorial political entity, responsible for the killing and murder of countless MILLIONS OF JEWS, PROTESTANTS, and other UNDESIRABLE persons, suddenly becomes THE VOICE OF LOVE, PEACE AND REASON:

WE LOVE EVERYBODY, EVERYBODY IS OUR FRIEND, WE HAVE NO ENEMIES, ALL WE WANT IS PEACEFUL RESOLUTION OF INTERNATIONAL CONFLICTS, USING INTERNATIONAL LAW AND U.N. RESOLUTIONS, WE SHUN FUNDAMENTALISM, WE EMBRACE ECUMENISM.

THE WHOLE THING IS  A CON JOB by a very sly and deceitful entity, designed to ENSNARE UNSUSPECTING JEWS, RABBIS, AND THE ISRAELI GOVERNMENT INTO RELEASING ERETZ YISRAEL TO THE VATICAN. It is similar to the Fable de la Fontaine, Le CORBEAU ET LE RENARD:

http://fr.wikisource.org/wiki/Le_Corbeau_et_le_Renard

Le Corbeau et le Renard

Maître Corbeau, sur un arbre perché,
Tenait en son bec un fromage.
Maître Renard, par l'odeur alléché,
Lui tint à peu près ce langage :
« Hé ! bonjour, Monsieur du Corbeau.
Que vous êtes joli ! que vous me semblez beau !
Sans mentir, si votre ramage
Se rapporte à votre plumage,
Vous êtes le Phénix des hôtes de ces bois. »
À ces mots le Corbeau ne se sent pas de joie :
Et pour montrer sa belle voix,
Il ouvre un large bec, laisse tomber sa proie.
Le Renard s'en saisit, et dit : « Mon bon Monsieur,
Apprenez que tout flatteur
Vit aux dépens de celui qui l'écoute.
Cette leçon vaut bien un fromage, sans doute. »
Le Corbeau honteux et confus,
Jura, mais un peu tard, qu'on ne l'y prendrait plus.

I hope you understand French.


 UNFORTUNATELY THE JEWS FELL FOR the deception.

So let's see  what the PLOT is all about. Once we know the PLOT OF THE FOX -("le renard") , i.e. the VATICAN, LET'S NOT ALLOW THE CHEESE, ("le fromage") , i.e. JERUSALEM, TO FALL FROM OUR COLLECTIVE BEAK.




3.THE PLOT

Until the creation of the State of Israel in 1948, the Catholic Church , in 2000 years of torture, antisemitism, Inquisitions, Holocaust, pogroms, had never shown the slightest love, concern for, or interest in the Jewish People. On the contrary, according to Catholic theology and doctrine, Jews were singled out for eternal damnation and exile from their Land for the crime of "DEICIDE" , killing "god", and deserved the eternal opprobrium and punishment meted out by the "faithful".

But now, with Church properties in Jewish hands, and the Jews back in at least part of the Holy Land, the Church had to tread carefully: on one hand the theological contradiction was insufferable , on the other hand properties once in Catholic hands were all of a sudden at the mercy of the Jews. So the Church "FOUND RELIGION". In 1965, pope Paul VI drafted the revolutionary Vatican document NOSTRA AETATE,

http://www.vatican.va/archive/hist_councils/ii_vatican_council/documents/vat-ii_decl_19651028_nostra-aetate_en.html

which speaks for itself. Please read it. In short, it advocates tolerance for other religions, in particular other Christian branches, Judaism and Islam. It also recommends DIALOGUE with other religions and understanding, in short, ecumenism, and the rejection of antisemitism as well as the accusation of deicide. You have to understand that this is an absolute tsunami , considering the traditional "DOCTRINE OF THE FAITH" ( which the current pope Benedict XVI, as past CHIEF INQUISITOR, secretly supports despite his denials to the contrary - proof later)

There might have been a true element of remorse among some clergy after the Holocaust, we have to give them credit; still, this new approach has to be seen in the context of subsequent developments. After the Six Day War of 1967 and the unexpected victory of Israel over its enemies, Vatican worry obviously increased dramatically. Already in 1970, a  commission was formed in the Vatican, and a special department created in 1974, with the express goal of reaching out to DIASPORA Jews, cynically playing on Jewish feelings of trauma and devastation from the Holocaust, and offering Jews  rejection of anti-semitism,  a chance for DIALOGUE through the institution of the INTERNATIONAL CATHOLIC JEWISH LIAISON COMMITTEE -ILC, and POSSIBLE RECOGNITION OF THE STATE OF ISRAEL, apparently "for free" at the beginning: THE CHURCH ACTED AS THOUGH IT HAD DONE TESHUVAH, CHANGED ITS SPOTS, AND SUDDENLY  BECOME SAINTLY, WHEN IN FACT THOSE ILC MEETINGS WERE ALL PART OF A CALCULATED MACHIAVELLIAN PLOT.

More and more meetings took place, and the INTRIGUE PROGRESSED in earnest from 1990 on: that is when the plot thickens.

Please read the links provided at the end of the article: you will see that this whole DIALOGUE AND PEACE CHARADE was STRICTLY A CATHOLIC INITIATIVE, the Jews being wooed, wined, and dined, and naïvely believing the claims of the Church delegates in this "interfaith dialogue", except for a few "Jews" such as Edgar Bronfman of the World Jewish Congress, who acted as go-between, meeting the Catholics in the context of DIASPORA/VATICAN RELATIONS, while at the same time interfering in the ISRAELI political process.

EDGAR BRONFMAN is in a league with Yossi Beilin and Shimon Peres: THEY ALL ACTED AS AGENTS FOR THE VATICAN WHILE APPEARING TO WORK FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE JEWS!!!

It is very interesting to watch the progression of the topics discussed during the various meetings taking place : starting with "TESHUVAH" for the Church's role in the Holocaust and before; while discussing easy topics such as common family values; then, AFTER 15 whole years of GAINING JEWISH CONFIDENCE, first approaching the subject of LAND and Church properties in Israel!

In order to fulfill these goals, the Church also actively worked in the international sphere, becoming active in PEACE INITIATIVES, such as the Madrid Conference in 1991 - see the letters the pope wrote to Bush and Gorbachev, the "apparent" organizers of the conference. It is noteworthy that the Vatican, despite claiming to NOT interfere with territorial and political issues, in fact CONSTANTLY INTERFERES and intervenes, through intrigue, letters, pressure on political leaders, etc.

At the same time, in the SUMMER OF 1991 , even BEFORE THE LABOR PARTY WAS IN POWER, and before the Madrid Conference, the Church ALREADY APPROACHED YOSSI BEILIN, via the MESHUMAD ISRAELI FR. DAVID YAEGER, to start negotiations about Jerusalem; according to Yossi Beilin himself, the only thing that REALLY INTERESTED the Church was PROPERTIES, LAND, THINGS, while ISRAEL WANTED RECOGNITION - and while the DIASPORA JEWS WANTED FREEDOM FROM PERSECUTION.

HONESTLY, the Church behaved like a woman MARRYING FOR MONEY!

At any rate, by the time election time came in Israel, the VATICAN ALREADY HAD A WORKING RELATIONSHIP WITH YOSSI BEILIN. Now do you understand the deception involved? Most deceptively, a ILC CONFERENCE TOOK PLACE IN BALTIMORE IN 1992, in which the head of the Jewish delegation, "happened " to be EDGAR BRONFMAN (CFR member) ,  who simultaneously 'happened" to INTERFERE IN THE ISRAELI ELECTIONS, BY ARRANGING MEETINGS BETWEEN YOSSI BEILIN AND ARAFAT'S MEN , TO PROMISE THE PLO SOME SORT OF A STATE IN "Palestine" in EXCHANGE FOR THE ARAB VOTE FOR THE LABOR PARTY IN ISRAEL!  In effect,  BRONFMAN, AS AGENT OF THE VATICAN, and acting as a go-between, ACTIVELY INTERFERED IN THE ISRAELI ELECTION PROCESS AND HELPED ELECT YITSHAK RABIN AND SHIMON PERES! And the whole purpose of this choice was so that the transfer of Jerusalem and other properties to the Church could proceed!

At the same time, cruelly playing on Jewish suffering,  and in the context of "TESHUVAH' for the expulsion from Spain 500 years earlier, at that Baltimore conference  with the DIASPORA JEWS, the Vatican  became more demanding , and for the first time broached the subject of Catholic properties in Israel.

So we see that the Vatican intefered with the Israeli elections, and then USED THE DIASPORA JEWS TO INFLUENCE ISRAEL; also  USED THE CONCERNS OF THE DIASPORA JEWS -ANTISEMITISM , AND THE CONCERN OF THE ISRAELI GOVERNMENT - RECOGNITION OF ISRAEL, AS  BARGAINING CHIPS FOR THE LAND OF ISRAEL!

Right after putting Peres and Beilin in office,  the Church got their cooperation to start the TRANSFER OF CHURCH PROPERTIES TO THE VATICAN. It seems that Rabin just 'happened' to be part of the whole deal; an EXPENDABLE ITEM, an obstacle, for all practical purposes.

That would certainly explain his murder in 1995, for all of those who DON"T BELIEVE the official version of his assassination, and DO BELIEVE THAT PERES WAS BEHIND IT. Peres, in other words, ROME.

Within one month of the election of Rabin and  Peres in June 1992, in July, the Vatican already started ACTIVE NEGOTIATIONS ABOUT CHURCH PROPERTIES -ILLEGAL,, SECRET AND ILLEGITIMATE,- with Yossi Beilin. Now don't forget that Yossi Beilin was Deputy Foreign Minister, and Shimon Peres was the Foreign Minister, so obviously Peres was in on the deal.

It is important to mention that these talks were DONE IN SECRET, AND NOT APPROVED BY THE KNESSET, yet left FOOTPRINTS in the form of DOCUMENTS DRAFTED, albeit with deception, I would even say under duress, and illegally.

What WAS NOT SUPPOSED TO LEAVE a footprint were the PARALLEL TALKS OF SHIMON PERES GOING ON DIRECTLY WITH THE POPE, about Church properties. Those talks took place at the Vatican between Peres and the pope,  or in the form of SECRET hand-delivered LETTERS written BY PERES, or later in 2006, in a letter from OLMERT  HAND -DELIVERED BY PERES DIRECTLY TO THE POPE.

These SECRET CHANNELS that Peres handled are UNACCOUNTED FOR. THEY ARE THE MOST DAMAGING AND ILLEGAL, AND OF COURSE INVALID ONES. In them, according to reliable documents ( see links), Peres promised to the pope the INTERNATIONALIZATION OF JERUSALEM, which is what the "Holy See" ( not holy at all, actually, very criminal and UNHOLY SEE) demands.

As an example; when Shimon Peres went to the Vatican in April 2006, barely a week after Olmert's "election", and while carrying a secret letter to the pope, which was NEVER SHOWN TO THE MEDIA, he had an audience of 40 minutes with the pope, an extraordinary long meeting by pope standards.

While PERES CLAIMED that the meeting showed the interest of the pope in Israel, in fact, MOST OF THE MEETING CONSISTED OF NEGOTIATIONS ABOUT THE CHURCH PROPERTIES IN ISRAEL. This is a typical example of DISHONESTY and DECEIT on the part of the KADIMA GANG.

Another OUTRAGEOUS EXAMPLE of Kadima deception is the fact during the "official" channel WORKING GROUP between the Foreign Office of the State of Israel and the Vatican since 2006, the ISRAELI representative FOR THE RELIGIOUS MINISTRY IS AN ARAB, BAHIJ MANSOUR. Of course the non-Jew will be willing to give away JEWISH PATRIMONY TO THE CHURCH!



4. PROGRESS OF THE NEGOTIATIONS


Very remarkable is the fact that negotiations since December 20, 1993, the date the FUNDAMENTAL AGREEMENT between Israel and the Vatican was signed, were stalled significantly , despite the signing of the LEGAL PERSONALITY AGREEMENT in 1997. For the agreements themselves and definitions, see the links at the end of the article.

Of importance is the fact that a number of very significant issues were left untouched, for obvious reasons: none of the items signed away by Yossi Beilin had any validity according to Israeli law, and accordingly were illegitimate. But the Vatican signed these agreements at the highest levels of government: the Secretary of State is the highest person in Vatican hierarchy after the pope himself. Of course these agreements were designed, by the Vatican, for maximal effect.

The legal personality agreement GAVE AWAY an extremely important RIGHT to the Catholic Church: that of being allowed to SUE in Israeli courts for its properties, something that prior to 1997 was absolutely ILLEGAL in ISRAEL: until then,ONLY THE GOVERNMENT COULD DECIDE WHAT WOULD BECOME OF ISRAELI TERRITORY, and not the CLEARLY BIASED LEFTIST COURT SYSTEM OF ISRAEL, which incidentally also has strong ties to the Vatican, making it the perfect forum for disputes between the Catholic Church and Jewish claims.

David Levy, by signing that document, GAVE AWAY THAT RIGHT.

But since then, negotiations had stalled, the Vatican was clearly losing patience with Israel. Not stranger to interfering with Israeli governance, it appears that it ONCE AGAIN DECIDED TO ACT, when things weren't advancing properly: TIME TO PUT PERES  BACK INTO POWER!

SO here comes KADIMA, and here is WHERE ARIEL SHARON 'S STROKE, and THE CRIMINALLY NEGLIGENT MISMANAGEMENT OF HIS TREATMENT - take it from a PHYSICIAN!- COMES IN oh, but SO HANDY FOR THE CHURCH; specially CONSIDERING THAT NUNCIO PIETRO SAMBI, AFTER EIGHT AND A HALF YEARS OF FAITHFUL SERVICE IN JERUSALEM, WAS SUDDENLY ORDERED TO BE TRANSFERRED TO THE UNITED STATES ONLY ONE DAY BEFORE SHARON HAS HIS STROKE .

Just this week, one Arab got 6 years in jail for attempting to poison Jews with a tasteless, colorless powder in Jerusalem: if a STUPID ARAB can do it, WHAT ABOUT THE HIGHLY SOPHISTICATED CATHOLIC CHURCH AND ALL ITS ALLIES IN ISRAEL, I ASK YOU?? And by the way, how would you like to know the most common tasteless, colorless poison used to poison dogs - ( and who knows how many more humans) : how about RAT POISON?

WHAT DO YOU THINK RAT POISON IS: HOW ABOUT COUMADIN, a colorless, tasteless anticoagulant that will cause hemorrhages, that is, BLEEDING, in such interesting body parts as the brain, among others? AND WHAT IF I TOLD YOU THAT COUMADIN IS PRECISELY THE MEDICATION SHARON WAS TREATED WITH WITHOUT SUPERVISION, ( IN ADDITION TO HEPARIN, I WOULD ASSUME, ANOTHER ANTIGOAGULANT ) AND SENT HOME WITH TO THE NEGEV? WHAT DOSAGE WAS HE GIVEN? HOW OFTEN DID THEY DO BLOOD LEVELS, OF BOTH HEPARIN AND COUMADIN, AS REQUIRED BY MEDICAL PROTOCOL? HEPARIN LEVELS SHOULD BE CHECKED A FEW TIMES A DAY, AND COUMADIN DAILY, WHILE DOSAGE IS BEING ADJUSTED: WAS THAT DONE, OR NOT? HOW EASY WOULD IT BE TO GIVE AN EXCESSIVE DOSE OF COUMADIN, AND THEN FAIL TO TEST BLOOD LEVELS TO SEE IF THE DOSAGE IS CORRECT? WHICH DOCTOR IN HIS OR HER RIGHT MIND WOULD START A PATIENT ON COUMADIN WITHOUT CHECKING BLOOD LEVELS??

( Barry Chamish reports that Shimon Peres had tea with Ariel Sharon half and hour before his first, mild stroke: even if true, it doesn't prove anything, because the tasteless, colorless Coumadin is a SLOW -ACTING drug; what could have happened, though, is SLOW POISONING over the course of a few days PRIOR to Sharon's first stroke. Read the information on THE CUP OF BORGIA, in the last section, medical)

NOW ARE YOU PUTTING TWO AND TWO TOGETHER, OR DO YOU STILL NEED MY HELP to understand what happened???

OK. So now we are PAST the Sharon era, into KADIMA TIMES, shenanigans and manipulations at the elections level, as everybody recalls, Peres made president after HIGHLY QUESTIONABLE accusations against Moshe Katsav, - who incidentally was NOT ready to give away Har Tzion, and HAD TO GO!!…. and now it's SMOOTH SAILING FOR THE NEGOTIATION AND THE GIVEAWAY OF JERUSALEM. So easy: an ARAB put in charge of giving away Jewish holy places…. why not, so simple, really!

Fast track to 2009: NOBODY HEARS A PEEP about what's  going on: we just find out that BENEDICT XVI is coming for a visit to Israel. ONLY 10 million dollars used to prepare for his visit, among others 6 million NIS, one for every Jew killed in the Holocaust, to RENOVATE CATHOLIC HOLY PLACES. Among others, the CENACLE, which until now had BARE WALLS, because NO PARAPHERNALIA OF IDOL WORSHIP ARE ALLOWED IN A YESHIVA -that is, the Diaspora Yeshiva of Har Tzion. But no worry: RENOVATIONS HAVE ALREADY BEGUN THERE. With other words, the PROPERTIES are being READIED for the pope's arrival, turned into proper Catholic shrines, Jewish or not.

And guess what: THE CONDITION FOR HIS VISIT IS FINALIZATION OF THE AGREEMENT, WITH FINAL  SIGNATURES IN A PLENARY SESSION DUE APRIL 23, according to the VATICAN record, or EREV PESSACH, APRIL 7th, according to ZENIT, a CATHOLIC NEWS AGENCY.

( A plenary session is a session in which ALL HIGHER LEVEL PARTIES SIGN, THE VATICAN AND THE STATE OF ISRAEL). Now of course Olmert's people deny everything, but they have lied non-stop, why should they change now? They have to sign away the deal quickly before NETANYAHU's crew comes in , and finds out IN TOTAL SHOCK the hanky-panky that has been going on under the faithless watch of criminals .

To be signed away:

300 million NIS of BACKTAXES due by the CHURCH to us, the ISRAELI PEOPLE.

But even more ominously: THE CHURCH PROPERTIES THE VATICAN DEMANDS:

HAR TZION

CEASARIA CHURCH

CONVENT AT HEBREW UNIVERSITY

PROPERTIES AROUND THE KINNERET,

ETC.

ETC.

MORE TERRIBLE:

THESE PROPERTIES WILL BECOME EXTRATERRITORIAL TO ISRAEL, IF THE DEAL IS SIGNED. AND THE DEAL IS SUPPOSED TO BE VALID FOREVER, UNCHANGEABLE, PERMANENT, IRREVOCABLE: "A PERPETUITE".

EVEN WORSE:

IF THE REPORT OF PERES'S PROMISE TO THE VATICAN IS TRUE, EAST JERUSALEM IS ABOUT TO BE INTERNATIONALIZED, UNDER AUSPICES OF THE UN..

ALREADY, THE UN IS RULING IN THE OLD CITY, FORBIDDING JEWISH CONSTRUCTION.

NEXT STEP: VATICAN RULE FOREVER IN JERUSALEM UNDER THE POPE, THE UN, AND GERMANY.

We have to understand that the Church is perfectly willing to USE FORCE to IMPOSE ITS WILL, and will USE ANTISEMITISM ALL OVER IF IT DOESN"T GET ITS WAY. OF COURSE, NON-RECOGNITION OF ISRAEL WILL BE A GIVEN. WE WILL BE AT WAR WITH THE WHOLE CATHOLIC WORLD.
ON THE OTHER HAND., WE WILL GAIN THE ETERNAL GRATITUDE OF THE PROTESTANTS, WHO HAVE BEEN BITTERLY PERSECUTED BY THE CHURCH FOR CENTURIES AND DREAD PAPAL RULE.

I THINK WE NEED TO FIGHT FOR OUR PATRIMONY, FORCE THE GOVERNMENT TO REFUSE TO SIGN, AND ALERT EVERY JEW ALIVE TO HURRY AND COME BACK HOME BEFORE ALL HELL BREAKS LOOSE.

THE ALTERNATIVE: LOSE JERUSALEM , HAR HABAYIT, ERETZ YISRAEL, FOREVER.

OUR CHOICE.

5.  THE RUSSIAN CONNECTION

1. In 1989, 1990, Gorbachev was politically active, responsible for Madrid together with the US, the UN ( that equals Rome), etc. What happened since then I am not sure.Remember that he met the pope in a private and very friendly visit in 1989.

Gorbachev and Peres COOPERATE on a number of issues: however, Gorbachev is not representative for Russia at this time, but there is SYMBOLIC CONTINUATION OF THE SAME SPIRIT: SAME ACTIVITIES: see visit of Gorbachev to the pope in 1989, and of Putin in 2007.

Since 2007, PUTIN AND THE POPE have established very friendly cooperation,, they consider themselves brothers in religion, and are coordinating their activities in the Middle East.

So the recent giving away of the Russian compound to the Russians has to be seen in the context of the Vatican give-away: it is part and parcel of the same plan: THE RULERSHIP OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH, WITH THE HELP OF HER SISTER THE RUSSIAN ORTHODOX CHURCH.

I also see a direct connection between Gorbachev's visit to the Vatican and the subsequent Madrid accords. The Pope acted through Moscow as well as through the US and other channels. See also the letter he wrote to Gorbachev THE DAY BEFORE MADRID .

Daisy J. Stern., MD.
copyright 2009, all rights reserved.

        

 6. ADDENDA

Please see all my links , notes, and bibliography  below.



EVIDENCE OF BETRAYAL AND TREACHERY BY YOSSI BEILIN, SHIMON PERES, AND THE VATICAN.

INTENTION TO GIVE A LARGE PART OF JERUSALEM TO THE CATHOLIC CHURCH, AND INTERNATIONALIZE THE CITY UNDER UN AUSPICES.




I. THE OFFICIAL AGREEMENTS:

1. On the Vatican's side:

A. The Fundamental agreement -1993:

http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/secretariat_state/archivio/documents/rc_seg-st_19931230_santa-sede-israele_en.html

B.The Legal Personality agreement- 1997:

http://philologos.org/bpr/files/Vatican/vs002b.htm

C. The Vatican-PLO agreement - 1993

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Peace/plovatican.html



2. Definitions and important persons ( Vatican):

A.legal person: wikipedia.org/wiki/juristic_person

B. Secretariat of State ( Vatican)

http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/secretariat_state/documents/rc_seg-st_12101998_profile_en.html

C.Dicastery :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dicasteries

D. Prelate:http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/12386b.htm

E.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Kasper

F.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Theological_Commission

 ( as relates to:

http://www.bc.edu/research/cjl/meta-elements/texts/cjrelations/resources/documents/interreligious/joint_communique_01.htm)

G.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Idris_Cassidy

H.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Catholic-Jewish_Liaison_Committee


3. on the Israeli side:

http://www.mfa.gov.il/MFA/MFAArchive/1990_1999/1993/12/Fundamental+Agreement+-+Israel-Holy+See.htm

http://www.mfa.gov.il/MFA/MFAArchive/1990_1999/1997/11/Legal+Personality+Agreement-+State+of+Israel-Holy.htm

http://www.mfa.gov.il/mfa/foreign%20relations/treaties%20and%20agreements/



4.See also, independent agreements made between the HOLY SEE and THE JEWISH COMMUNITY REPRESENTATIVES OF THE DIASPORA.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edgar_Bronfman,_Sr.

Starting June 1991, Peres sends Yossi Beilin to Egypt 4 times to make an agreement with the PLO, promising a "Palestinian" state in exchange for the Arab vote for Rabin and Peres, thus putting Rabin into power.

CFR Edgar Bronfman later boasts of using his influence to secure Rabin's elections, believed to have arranged these meetings.

Summer of 1991, open talks with the Holy See , initiative of Archbishop Montezemolo, with Yossi Beilin

October 12, 1991, Edgar Bronfman becomes head of the World Jewish Congress

Letters on the EVE of the Madrid Conference, October 29, 1991, of the pope to Bush and Gorbachev, IN SPANISH! egging them on- :

http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/john_paul_ii/letters/1991/documents/hf_jp-ii_let_19911029_madrid-bush_sp.html

http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/john_paul_ii/letters/1991/documents/hf_jp-ii_let_19911029_madrid-gorbachov_sp.html

October 30, 1991, Madrid Conference:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madrid_Conference_of_1991

The Madrid Conference was hosted by the government of Spain and co-sponsored by the USA and the USSR [ with the pope in the background!, DS].It convened on October 30, 1991 and lasted for three days. It was an early attempt by the international community to start a peace process through negotiations involving Israel and the Palestinians as well as Arab countries including Syria, Lebanon, and Jordan......



April 1992: On April 1st, the Vatican announces that it favors a Labor victory in the June 1992 elections in Israel

A.This is how the betrayal started : Holy See -Edgar Bronfman -Israeli elections TRIANGLE!

http://www.sidic.org/en/docOnLineView.asp?class=Doc00510 ( May 7th, 1992)

Meeting for the first time in the Western Hemisphere, representatives of the IJCIC and the Holy See's Commission met in Baltimore, Maryland, on May 4-7, 1992. This was the 14th meeting of the International Catholic-Jewish Liaison Committee (ILC). The co-chairs of the ILC are Mr. Edgar Bronfman, President of the World Jewish Congress, and Edward Cardinal Cassidy, President of the Holy See's Commission.

"In the context of the day on which Jews celebrate Yom Ha Atzmauth (Israel's Independence Day, May 7), while recognizing that the question of diplomatic relations between the State of Israel and the Holy See is a matter of competence first and foremost for the Government of the State of Israel and the Vatican Secretariat of State, the Conference participants are conscious of the importance of this question also for Jewish-Catholic relations in general and express hope that significant progress in this regard will soon be achieved.....


...Of particular urgency are joint commitments to democratic principles and opposition to extreme nationalistic movements which threaten democracy. This, the Catholic side noted, was also a major theme and concern of the recent special meeting for Europe of the Synod of Bishops."


http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/judaica/ejud_0002_0011_0_10125.html
..."Relations moved further ahead as a result of a Conference of the ILC in Baltimore in 1992 when the Vatican participants proposed the establishment of joint Catholic-Jewish delegations to appear before international bodies on matters of mutual concern. They also undertook to extend to other countries the initiative of the Italian bishops who had declared that one day a year in their dioceses would be devoted to the study of Judaism and the Jewish people. In the summer of 1992, the Vatican announced the opening of discussions with Israel for the normalization of relations between the two countries toward the establishment of diplomatic ties, which was finally achieved at the end of 1993. (See*Vatican for further developments.)"

ISRAELI ELECTIONS June 23, 1992, barely 6 weeks later! RABIN AND PERES WIN!


B. Joint communique of the ILC, 2001

International Catholic - Jewish Liaison Committee 17th Meeting,New York City, May 1-3, 2001


http://www.bc.edu/research/cjl/meta-elements/texts/cjrelations/resources/documents/interreligious/holysites.htm

http://www.bc.edu/research/cjl/meta-elements/texts/cjrelations/resources/documents/interreligious/joint_communique_01.htm

http://www.bc.edu/research/cjl/meta-elements/texts/cjrelations/resources/documents/interreligious/ilcantisemitism.htm

http://www.bc.edu/research/cjl/meta-elements/texts/center/conferences/Bea_Centre_C-J_Relations_04-05/Fumagalli.htm

http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/pontifical_councils/chrstuni/relations-jews-docs/rc_pc_chrstuni_doc_20010504_new-york-meeting_en.html

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/judaica/ejud_0002_0011_0_10125.html







2. REPORT of other signed agreements and pacts,  but without documents

http://www.thetrumpet.com/index.php?q=6033.4423.0.0

http://www.joelbainerman.com/articles/vatican.asp,              see also                 http://www.joelbainerman.com/index.asp

http://beyondbabylon.blogspot.com/2006/01/vatican-agenda-by-joel-bainerman.html

http://www.israpundit.com/2008/

http://www.cdn-friends-icej.ca/medigest/june98/backgrnd.html

http://www.rense.com/general6/chamish.htm

http://www.bc.edu/research/cjl/meta-elements/texts/cjrelations/resources/documents/interreligious/joint_communique_01.htm

http://www.bc.edu/research/cjl/meta-elements/texts/cjrelations/resources/documents/interreligious/ilcantisemitism.htm

http://www.bc.edu/research/cjl/meta-elements/texts/center/conferences/Bea_Centre_C-J_Relations_04-05/Fumagalli.htm

http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/pontifical_councils/chrstuni/relations-jews-docs/rc_pc_chrstuni_doc_20010504_new-york-meeting_en.html




3.IMPORTANT HISTORICAL RECORD TO PUT EVERYTHING IN PERSPECTIVE, and do a very detailed TIMELINE:

A.CHRONOLOGY OF THE OSLO PEACE PROCESS, by Ephraim Levy

https://www.synapsenow.com/synapse/news/fullstory_public.cfm?articleid=5276&website=israelfacts.org

B, VATICAN'S ASSASSINS, by Eric Phelps,  invaluable source of historical information about the Vatican, its connection to Hitler, wonderful pictures,etc.; 3 BOOKS.

This is a very short chapter of the book:

http://www.vaticanassassins.org/pope_mount.htm

C,VATICAN CELEBRATES 80TH YEAR:

http://www.wcr.ab.ca/news/2009/0223/vatican022309.shtml

D. ABOUT GERMAN DESIGNS FOR THE HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE:

http://redmoonrising.com/chamish/Dec05.htm

E. Written by myself after months of research, sources available upon request:

THE SECRET MACHINATIONS OF THE VATICAN AND ITS ALLIES IN ISRAEL, 2006:

http://israeltruthtimes.blogspot.com/2009/02/secret-machinations-of-vatican-and-its.html

(NB: 2 typographical errors noted: Fundamental agreement signed in 1993, not 1003, and the POINTS of the agreement are 1.2.and 3.: my apologies.)

F.http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/judaica/ejud_0002_0011_0_10125.html

Shows clearly how the Vatican sneakily , gradually, dragged Israel into a phony agreement in order to "reclaim"their properties in Israel.

G. excellent summary

http://ezinearticles.com/?Mt.-Zion-Under-Siege---Who-Will-Be-King-of-the-Mountain&id=130771

http://www.davidbenariel.org/israel/vatican-linked-assassination-yitzhak-rabin.htm

http://www.davidbenariel.org/jerusalem/un-resolution-181-blueprint-beast.htm






4. Report by Yossi Beilin on the history of the agreements:

http://www.30giorni.it/us/articolo.asp?id=2324


5.  More historical information, and  TIMELINE

On the Israeli side, always go to Foreign Ministry affairs, and search., For example:

http://www.mfa.gov.il/MFA/About+the+Ministry/MFA+Spokesman/2007/Plenary%20meeting%20in%20Jerusalem%20between%20Israeli%20and%20Holy%20See%20delegations%2013

On the Catholic side:

AsiaNews:; all the way from 2004 until now, one can see the progression - and progress of the talks.


http://www.asianews.it/index.php?l=en&art=895
http://www.asianews.it/index.php?l=en&art=1088
http://www.asianews.it/index.php?l=en&art=1110
http://www.asianews.it/index.php?l=en&art=1413
http://www.asianews.it/index.php?l=en&art=1453
http://www.asianews.it/index.php?l=en&art=1454
http://www.asianews.it/index.php?l=en&art=1497
VATICAN - ISRAEL - DOSSIER
Fr. Jaeger: some issues with the government difficult but resolvable


Jerusalem (AsiaNews) - Problems with visas, taxation of religious institutions, restitution of the Cenacle: Fr. David Maria Jaeger, an Israeli Franciscan, shared his views with AsiaNews, in his capacity as a jurist and expert on Church/State relations in Israel, on the central topics of an interview with Avraham Poraz, Israeli Interior Minister.
For Minister Poraz, problem with visas are "all but resolved", thanks to involvement from the Holy See which would vouch for visa applicants.  But, for Fr. Jaeger, "In principle, from a juridical point of view, that of the rule of law, all norms regarding the issuance of entry visas and of residence permits must not be kept secret, but be officially published, so that applicants can refer to them in submitting their applications, in evaluating decisions and in considering any kind of recourse.  It is clear, that in the middle term, the question will have to be the subject of negotiations and agreement, in accordance with the Fundamental Agreement between the Holy See and the state of Israel.
"The question has been on the bilateral permanent Commission's agenda since 1994, and it would be reasonable to presume that the Commission will deal with it in the next phase of talks."
Tax exemptions for religious institutions is another open question.  The minister explained that places of worship are exempt from taxes, but not any commercial or hotel activities that may be connected to them.  All such places should, in any case, pay for municipal services such as cleaning, water, etc...
"As far as is known, the Church has never demanded anything other than the recognition of vested rights; in other words, that its legal and tax conditions not worsen with respect to those under previous regimes.  It is a matter of reconfirming a law that came into force in 1938, as well as legal and tax conditions that, by  UN order, were to be maintained following the creation of the new state.  However, just as discussions were taking place to record the contents of that law in the agreement with the Catholic Church (that is, in 2002), the Government drastically reduced the exemptions that were to be guaranteed to the Church.  This was certainly not the purpose of the law,  but one of its effects, which the agreement should now correct.  Personally, I am optimistic about the outcome of negotiations, because I cannot imagine that, right after establishing official relations at the highest level, the Government of Israel would want to go down in the history of Church/State relations in the Holy Land for having worsened the legal and tax conditions of the Catholic Church on its national territory...It would be unthinkable, and that is why I trust the Government to conclude that it must make amends for the undesired effect of recent legislation, and that it is in the national interest to respect vested rights and the will of international institutions.  Besides, the Catholic Church has never demanded any sort of exemption for purely commercial activities owned by the Church, if there are any in Israel, nor for the quantifiable consumption of utilities such as water or electricity, which are paid by everyone in proportion to actual consumption."
The minister also mentioned the return of the Cenacle and claims that the problem today "is a disagreement between Churches, on who is to take possession of it" and that the Government cannot enter into this disagreement.
"It's astonishing to hear talk of controversies between the Christian Churches," Fr. Jaeger affirms.  "They have simply never existed, as far as the Franciscan Cenacle complex is concerned.  Unlike the Nativity in Bethlehem and the Holy Sepulchre in Jerusalem, the Cenacle has never been "shared" or contested....its ownership was properly acquired by the sovereigns of Naples, Robert and Sancha, and, with the backing of Pope Clement VI, was donated to the Franciscan Order in 1342.  The convent and sanctuary thus became the mother house of the Franciscan Custody of the Holy Land.  It was the Ottoman Turks who, two centuries later, expelled the Franciscans by force.  Since then, the Franciscans have always appealed for its return to their ownership, which has never belonged to any other Christian entity, whether Catholic or non-Catholic.  And as far back as 1948, Israeli governments themselves have always recognized the Custody of the Holy Land as the sole official Christian interocutor for all questions regarding the Cenacle area.  Thus, there has never been a controversy between Christian Churches, and there must never be one, unless someone provokes one in order to "divide and rule", as they used to say in the ancient Roman Empire."
http://www.asianews.it/index.php?l=en&art=1498#

....Tax exemptions for religious intitutions was another question discussed in Tuesday's meeting.  The minister explained that measures for tax exemptions date back to the British Mandate.  The question of tax measures is part of the agenda for the implementation of the Fundamental Agreement between Israel and the Holy See.  "According to our laws -- Poraz explained -- places of worship (churches, synagogues, etc.) are exempt from taxes.  If these institutions include shops or offer accomodations for a fee, then taxes can be levied.  The only outstanding problem is concerning monasteries, where religious communities are housed.  I have decided that they should not pay taxes, but pay only for municipal services, such as cleaning, sewage, water, etc.  Municipalities need these taxes because otherwise they would not be able to offer such services."
Another matter mentioned by Poraz concerns the ownership of the Cenacle, once a property of the Franciscans, then of the Muslims and now of the Israeli government.  On the occasion of John Paul II's visit to the Holy Sites in the Holy Land, there had been talk of the possibility of returning the place of Jesus' Last Supper to the Church.
Poraz said that "the problem today is a disagreement among the various Churches on who is to take possession of it.  And Israel cannot enter into this disagreement.  The Orthodox Church and Armenian Church have the right to pray there, together with the Franciscans.  There are problems with the use of all the Holy Sites, but these are settled by the rules of the Status Quo.  There are no such rules for the Cenacle.  Everyone is expecting a decision from Israel, but there is no concrete decision yet."
http://www.asianews.it/index.php?l=en&art=1794
http://www.asianews.it/index.php?l=en&art=1999
http://www.asianews.it/index.php?l=en&art=2039
http://www.asianews.it/index.php?l=en&art=3110
http://www.asianews.it/index.php?l=en&art=4145
http://www.asianews.it/index.php?l=en&art=4649
http://www.asianews.it/index.php?l=en&art=4664

HERE, FORMATION OF THE KADIMA PARTY, NOV. 21

December 17, 2005, Pietro Sambi transferred to Washington by order of the Pope ( goes in Jan 2006)
December 18, 2005, Ariel Sharon suffers a minor stroke, is treated for it with anticoagulants , and suffers a subsequent massive stroke

http://www.asianews.it/index.php?l=en&art=4712

AFTER THAT THE ROAD IS CLEAR

http://www.asianews.it/index.php?l=en&art=7874
http://www.asianews.it/index.php?l=en&art=7977
http://www.asianews.it/index.php?l=en&art=8188
http://www.asianews.it/index.php?l=en&art=9327
http://www.asianews.it/index.php?l=en&art=10822
http://www.asianews.it/index.php?l=en&art=11010
http://www.asianews.it/index.php?l=en&art=11291
http://www.asianews.it/index.php?l=en&art=11449
http://www.asianews.it/index.php?l=en&art=11637
http://www.asianews.it/index.php?l=en&art=12037
http://www.asianews.it/index.php?l=en&art=13699
http://www.asianews.it/index.php?l=en&art=14023
http://www.asianews.it/index.php?l=en&art=14043
Holy See-Israel speeds up work ahead of Pope's visit.

http://www.asianews.it/index.php?l=en&art=14519&geo=1&theme=2&size=A

ISRAEL - VATICAN
Hope for a conclusion in Holy See-Israel talks before Pope's arrival in Holy Land
Arieh Cohen
The Bilateral Commission met yesterday. The joint communiqué speaks of "progress" towards an agreement in the making since 1999.


Jerusalem (AsiaNews) – The Bilateral Permanent Working Commission between the Holy See and the State of Israel met on Wednesday 18 February, at the seat of the Israeli Ministry of Foreign Affairs, to continue negotiating a treaty that would confirm the fiscal status of the Church in Israel, and safeguard her properties, especially the sacred places, as well as bring about restitution of some that have been lost over time. These negotiations began on 11 March 1999.
The convoy of motor vehicles with diplomatic number plates, with on board the negotiators for the Holy See, was seen arriving at the Foreign Ministry a little before 10 a.m., and leaving again a little before 1 p.m. The negotiators did not grant interviews, and only spoke, together with the Israeli Foreign Ministry, through a joint communiqué. Interest has been aroused by the fact that this time the communiqué speaks of "progress" that was achieved, beyond repeating the usual references to an atmosphere of "great cordiality" and to the shared determination to conclude the agreement "as soon as possible".  For observers, the hope is thus being offered of further progress still before the arrival of Pope Benedict XVI who is expected to come to the Holy Land as a Pilgrim in May of this year.



See also, for the missing links:

http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/orientchurch/eventi/rc_con_corient_doc_20030121_indice_eventi.html,

in particular, the declaration about the next meetings, which are taking place at great speed in March 2009. According to the Vatican, NEXT PLENARY SESSION IS SCHEDULED FOR APRIL 23th, 2009, IN ORDER TO CONCLUDE THE AGREEMENT.

AGREEMENTS ARE SIGNED AT PLENARY CONFERENCES, not working level meetings.

www.mfa.gov.il/MFA/








6. UN resolutions against Israel, re: Jerusalem that the pope is ENDORSING:

http://www.mfa.gov.il/MFA/Foreign%20Relations/Israels%20Foreign%20Relations%20since%201947/1996-1997/112%20%20United%20Nations%20General%20Assembly%20Resolution%20ES

there are more to be found on the website as well, some relevant, some less.This is the crucial one mentioned in the article from the Vatican's Assassins.


 
7. CLAIMS OF THE CHURCH FOR PROPERTIES IN ISRAEL proper, YESHA, JORDAN, etc, and the Vatican's overall strategy for obtaining what they want

http:www.christusrex.org/www1/ofm/pope/10GPen/15/15GPdo07.html

http:www.christusrex.org/www2/liberation?III-4.html

http://www.christusrex.org/www1/ofm/jub/jerus2.html

If the Holy See has no competence to enter into territorial disputes between Nations, to take sides, to seek to impose detailed solutions, on the contrary it has the right and duty of reminding the Parties of the obligation to resolve controversies peacefully, in accordance with the principles of justice and equity within the international legal framework.
In the case of Jerusalem, both aspects, the religious and the political and territorial, are closely linked, even though they are different in their constitutive elements, in the proper means of dealing with them and in finding a solution to them.
IV. What is the Holy See requesting for Jerusalem?
First of all. it asks that Jerusalem be respected for what it is in itself or rather what it should be, compared with what it actually is. That is what I defined a short while ago as the vocation or identity of the Holy City. Jerusalem is a treasure of the whole of humanity. In view of a situation of evident conflict and considering the rapid transformation of the Holy City, any unilateral solution or one brought about by force is not and cannot be a solution at all.
It is the view of the Holy See that every exclusive claim - be it religious or political - is contrary to the logic proper to the very City itself. I must insist: every citizen of Jerusalem and every person who visits Jerusalem should embody the message of dialogue, coexistence and respect evoked by the City. Exclusive claims cannot be backed up by numerical or historical criteria
Having said that, I must add that there is nothing to prevent Jerusalem, in its unity and uniqueness, becoming the symbol and the national centre of both the Peoples that claim it as their Capital. But if Jerusalem is sacred to Jews, Christians and Muslims, it is also sacred to many people from every part of the world who look to it as their spiritual capital or travel there on pilgrimage, to pray and to meet their brethren in faith. It is the cultural heritage of everybody, including those who visit it simply as tourists.
Consequently, the Holy See believes that there is an obligation to find a realistic solution to the problems of Jerusalem, to all of them, according to their particular characteristics.
There is a political problem concerning Jerusalem for Israelis and Palestinians first of all which is very practical. The Madrid Conference of 1991 and what followed gave birth to hopes of a peaceful future. Hopes founded on a willingness to talk, to negotiate and to seek to compromise. Hopes which appeared well-founded also by reason of the commitment and efforts of a large section of the international community, and in particular of the United States of America, as the events which took place at Wye Plantation in the last few days have demonstrated. Let us hope that the aspirations for dialogue and peace will contribute to the implementation of what has been agreed upon.
In this context, which is certainly both complex and delicate, the Jerusalem question has been placed at the bottom of the agenda. It is understandable that the difficulty and delicacy of the question of Jerusalem have meant that it has been left till last. But we all know, and the Israelis and the Palestinians are the first in this, that peace and coexistence in the Holy Land and Middle East have no future, unless an answer is found to the political question of Jerusalem. Allow me to quote once again from "Redemptionis Anno" of 1984, in which His Holiness Pope John Paul II wrote: "I am convinced that the failure to find an adequate solution to the question of Jerusalem, and the resigned postponement of the problem, only compromise further the longed-for peaceful and just settlement of the crisis of the whole Middle East."
What does the Holy See mean by an "adequate solution"? It means recognizing that the situation today is one of conflict. It means that Israelis and Palestinians, with the collaboration of all who can help them, have to reach an agreement which corresponds in some way to their particular legitimate and reasonable aspirations, and respects the principles of justice.
As far as the Holy See is concerned, however, the solution of a territorial dispute alone is not enough for Jerusalem, precisely because Jerusalem is an unparalleled reality: it is part of the patrimony of the whole world. And the whole world has shown that it is fully aware of this when, for example, through resolutions of the United Nations it has sought to defend that patrimony.
Looking to Jerusalem, the Holy See continues to ask that it be protected by "a special internationally guaranteed Statute". What is meant by this? In the Holy See's view:
the historical and material characteristics of the City, as well as its religious and cultural characteristics, must be preserved, and perhaps today it is necessary to speak of restoring and safeguarding those still existing;
there must be equality of rights and treatment for those belonging to the communities of the three religions found in the City, in the context of the freedom of spiritual, cultural, civic and economic activities;
the Holy Places situated in the City must be preserved, and the rights of freedom of religion and worship, and of access, for residents and pilgrims alike, whether from the Holy Land itself or from other parts of the world, must be safeguarded.
At stake is the basic question of preserving and protecting the identity of the Holy City in its entirety, in every aspect. For example, the simple "extraterritoriality" of the Holy Places, with the assurance that pilgrims would be able to visit them without hindrance, would not suffice. The identity of the City includes a sacred character which belongs not just to the individual sites or monuments, as if these could be separated from one another or isolated from the respective communities. The sacred character involves Jerusalem in its entirety, its holy places and its communities with their schools, hospitals, cultural, social and economic activities.
Israelis and Palestinians, in the desired search for a political settlement of their conflict over Jerusalem, cannot overlook the fact that the City has aspects which go far beyond their legitimate national interests. They, therefore, have to take these aspects into consideration in looking for and in reaching a lasting political and territorial solution. In the same way, they will not be able to avoid giving due consideration to the efforts and demands of all legitimately interested parties. In this, Israelis and Palestinians must not feel in any way restricted, but rather honoured and reassured.

V.

http://198.62.75.4/www1/ofm/cust/TScustos.html

Until now, their main page was quite aggressive. I guess they realized it is not a good idea to publicize what their plans are, so now they changed the look, the words , make themselves look so nice and friendly

You can see at the bottom of this page that they had that " the recovering of the holy sites" by the Franciscans:

http://198.62.75.4/opt/xampp/custodia/01cust.php

http://198.62.75.4/www1/ofm/cust/TSriscat.html: you really need to review this to understand the scope of what they claim they own.

I have a map and list of properties - In Spanish - but cannot find the website any more, please ask for them if you need them,

here is a site in Spanish that is less shy to say what they really mean:

http://www.aciprensa.com/tierrasanta/custodios.php

also some truths they know but won't say: http://chiesa.espresso.repubblica.it/articolo/38551?eng=y


8. THE RUSSIAN CONNECTION


A. ADDENDUM ABOUT THE POPE HIMSELF:

Please read THE WHOLE TEXT TO UNDERSTAND THIS POPE and his HASHKAFAH BETTER.

THIS SECTION ALSO DEALS WITH THE RUSSIAN ORTHODOX CHURCH, .

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_Benedict_XVI


Near the end of June 2007, the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith issued a document approved by Benedict XVI "because some contemporary theological interpretations of Vatican II's ecumenical intent had been 'erroneous or ambiguous' and had prompted confusion and doubt."[57] The document has been seen as restating "key sections of a 2000 text the pope wrote when he was prefect of the congregation, Dominus Iesus."[57]

The document issued on 29 June 2007 stated in part that "oriental Churches [i.e. Eastern Christianity] ...[merit the title sister Churches] Because these Churches, although separated, have true sacraments and above all – because of the apostolic succession – the priesthood and the Eucharist, by means of which they remain linked to us [Roman Catholicism] by very close bonds. ...However, since communion with the Catholic Church, the visible head of which is the Bishop of Rome and the Successor of Peter, is not some external complement to a particular Church but rather one of its internal constitutive principles, these venerable Christian communities lack something in their condition as particular churches."[58]

"These ecclesial Communities which, specifically because of the absence of the sacramental priesthood, have not preserved the genuine and integral substance of the Eucharistic Mystery cannot, according to Catholic doctrine, be called "Churches" in the proper sense." —Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith[58]

The document went on to say "Christian Communities born out of the Reformation of the sixteenth century... do not enjoy apostolic succession in the sacrament of Orders, and are, therefore, deprived of a constitutive element of the Church. These ecclesial Communities which, specifically because of the absence of the sacramental priesthood, have not preserved the genuine and integral substance of the Eucharistic Mystery cannot, according to Catholic doctrine, be called "Churches" in the proper sense."[58]


.....[57] The Russian Orthodox Church, however, called the document "honest", noting that it contains nothing new and was conducive to "an honest theological dialogue."[59] The issuing of this document and the recent allowance made by Benedict XVI for more widespread use of the traditional Tridentine Mass was seen by some of his critics as a move towards conservatism, some even "raised questions about Benedict's commitment to the changes made during the Second Vatican Council."[60]




B .Interesting:

The SERBIA connection, and how the VATICAN financed the purchase of the weapons to kill Serbs, and help the Muslims of Croatia.

Also, let's not forget how the Ustashe, who killed so many Jews, also killed hundreds of thousands Serbs.

The enemy of my enemy is my friend!

http://02varvara.wordpress.com/2009/02/19/the-pope-the-patriarch-and-the-relationship-of-the-churches/




C. The Russian connection:



On March 2007, there was a historic visit of Vladimir Putin to the Vatican, with his bishop(s). Very cordial relations,bilateral friendly ties of both churches, and COORDINATION re: THE MIDDLE EAST,( in particular ISRAEL).

1.http://www.asianews.it/index.php?l=en&art=8635

2.http://dominusjesuschristus.blogspot.com/2007_03_01_archive.html

3.MEETINGS BETWEEN HEADS OF STATE ONLY!

http://www.asianews.it/index.php?l=en&art=8711

4.This shows the increasing ties between this pope and Russia, in particular as regards the Middle East. READ.

...."Now, we must allow for photographs" added the Pope, after Putin positioned himself at the desk, the same place occupied by Gorbachev in his historic visit with John Paul II and then the doors closed on the private meeting which lasted over 25 minutes.  Putin and Benedict XVI spoke in German assisted by two interpreters. 

Following the encounter, there was the presentation of the delegations and the exchange of gifts. ....""

http://www.asianews.it/index.php?l=en&art=8728&size=A

5.Visit to Italy,

http://www.asianews.it/index.php?l=en&art=8739&size=A

Religious and political interests
Putin's trip to Italy also has a religious-political dimension that should not be overlooked since it is also his first visit to the Vatican. For the Russian president meeting Benedict XVI reflects a desire to have the Vatican on his side in the great strategic game that is being played out on the energy, political, ideological and religious fields. Support from the Church of Rome would help Putin dismiss European and US criticism over Russia's human rights record, its political use of energy supplies and its reticence vis-à-vis sanctions against Iran. It would also reduce the country's historic fear of encirclement.
This is especially true in the Middle East, where Putin like his predecessors probably views Russia as the traditional protector of Christian Orthodoxy in the Holy Land, and wants to break its isolation by preventing the Vatican from aligning itself to the staunchly pro-Israel positions of the US right. This way Russia would not have to make compromise with Islamic fundamentalism which Russians, too, view as a danger.
6. RUSSIAN NAVAL BASE. In 2007, I had read - and sent out - an article about ITALY permitting Russia a naval base in the Mediterranean , after the papal visit, I cannot find the article any more. Here is one from August, but not accurate.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-473069/After-claim-Arctic-Putin-plans-warship-base-Med.html
Also this, re: nuclear submarines, from the Jerusalem Post, around the same time
http://mail.google.com/mail/#search/Italy%2C+Putin%2C/11291fb9e13bef49
7. GORBACHEV:

A. meets John Paul II at the Vatican in DECEMBER 1989, historic meeting of reconciliation shortly before 1990, when the Vatican steps up its efforts re; the Jews. ACTUALLY, the 1990 meeting of the ILC  takes place in EASTERN EUROPE, after 5 years of NO relationships with the Jews; all of a sudden, the Vatican renews relations with Jews, warming up, going to Auschwitz, meeting in Prague, (pretending to do?)  Teshuvah for the Shoah. Prelude to the other meetings later in 1991, etc.( see the article for more details on that)
http://www.nytimes.com/1989/12/02/world/the-kremlin-and-the-vatican-gorbachev-visits-pope-at-vatican-ties-are-forged.html?sec=&spon=&pagewanted=all

B. Gorbachev admits he is a Christian
http://www.hyscience.com/archives/2008/03/mikhail_gorbach.php


C.http://www.salsa.net/peace/timeline/nobelsigners.html
1990 - Mikhail Sergeyevich Gorbachev
Mikhail Sergeyevich Gorbachev was born on March 2, 1931 in Privolnoye, Stavropol province. He went to Moscow State University where he graduated in Law and joined the Communist Party of the Soviet Union in 1952 As president of the Soviet Union, he had a leading role in the peace process which today characterizes important parts of the international community. He pulled troops out of Afghanistan and helped achieve a negotiated solution to the long-running regional conflicts in Angola, Nicaragua and Cambodia. He visited China in May 1989, thereby heightening world attention to worker-student democracy demonstrations there. He established diplomatic relations with South Korea. Gorbachev cultivated unprecedented close relations with Presidents Reagan and Bush, negotiated major cuts in nuclear arms, and started to convert the defense industry to peacetime needs. The defense budget and the size of the armed forces have been cut significantly. He currently heads the Gorbachev Foundation (since 1992), Green Cross International (since 1993), and the Civic Forum movement (since April 1996).


D.THIS  article is very important in understanding Israel, the world, the UN, Gorbachev and James Baker in 1991, shortly before and after Madrid, and before the Israeli elections.
http://books.google.com/books?id=pP315Mw3S9EC&pg=PA539&lpg=PA539&dq=Peres+Gorbachev+meeting,+1991&source=bl&ots=_3drh_nD3M&sig=jJbjasqbC2Du44vIhvKPG--ovYM&hl=en&ei=hG_HSfPDGY-I_gbno5jyDQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=7&ct=result#PPA539,M1

E.I have been looking for details, no time now; but SHIMON PERES BELONGS TO GREEN CROSS INTERNATIONAL, is one of the big members. This is an organization based in GENEVA, Switzerland, FOUNDED BY GORBACHEV. They meet there regularly and COOPERATE in a whole range of activities SUBVERSIVE TO ISRAEL, among others. For instance, the WATER ISSUE, with a slant to GIVE AWAY our water to the Arabs for PEACE!! Not only LAND FOR PEACE, but WATER FOR PEACE!

See also, Peres Center for Peace, for their activities:

http://www.peres-center.org/ItemImages/4587/E-Bulletin%20may%202008.pdf

and

http://www.foeme.org/index.php




9. IMMEDIATE PLANS, AND IMMEDIATE DANGER!

A. Re: the Russian Compound : see the cooperation between Moscow and the Vatican re: the Holy Places. First Russia, then Rome??

http://www.asianews.it/index.php?l=en&art=5942


B.http://www.ewtn.com/vnews/getstory.asp?number=93878



C. Another Catholic source: Publication: Catholic Insight

Date: Saturday, March 1 2008
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legislature. Negotiations ground to a halt the following year, resuming only after diplomatic pressure from the U.S.A. in 2004.
Since then Vatican officials, notably Secretary of State Cardinal Tarcisio Bertone, have been frustrated at the slow pace of negotiations and the road blocks thrown up by the Israelis. One such particularly thorny issue was the sudden 2007 revocation of visas to religious personnel not born in Israel, cutting off hundreds of priests and religious from their work in the Holy Land. On Jan. 16, 2008, the Israeli Interior Minister announced that, while taking into consideration the security issue, Israel will now make a "concession" of restoring such visas.
Recently, Israel's Holy See ambassador, Oded Ben-Hur claimed that his government was very close to finalizing the full pact--85% agreed, he said. But such statements have been heard before. Pope Benedict would like to pay an official visit to Israel, but he is unlikely to do so until the Fundamental Agreement is signed and sealed. (Files from Catholic Pope Benedict XVI World Report, National Catholic Register & Zenit)
Another piece of news that probably escaped - deliberately - Israelis' attention: the Vatican supports DURBAN II!

    D.
    Vatican ... planning to attend Durban II conference    print this page      
   
    09 March 2009

The Vatican has said that it will attend the controversial UN anti-racism conference in Geneva next month ('Durban Review Conference', or 'Durban II') but hoped for a change in the wording of its final declaration."People go to conferences to discuss and debate," Vatican spokesman Federico Lombardi was quoted as saying by the Reuters news agency. He added: "That doesn't mean we agree with the draft text of the final declaration as it is now." Both Italy and the United States have said that they will not attend unless the wording of a document they consider hostile to Israel is altered before the gathering starts. Lombardi said the Vatican's representative in Geneva had "made it clear that the Vatican is opposed to all forms of discrimination, whether it is against an individual, a religion or a state." The Vatican has permanent observer status at the United Nations, but is not a member state.....
See the WJC feature on the Durban Review Conference
        

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E.Servizio Informazione Religiosa - Direttore: Paolo Bustaffa

Tuesday 10 March 2009


15:36 - POPE TO THE HOLY LAND: CATHOLIC ORDINARIES, "FOUNDATION STONE OF A FAMILY CENTRE IN NAZARETH"
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After the Pope made the official announcement of his visit to the Holy Land during last Sunday's Angelus, today the Catholic Ordinaries of the Holy Land's Assembly held a press conference to inform journalists about the journey and give some details. At the press conference, it was announced that "the Pope will lay the foundation stone of an international family centre. Always in Nazareth, the Pope will celebrate an open-air Mass. Forty to fifty thousands faithful are expected to attend. Other open-air Masses are going to be held in Jerusalem, in the Cedron Valley, with an expected attendance of 5,000 faithful, and in Bethlehem." Benedict XVI will pray in the Cenacle and in the Holy Sepulchre. The ecumenical programme includes some meetings at "the Greek-Orthodox and Armenian-Orthodox Patriarchate in Jerusalem." On the inter-religious side, "the Pope's meeting with the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, his visit to the Dome of the Rock as well as his prayer at the Wailing Wall and at the Rabbinic centre of Jerusalem - near the central synagogue ­­- have all been confirmed. Among the requests the Israeli government "has promised to satisfy", there is "the possibility for a Christian delegation to come from Gaza, where two buses have already been allocated to drive the faithful to Bethlehem for the Mass."

Tuesday 17 March 2009
13:56 - POPE IN THE HOLY LAND: LEWY (ISRAELI AMBASSADOR TO THE HOLY SEE), "ISRAEL WILL RESPECT THE POPE'S RELIGIOUS SYMBOLS"

"It is not fitting to enter the Western Wall area with religious symbols, including a cross." According to Rabbi Shmuel Rabinovitch, who is responsible for worship matters at the Western Wall, Benedict XVI should not wear the cross during his visit to the Western Wall, scheduled for 12 May as a part of his journey to the Holy Land. The Rabbi's declarations, published today by Jerusalem Post, were followed by a clarification by Mordechay Lewy, Israeli Ambassador to the Holy See. A statement that has just been released reads: "The Ambassador of Israel to the Holy See, H.E. Mordechay Lewy, believes it necessary to clarify that during the next visit of Pope Benedict XVI to the Western Wall, the same procedure that was applied in the Papal visit of the year 2000, will be valid. The Israeli host will respect, as a matter of course, the religious symbols of the Holy Father and of his entourage, as expected in accordance with rules of hospitality and dignity. This was confirmed to a high Official of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Jerusalem personally by Rabbi Shmuel Rabinovitch, who is responsible for worship matters at the Western Wall. This clarification was deemed necessary as today - 17 March 2009 - the Israeli daily "Jerusalem Post" published a misleading quotation of the rabbi."

Tuesday 03 March 2009
17:07 - BENEDICT XVI TO THE HOLY LAND: ISRAEL, LESSONS TO LEARN ABOUT THE POPE, THE VATICAN AND THE CHURCH

500 hours of classes to explain the figure of the Pope and the history of both the Church and the Vatican to the students of the Christian schools in Israel. This is what the local government decided in order to prepare the next visit of Benedict XVI to the country, for which 43 millions of shekel had been allocated, against 30 millions that had been allocated to John Paul II's visit in 2000. This is what parish priest of Jerusalem Father Ibrahim Faltas, an assistant in the Catholic schools of Jerusalem, explained to the SIR. "It is about some lessons on this issues aimed at pupils attending Christian Catholic schools, including Muslims," explained the Franciscan Father. The news is confirmed by Father Elias Daw, President of the court of appeal of the Melkite Greek Catholic Church. With its 60 thousands faithful, this church is the biggest church of Israel. "This initiative is showing Israelis' expectations for the papal visit. This journey comes in a delicate moment, after the tragedy of Gaza, the recent attacks against the symbols of our religion on an Israeli TV channel and the declarations made by Holocaust-denying bishop Williamson," he said to the SIR. Christians in the Holy Land need the Pope and his voice of truth and justice now more than ever." In Israel, there are 44 Catholic schools attended by 24,000 students both Muslim and Catholic.


10.EXAMPLES OF MANIPULATION OF THE RABBIS BY THE CATHOLIC CHURCH.

http://www.ofmcap.org/doc/bici-porfra-170.171-3.pdf

Peace in and of itself is a beautiful idea; except when it is celebrated in the Cathedral of Aachen, the author of the idea gets the Charlemagne Prize... and we know this:

http://redmoonrising.com/chamish/Dec05.htm

Now read THIS:

Wednesday 04 March 2009

10:16 - CHARLEMAGNE PRIZE: 2009 EDITION TO ANDREA RICCARDI

The Charlemagne prize 2009 was awarded to Andrea Riccardi, the founder of Saint Egidio Community. The news is reported by the Saint Egidio Community itself. Tomorrow, 5 March, the Community will hold a press conference (5pm. at piazza S. Egidio 3 in Rome) in which Jürgen Linden, Aachen's mayor, and Walter Eversheim, spokesman of the Charlemagne Prize Board of Directors, will meet Riccardi to give him the official news of his award. We decided to bestow the prize on Andrea Riccardi "to hail him as a great European who has put his life at the service of the neighbour, in the best sense of the term, for his passionate commitment to supporting understanding and dialogue between people of every religion and nationality and for the Saint Egidio Community is giving an outstanding contribution to a more peaceful and fair world, which is an extraordinary example of civil commitment for a more human and united Europe both within and outside its borders," the board explained. The prize will be bestowed on 21 March during an official ceremony which will be held in the coronation hall of Aachen town hall. Among the winners of past editions: Angela Merkel (2008), Carlo Azeglio Ciampi (2005), Bill Clinton (2000), Tony Blair (1999), Frère Roger Schutz, Taizé (1989), and before them, Robert Schuman, Winston Churchill, Konrad Adenauer, Jean Monnet e Alcide de Gasperi.

(I guess these INTERFAITH meetings with rabbis bore fruit; the sweet fruit of recapturing Har Tzion!)

There are a lot more examples , some listed in the article,  THE SECRET MACHINATIONS OF THE VATICAN AND ITS ALLIES IN ISRAEL, 2006


11. MEDICAL INFORMATION AND RELATED NEWS

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9A04E6DA143FF934A25752C0A9609C8B63

http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/article.php?p=32091

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rat_poison

"the main benefit of anticoagulants over other poisons is that the time taken for the poison to induce death means that the rats do not associate death with eating the poison."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warfarin

Use as a pesticide

Warning label on a tube of rat poison laid on a dike of the Scheldt river in Steendorp, Belgium. The tube contains bromadiolone, a second-generation ("super-warfarin") anticoagulant.

To this day, coumarins are used as rodenticides for controlling rats and mice in residential, industrial, and agricultural areas. Warfarin is both odorless and tasteless, and is effective when mixed with food bait, because the rodents will return to the bait and continue to feed over a period of days until a lethal dose is accumulated (considered to be 1 mg/kg/day over about six days).

http://www.google.com/search?q=the+Cup+of+Borgia&sourceid=navclient-ff&amp

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"The Secret Machinations of the Vatican and its Allies in Israel, and our Survival, 2006".

The Secret Machinations of the Vatican and its Allies in Israel, and our Survival, 2006

By Daisy J. Stern, MD

 August 2006

 

First of all, a few words regarding the historical context of this essay:

As mentioned in a scholarly article by the Jerusalem-based Catholic Franciscan writer, Sabrino de Sandoli, dated 1990, the Franciscans, "Custodians of the Holy Land" for the Pope since the year 1217 C.E., have acquired many pieces of real estate for the Catholic Church in Eretz Yisrael. Their description of this as "the PEACEFUL liberation of the Holy Places" is an insult to Jewish memory.

In fact, their approach doesn't really differ much from the Muslims' "Dar-El- Charb" and "Dar-EI-Salaam": once a property was ever in Catholic hands, they consider it forever theirs, no matter the fact that G-D HIMSELF DEEDED IT to the Jewish People. Accordingly, they will use any means at their disposal, including murder and massacres, in order to reclaim it.

As an example, in the year 1429, (exactly 500 years before the Hebron massacre!), de Sandoli describes a situation in which "through the intrigues of certain rabbis, the authorities of Jerusalem took from the Franciscans the ground floor containing the "FALSE TOMB OF DAVID" ( i.e. Har Zion). AS A RESULT, there were REPRISALS AGAINST THE JEWS OF EUROPE .... In 1430 it was returned .... "

As you can see, to this day -1990 -, the Catholic Church considers reprisals against Jews worldwide a perfectly legitimate reaction to the failure by Jews in Eretz Yisrael to hand over territory they have decided belongs to them.

In that particular incident, the Pope forbade anyone to transport Jews to the Holy Land, in the midst of heavy persecution of Jews in Europe. Don't forget, the Inquisition was raging all over Europe in those days!

So let's see what Shimon Peres and Yossi Beilin concocted in 1993, the year of the Oslo Accords, with the help of the Meshumad (apostate) Israeli, Franciscan "Father" David Yaeger, representative of the Vatican and specialist of Canon Law (apparently, the process started in 1992, pretty much at the time of Rabin and Peres's election, and PRECEDED the OSLO agreement).

In what is described as a much more important accord than the Oslo Accords themselves, called the FUNDAMENTAL AGREEMENT of 1993, these negotiators, who were not even empowered by the Israeli Government under Rabin to do so - the Knesset never ratified the agreement -, signed a document, which was also signed by the Vatican representatives. This document contained three major points:

I.                   Normalization of relations between the Vatican and Israel- i.e., full diplomatic relations -

2. To be seen in the WIDER CONTEXT OF IMPROVED CATHOLIC -JEWISH RELATIONS (i.e. pogroms, Inquisition, Holocaust, etc. relinquished, replaced instead by a newly found "friendship" worldwide), and

2.                  Relationship between the Vatican and Israel as regards legal status of Church properties, taxation, return of properties the Church considers HERS.

We see from the outset that there is a direct link between "PEACE" between Catholics and Jews, and "LAND" return to the Church.

THIS, TO MY OPINION, IS THE AUTHENTIC LAND FOR PEACE AGREEMENT THAT WAS SIGNED BY THE CHURCH AND THE MENUVALIM TRAITORS: WE, AM YISRAEL, GIVE YOU THE LAND, YOU THE CHURCH, LEAVE US IN PEACE.

The "other", Oslo Peace agreement, was only a smokescreen for this, much more FUNDAMENTAL AGREEMENT - hence the name.

WHAT YOU WOULD CALL CODED LANGUAGE ..

The only problem is, nobody besides the signatories had agreed to this deal!

The Church, however, took this agreement very seriously. In fact, it expected full implementation within two years.

It was signed December 30^th, 1993. By the end of 1995, besides the assassination of Yitshak Rabin a month earlier, nothing had happened (any link there?).

In 1997, the agreement was further refined. Still, no movement, Israel doesn't budge, is not handing over the "CHURCH PROPERTIES" - and believe me, the list is a few pages long!

What the Church really wanted is this:

1.                   NO TAXATION OF THE PROPERTIES: after all, if you are the "MASTER", how can you be expected to pay taxes to a "VASSAL", right??

2.                   THE RETURN OF THE MANY PROPERTIES, actually Jewish land and Jewish memorabilia, taken over by Israel since 1948. The Church claims that the 1948 UN decision contained such a clause. It could be, but so what??

3.                   LEGAL REPRESENTATION IN ISRAELI COURTS REGARDING SUCH DISPUTES. The Israeli Government, correctly so, always refused to give lower courts jurisdiction to decide whether to allocate that land to the Church or to other owners. It itself reserves that right. So in fact, the Church can't even argue its case in court!

Not only that, but, as mentioned earlier, the Israeli Government itself NEVER RECOGNIZED THIS AGREEMENT!

So what happened?

Bibi got elected, was in no hurry to hand over Eretz Yisrael to the Church.

Barak, "intifada ", no movement.

Sharon.

The Church is getting impatient.

Gets the U.S. involved: in fact, this topic is the ONLY ONE GEORGE W.BUSH, in his first term, actually got involved with in pressuring the Israeli Government: RETURN CHURCH PROPERTIES!

August 2003 marked the low point, with total breakdown in negotiations.

August 28, 2003, under heavy pressure by the Church and the US Government, Jewish and Israeli negotiators reluctantly return to the table.

So now, pay attention to the developments:

IN SEPTEMBER OF 2003, YESHIVA UNIVERSITY GETS A NEW PRESIDENT, RICHARD JOEL, CFR STOOGE.

IN JANUARY 2004, THE LARGEST EVER MEETING OF CARDINALS OUTSIDE OF ROME TAKES PLACE AT YESHIVA UNIVERSITY. The organizers of the meetings are another Meshumad, Cardinal Lustiger, and Israel Singer of the World Jewish Congress. What happens there? Ten Cardinals; a lot of Rabbis, Orthodox, Conservative, Reform, attend: 16 Orthodox rabbis, of which current and former chief rabbis from six different countries; among them former Chief Rabbi of Israel Israel Meir Lau. There, besides "learning Torah", a highly dubious activity in this setting, "ANTISEMITISM AROUND THE WORLD IS BEING DISCUSSED."

I would say, read: heavy pressure is put on the rabbis:" Pressure Israel, give us back our properties, or else we cannot vouch for your safety."

You will see the proof a year later.

Negotiations, negotiations - according to David Rosen, one of the chief negotiators, because of "much nagging by Diaspora Jewish leaders and egged on by their Catholic counterparts."

Are you beginning to see a pattern, or am I the only one?

Still, very little progress in negotiations,

JUNE 2004, the Church sends out a communique that diplomatic relations resumed,"just after the tenth anniversary of the signing of the agreement". The Church is counting years, see?

Who are the negotiators?

On the Catholic side:

PIETRO SAMBI, Archbishop, APOSTOLIC NUNCIO TO ISRAEL AND PALESTINE, who has been stationed here since June 1998 - important detail, - and who else?

FRANCISCAN FATHER DAVID YAEGER.

Also, in case of need, GIOVANNI LAJOLO, Vatican Secretary for Relations with States, who, incidentally, brings this issue to the attention of the UN. - another important detail, related to the soon to be "Congress of Rabbis and Imams" organized by the UN in JANUARY 2005, to soften the attitude of masses of rabbis towards "PEACE", i.e. towards territorial compromise by Israel.

On the Israeli side:

Representatives of the Ministry of Finance, Foreign Affairs, and representatives of Ariel Sharon.

Still, no progress.

IN JANUARY OF 2005, THE PRESIDENT OF THE U.S. CONFERENCE OF CATHOLIC BISHOPS, WILLIAM SKYLSTAD OF SPOKANE, WASHINGTON, WRITES A SHARPLY WORDED LETTER TO THE AMBASSADOR OF ISRAEL, DANIEL AYALON, AS WELL AS A CORRESPONDING LETTER TO CONDOLEEZZA RICE, in which he says, among other things:

" ... a just resolution IS CRITICAL TO INTERRELIGIOUS RELATIONS IN THE WIDER REGION AND IN THE W ORLD".

I don't know about you, but to me, it sounds very much like a veiled threat of violence against Jews WORLDWIDE. We all know what bad inter-religious relations between Catholics and Jews mean: pogroms, inquisition, etc, etc; you elaborate. And after all, the same thing happened in 1429, with full Church justification for it in 1990, remember?

Parallel to the STICK, the CARROT is being applied, in the form of , - HOW SWEET AND LOVING - , "Rabbis and Imams for PEACE", a conference taking place January 3 to 6, 2005 in Brussels, Catholic capital of Europe, under the patronage of the King of Belgium. On the surface the alleged brainchild of Swiss "peace lover" Alain Michel, founder of the NGO" Hommes de Parole", it is in reality a FRONT for the UN, the EU, the Vatican, our dear, loving European friends, and the Ford Foundation. I will elaborate on this concoction further in this article. Let it be summarized for the time being with the statement that the whole idea is to bring rabbis, particularly Israeli chief rabbis, but also many others, to the table, in order to brainwash them into buying the whole peace charade, so they can influence their governments ( into ceding Church properties, i.e. territory, for peace).

Let it be clear, in addition, that the Catholic Church is a strong supporter of the Oslo Peace Agreement, which, as noted earlier, goes hand in hand with the Fundamental Agreement, and is a code for the same goal, namely, return of "Church properties" to the Church, under the guise of fairness to the Arabs.

In February and March of 2005, secret negotiations take place over Church properties. NO progress. But promises of more meetings.

APRIL 24, 2005, A NEW GERMAN POPE, BENEDIKT XVI, IS INAUGURATED. HIS ORIGINAL NAME WAS CARDINAL JOSEPH RATZINGER.

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Who is Joseph Ratzinger, besides being a German?

1. THE GRAND INQUISITOR OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH!

EVEN THOUGH THE NAME OF THE INQUISITION HAS BEEN CHANGED IN 1908 TO THE "HOLY OFFICE" AND IN 1965 TO "THE SACRED CONGREGATION FOR THE DOCTRINE OF THE FAITH", THE OFFICE REMAINS ESSENTIALLY THE SAME AS IT HAS BEEN FOR SEVEN HUNDRED YEARS.

CARDINAL RATZINGER WAS THE "PREFECT OF THE CONGREGATION", THAT IS, THE CHIEF INQUISITOR.

And he still supports this office: in January 2006, the Undersecretary of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith at the Vatican, Rev. Joseph di Noia, made a televised appearance on UK TV, supported by his superiors, in defense of the torture and the burnings perpetrated by the Inquisition! Isn't this a major cause of concern? Especially considering that the previous pope APOLOGIZED for the Inquisition??

2. HE IS ALSO THE SAME CARDINAL WHO CAME IN APRIL 1992 TO MEET TEDDY KOLLEK IN JERUSALEM, BEFORE THE START OF THE "OSLO PEACE AGREEMENT", IN ORDER TO DISCUSS THE STATUS OF JERUSALEM, AND TO GET THE BALL ROLLING TO RETAKE THE "CHURCH PROPERTIES" THROUGH THE FUNDAMENTAL AGREEMENT.

In addition, it is important to note that the FRANCISCANS, to which Fr. David Yaeger belongs, were one of the two monastic orders in charge of ENFORCING THE INQUISITION!

SO WE SEE THAT NEITHER THE POPE NOR FRANCISCAN FATHER DAVID YAEGER ARE STRANGERS TO THE METHODS OF THE INQUISITION, I.E. THE ASSUMED PREROGATIVE TO KILL, BURN AND TORTURE IN THE NAME OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH.

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The Church is getting VERY IMPATIENT.

Notice the PARALLEL - or should we say, MODUS OPERANDI?-

Continuation of the Saga:

JUNE-JULY 2005: Sharon promises to take talks seriously. TALKS SUPPOSED TO TAKE PLACE IN JULY. However, again a snafu, this time in the form of a BREAKDOWN IN TALKS WITH THE VATICAN, FOLLOWING FAILURE BY THE VATICAN TO CONDEMN TERROR IN ISRAEL EXCLUSIVELY, AS OPPOSED TO OTHER COUNTRIES, and resulting Israeli criticism.

Catholic sources claim this is only a pretext for Sharon to stall once more.

By the way, quite likely, Sharon stands firm when it comes to Jerusalem. This is NOT to the liking of the Church, i.e. the new Pope, at all! They expect a written apology by Sharon. Sharon dutifully complies in August 2005, apologizes in writing to the pope ... AND EVACUATES GAZA ON TISHA BE' AV, COMPLIMENTS OF WOLFENSOHN, ADIN STEINSALTZ'S BUDDY.

"PIETRO SAMBI (with other words, THE GRAND INQUISITOR POPE) IS SATISFIED".

WE ARE FRIENDS AGAIN, THAT WONDERFUL, DEEP CATHOLIC-JEWISH FRIENDSHIP.

SEPTEMBER 15, 2005: BOTH CHIEF RABBIS, Amar and Metzger, visit the Vatican. Topic: Church properties. No progress.

NOVEMBER 9-11:RABBI ADIN STEINSALTZ,NASI OF THE NEWLY FORMED SANHEDRIN, GUEST LECTURER AT THE VATICAN, AS PART OF AN EVENT SPONSORED BY THE TEMPLAR SIR JOHN TEMPLETON, a very nice man, but a Templar nevertheless and a big believer in interfaith meetings.

Highly unlikely that high ranking Vatican officials didn't use the opportunity to discuss many topics with Rabbi Adin Steinsaltz , such as, " What about OUR properties? Can you PLEASE intervene? YOU BETTER DO SOMETHING, OR ELSE ".

NOVEMBER 17, 2005: Israeli President MOSHE KATSAV at the Vatican, being hosted by the Pope. Topic: Church Properties. Moshe Katsav promises to accelerate negotiations, but the Catholic press reports "They are still firm in their positions". Interestingly, the same article also mentions that "One senior Jewish leader, long involved in Catholic/Jewish Dialogue ... had recently pressed the Israeli Foreign Ministry to take the negotiations seriously, even resorting to cursing in Yiddish to stress the importance of the issue. The Jewish leader said that it is "absurd" that the broader Catholic/Jewish relationship should be "complicated" by such "relatively minor diplomatic differences" (such as RETAINING ERETZ ISRAEL AND JERUSALEM FOR THE Jewish People! By the way, does this fearful statement by a Diaspora Jew ring a bell of deja-vu???)

THE CHURCH IS GETTING EXTREMELY IMPATIENT, BY THEIR OWN ACCOUNT.

NOVEMBER 24, 2005, ONLY A WEEK LATER: CATHARTIC MEETING IN ISRAEL: ALL OF A SUDDEN THE CATHOLIC PRESS REPORTS PROGRESS. What happened to cause such a change of attitude??

Very simple: only three days earlier, November 21, 2005, Sharon officially declared his formation of the new KADIMA PARTY, the OSLO AGREEMENT PARTY, which Shimon Peres joined a few days later, November 28, 2005.

It means that OLMERT, as Finance Minister, is now directly involved.

Who exactly participated in that meeting? Fr. DAVID YEAGER was one of the chief negotiators on the Catholic side. Who else? Was PIETRO SAMBI present?

WAS SHIMON PERES, ONE OF THE MAIN ARCHITECTS OF THE ORIGINAL AGREEMENT, ALSO FUTURE SENIOR MEMBER OF THE KADIMA PARTY, INVOLVED?

WAS SHARON APPRISED OF ALL THE DETAILS OF THE MEETING? We know that Sharon himself, although willing to relinquish more settlements, ALWAYS STUBBORNLY REFUSED TO RELINQUISH JERUSALEM. Yet AsiaNews, mouthpiece of the Vatican, reports: "the Delegations ... have brought about progress ... in negotiating the comprehensive agreement… . " How could the Catholic delegation be so satisfied if Sharon still refused to relinquish Jerusalem, unless Sharon did NOT participate, and was LEFT OUT OF THE DEAL BY BOTH PARTIES???                       

It is important to find out EXACTLY what happened at that meeting, who was there on both sides of the negotiations, what was said on both sides, and what was decided, in order to understand what transpired three weeks later, and why.

DECEMBER 17, 2005: ANNOUNCEMENT BY THE VATICAN THAT THE POPE HAS JUST DECIDED TO REPLACE PIETRO SAMBI WITH ANOTHER, NEW NUNCIO - AFTER EIGHT AND A HALF YEARS IN JERUSALEM!

PIETRO SAMBI IS BEING TRANSFERRED TO WASHINGTON, DC., USA (Leaves Jerusalem for good late January, will arrive in the US February 24, 2006)

MISSION ACCOMPLISHED, OR REPLACEMENT WITH A TOUGHER NUNCIO?

IS HE BEING TRANSFERRED BECAUSE HIS PRESENCE HERE IS GETTING SUSPICIOUS, OR BECAUSE HE IS TOO SOFT ON JEWS? PIETRO SAMBI IS DESCRIBED AS A NICE MAN (I met him, I liked him!), HE GETS ALONG WITH EVERYBODY, HE GETS HIGH GRADES FROM RABBI LAU. HE IS NOT A FRANCISCAN, NOT AN INQUISITOR. COULD HE POSSIBLY BE AN OBSTACLE TO THE PLANS OF THE POPE? OR IS HE AN ACCOMPLICE? HIS ACTIONS IN ISRAEL SHOW A MIXED RECORD.

WHY IS HE BEING TRANSFERRED TO WASHINGTON? WHAT KIND OF NEFARIOUS PLANS WILL HE ENGINEER WITH SKYLSTAD? WE KNOW THAT THE CHURCH ALWAYS PUTS PRESSURE ON ISRAEL VIA THE US GOVERNMENT. WHAT IS THE CHURCH PLANNING IN THE US TO FORCE ISRAEL TO COMPLY WITH ITS DEMANDS?

IS THERE A LINK WITH THE LATEST LEBANON WAR?

THE VERY NEXT DAY AFTER THE ANNOUNCEMENT OF SAMBI'S TRANSFER, DECEMBER 18, 2005, ACCORDING TO BARRY CHAMISH (what are your sources, Barry?), SHARON HAS TEA WITH SHIMON PERES, COLLAPSES HALF AN HOUR LATER WITH A "STROKE".

COINCIDENCE, G-D'S WILL, OR FOUL PLAY?

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The "Cup of Borgia" is a tried and true method used by Jesuits over and over again to get rid of important personages, among them Popes, whom they felt interfered with their aims. It was a tasteless poison that was administered, usually surreptitiously, by a person familiar with the victim.

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JANUARY 2006, SHARON AS GOOD AS DEAD, BUT NOT QUITE YET, THANKS TO THE "TREATMENT" OF HADASSAH HOSPITAL, DEAR FRIENDS OF EHUD OLMERT ("WE OWE HIM").

(THE ACTUAL DEATH PROCESS IS BEING INTRODUCED GRADUALLY; ACT II TAKES PLACE AT THE BEGINNING OF THE CURRENT LEBANON WAR. WHEN IS ACT III PLANNED FOR: FOR WHEN THE CRUSADERS COME MARCHING VICTORIOUSLY INTO JERUSALEM, AS A FITTING FINALE FOR THE EXPECTED VATICAN VICTORY OVER THE LION OF JERUSALEM?)

MARCH 28, 2006: STOLEN ELECTIONS, WITH SHARON "TEMPORARILY INCAPACITATED", ACCORDING TO YOSSI BEILIN'S PAL MANNY MAZUZ. OLMERT WINS THE ELECTION. SHIMON PERES IS NUMBER TWO ON THE LIST.

APRIL 6, 2006: ONE WEEK AFTER THE ELECTION"VICTORY", PERES RUNS ... TO THE KOTEL? NO, SORRY, TO THE POPE, TO PAY HIS RESPECTS, AND TO BRING BY PERSONAL COURIER A LETTER FROM EHUD OLMERT -AFTER ALL, WHOM ELSE CAN YOU TRUST WITH SUCH A SECRET AND IMPORTANT MESSAGE??? - AND WHAT ELSE - TO PROMISE THAT THE CHURCH PROPERTY MATTERS WILL FINALLY BE TAKEN CARE OF PROPERLY.

WHAT IS WRITTEN IN THAT LETTER? DID OLMERT ACTUALLY RECOGNIZE THE FUNDAMENTAL AGREEMENT? WHY WERE THE CONTENTS OF THAT LETTER NEVER PUBLICIZED? DO WE NOT HAVE THE ABSOLUTE RIGHT TO KNOW ITS CONTENTS? IS OLMERT PLAYING WITH OUR LIVES AND OUR LAND IN SECRET?

DURATION OF THE MEETING: 40 MINUTES, AN EXCEPTIONALLY LONG MEETING BY "POPE-EY" STANDARDS.

BY THE WAY, THE DATE SHIMON PERES VISITS THE INQUISITOR POPE COINCIDES WITH AN IMPORTANT JESUIT JUBILEE BEING CELEBRATED IN ROME, WHICH STARTS APRIL 7 (500 ^TH ANNIVERSARY; HOW INTERESTING! DIDN'T THE HEBRON MASSACRE OF 1929, ALLOWED BY THE BRITISH-ANGLICANS-SEMICATHOLICS, OCCUR 500 YEARS AFTER THE HUTZPAH OF THESE JEWS TO TRY TO KEEP DAVID'S TOMB IN 1429? COULD THERE BE A NOT SO SUBTLE HINT THERE? RETRIBUTION TO THE JEWS 500 YEARS  AFTER THEIR "CRIME"; SUBMISSION OF THE JEWS 500 YEARS AFTER JESUIT SUCCESSES?)

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Now I am asking you: do you believe this all to be one big coincidence? The Church had nothing to do with it? Or alternatively, only G-d pulled the strings, and the Church had no part in these machinations? The nice, peaceful Catholic Church we are all so familiar with?

As an epilogue, I would like to share with you some more information on the way these sinister actors work behind the scene.

The 'Second Congress of Rabbis and Imams" took place March 24, 2006, in Seville, Spain. The date itself is highly suspicious, falling right before the Israeli elections. But what is even more sinister is the way the whole thing was engineered behind the scene by forces that had nothing to do with what was presented to the public.

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The alleged organizer of the affair is a certain Alain Michel, as mentioned earlier. Supposedly the founder of" Hommes de Parole", a Swiss, neutral NGO; what was not mentioned, however, is that this same Alain Michel has been the CEO, for 15 years, of a FRENCH U.N. - UNESCO NGO called EquiLibre, which in the past had supported the P .A. and had delivered truckloads of supplies to them.

Furthermore, what was NOT mentioned, is that the "partners" - read, financial sponsors ­of this event - included the U.N. , UNESCO, the EU, the Ford Foundation, Spain, and a few Jewish and Arab donors.

Why these conferences? The organizers candidly acknowledge" Because the religious ministers ... enjoy true power. .. they can influence governments ... urging them in making decisions."

Decisions that the UN, the EU, the Vatican, the Ford Foundation will approve of, of course: such as electing Olmert and Peres; and returning Church properties.

So how do they operate? They brainwash these naive rabbis (and imams) into believing that they are advancing the cause of peace by "teaching them to read the "Holy Books" (read the Torah, the Koran), in ways that fits the EU Global Village philosophy; basically teaching Apikorsut to these rabbis in the name of peace.

Most suspicious, however, was the presence of 80 so-called "specialists and Christian personalities". What is a specialist? How about:" a Vatican "specialist" in Muslim Affairs?" Or a "coordinator of inter-religious affairs of Catholic Universities ", or a "coordinator of Three faiths Forum" ... You get the picture.

Who participated? Well, besides Kofi Annan, various Ford Foundation representatives, "specialists" in inter-religious relations, etc. Chief Rabbi Metzger, various other chief rabbis, including rabbis of various Israeli cities, MANY RABBIS FROM ROME (are you surprised? , the famous Sufi Sheikh of Nazereth who loves us so much he just cursed us recently, Sheikh Manasra ; Michael Melchior; Menachem Froman, the list goes on and on.

Why did it take place in Seville, under the patronage of King Juan Carlos and the King of Morocco?

Well, for one thing, King Juan Carlos is the representative of the Vatican on the political scene.

Furthermore, I believe there was another, more cynical motive: Seville is in Andalusia, the Spanish province home to one of the most flourishing Jewish communities of Spain for centuries, until the Catholic Inquisition burned, killed, robbed, converted and/or kicked out every Jew present on Spanish soil; a stark reminder of what the Catholic Church is capable of, if Jews (and Israel) don't do as the Church wishes.

Also, it is not far from Toledo, home of the beautiful, moving "Church of Santa Maria La Blanca", actually a synagogue converted by our dear Catholic friends of old into a Church. This is the building that the Church is offering to TRADE FOR THE TOMB OF KING DAVID, ON HAR ZION, IN JERUSALEM!

By taking all these rabbis there, the Vatican-UN-EU-CFR accomplished a multiple whammy:

1.                   They frightened the rabbis to death

2.                   They taught them to speak UN-VATICAN Lingo, or else

3.                   They got immediate emissaries to the Israeli voters, grossly attempting to interfere with Israeli (and P.A.) elections.

4.                   The emissaries, once more, acted as FRONTS for the EU, UN, Vatican, CFR.

5.                   They made the rabbis desire the beautiful synagogue.

6.                   They managed to get an instant, home-grown mouthpiece for their nefarious schemes.

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As an example, just now, the site "Hommes de Parole" carries the following declaration in the names of Rabbis and Imams of 40 countries regarding the current war raging in Lebanon:

" ... We call upon all the leaders of all the parties concerned in this conflict TO STOP THE VIOLENCE IMMEDIATELY ; TO IMPLEMENT A DURABLE CEASEFIRE, IF NECESSARY GUARANTEED BY INTERNATIONAL FORCES ... "

Now do you see the Machiavellian scheme perpetrated upon these naive rabbis who participated, for instance the Chief Rabbi of Israel, Yonah Metzger? By claiming to speak in the name of rabbis who participated in both congresses, they are actually putting words in their mouths they would probably never dream to say. The rabbis are claiming support for international forces at the Israel-Lebanese border, the GOAL OF THE NWO!!

Would Rabbi Metzger say such a thing?

DID Rabbi Shear Yashuv Cohen, or Oded Wiener, or David Rosen, actually say such a thing? After all, they are part of the "Permanent Committee of the Congress of Rabbis and Imams", and as such, probably made this declaration.

If they said it, it is an absolute outrage that has to be exposed. They are priming the IDF for failure!

If, on the other hand, the UN exploited their naivete, that too, has to be exposed!

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In Israel, the evil ones got their first wish: a few days after the first "Congress", the Israeli public elected Ehud -CFR Olmert and Shimon-Vatican Peres.

Now they are scheming for their next wish: Jerusalem, and all of Israel.

Barry Chamish is convinced this current war is connected to the whole scheme. It looks more and more like he could be right:

The fact that David Rosen, one of the major negotiators of the Fundamental Agreement, and a strong supporter of the Vatican's demands regarding Church Properties, is on the Committee, clearly points to the Vatican as the instigator of these "Congresses of Rabbis and Imams".

In addition, this demand by him for international forces at Israel's borders also implicates the Vatican. Not by accident did France and Italy, Catholic countries, volunteer troops for this task. The Pope wants "his" troops here!

***

Of the VATlCAN, the CFR, the EU, the UN, I say: YEMACH SHEMAM VEZICHRAM. May their memory be obliterated forever and ever.

To Olmert and Peres, I say: You will get your own in due time, do not have any doubt about it.

To the Rabbis I say: wake up! See what these Reshaim are doing to you, playing with your minds! See through their schemes! Don't be either cowards or fools. Do what Hashem wants, not what the Reshaim want, and we will succeed, B"H!!! Otherwise, YOUR names will be remembered for posterity, forever and ever, as collaborators to this horrible crime being perpetrated, once again, upon Eretz Yisrael and the Jewish People.

Daisy J. Stem, MD, NY, USA

Thanks to Barry Chamish, Joel Bainerman, Elisheva Barre, Elisheva Rubin, Bill, for their input.

WOW, now THIS is TRUTH! Thank you for telling it like it is: EVERY AMERICAN should see this. The REVEALING video clip that was not allowed in the USA

From A.M. Thank you, DS

THANKS TO SONIA FOR FORWARDING

 

Many commentators complain bitterly that we had "no warning" about the current economic disaster.

 

They have short memories, or are trying to protect the favorite political machines.

 

Meanwhile, their networks did everything in their power to keep this video clip from appearing on

American screens.  Well they succeeded – but not before the CANADIANS got their hands on it.

 

So before they can have it removed again, you can still watch it.  See who the real culprits

are in this financial melt-down.  Then check how much money they received in contributions…

 

But don't worry.  There are plenty of taxpayers who will pick up the tab for generations to come.

 

So just watch – and remember next time you go to vote.   --  Allan

VIDEO CLIP THAT WAS NOT ALLOWED IN THE U S A The video clip that was not allowed in the   USA  - Pass this on  .... This news video shows that Mr. Bush tried to warn Congress starting in 2001, that this economic crisis was coming if something was not done, but Congress refused to listen, along with Barney Franks.  This video says it all The AMERICAN media did not want this video on YouTube, so they had Time Warner threaten a law suit (proprietary rights) if it was not taken off. YouTube did remove it but not before the link was captured by our Canadian friends over which the American media has no control.... tough tacos, NBC, ABC, CBS, et al.... This link is the exact video but is routed through Canada .  Everyone in America  needs to see this!  Wonder how Barney Franks feels about seeing his lying mug splashed all over America via this video clip??         http://WWW.youtube.Com/watch?v=cMnSp4qEXNM&NR=1

Allan, Chapter Director

ACT! For America.
New York & Long Island Chapter
لن استسلم
L A N . .  A S T A S L E M
I will NOT submit to islam!

 

SHAS is slime, was slime, will be slime. As I was reviewing the history of the 1992 elections, I saw that then also, YERUSHALAYIM WAS SOLD OUT BECAUSE OF THEM ( and the Arabs). WILL THEY DO IT AGAIN? Machiavellian Jews!

Netanyahu, Yishai Congratulate Barak

Adar 28, 5769, 24 March 09 10:06

(IsraelNN.com) Prime Minister designate Binyamin Netanyahu and Shas leader Eli Yishai both calleded Labor leader Ehud Barak Tuesday evening to congratulate him on the Labor party vote to join the coalition. The Labor party central committee voted 608 to 507 to join the government.

After the vote, Labor MKs who had strongly opposed the move said they would continue to support the party and respect the decision. Meretz MKs called on the opposed MKs to leave the party, while Kadima MKs called the decision the end of the Labor party.

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WE'VE BEEN BETRAYED. SO WHAT'S NEXT???? AND WHAT ABOUT JERUSALEM ??

Labor Party Approves Coalition Deal, Gives Netanyahu a Majority

Adar 28, 5769, 24 March 09 06:59

by Tzvi Ben Gedalyahu and Hillel Fendel

(IsraelNN.com) The Labor party's Central Committee voted 58-42 percent Tuesday night to give the go-ahead for the party to join a Netanyahu-Lieberman coalition. Leaders of the losing camp warned that the victory by party chairman Ehud Barak will lead to the death of the party.

Barak, who stands to retain his position of Defense Minister in the coalition, overcame fierce opposition by party ideologists and executed another in a series of reversals of previous statements. Immediately after Labor's drubbing in the February elections for the new Knesset, he said that the public had decided it wants Labor in the opposition.

He now has argued that the public wants Labor to join the coalition "for the good of the country," and he negotiated a preliminary coalition agreement with Likud that was concluded on Monday even though the Labor Central Committee had not yet voted.

The new pact gives Likud chairman Prime Minister-designate Binyamin Netanyahu an absolute majority of 66 Knesset Members, without the inclusion of United Torah Judaism (UTJ) and the two national religious parties, Ichud Leumi (National Union) and Jewish Home. The vote in effect turns the Likud government from nationalist-religious to centrist.

The Labor party' decision also affects the coalition agreement by Likud and Israel Is Our Home (Yisrael Beiteinu), headed by MK Lieberman. That deal, which includes a number of cabinet posts for Yisrael Beiteinu, was signed with the understanding that it would change if Labor or Kadima were to join the government.

Prime Minister-designate Netanyahu promised Labor leader Barak five ministerial posts and will bump Likud MK Moshe Ya'alon, a former IDF Chief of Staff Moshe Ya'alon, from the Defense Ministry position.

Barak was strongly backed by Histadrut union leader Ofir Eini and five MKs, most of them ministers in the outgoing government. Against these six stood seven Labor MKs, headed by former party leader Amir Peretz.

Nissim Zvili, former Secretary-General of the Labor Party, said, "I have not been involved in a while, but I came to vote today, and I had the feeling that no matter how the vote goes, this was the funeral of the Labor Party."

Pro and Con
Representatives of both camps attempted to gain last-minute supporters in their speeches at the loud and intense party gathering Tuesday afternoon. Barak said, "I don't need any jobs or positions in the government. I have been Prime Minister, and Defense Minister, Minister of the Interior and Minister of Foreign Affairs, and IDF Chief of Staff… The party is important, but we also have to look out for the good of the nation. A narrow right-wing government is not good for Israel at this time."

"As Yitzchak Rabin used to say, we don't have a 'spare' country, and this is true now as well," Barak told the party members.

MK Eitan Cabel, on the other hand, called on the Central Committee members to "vote against those who wish to destroy our home [the Labor Party]."

MK Shelly Yechimovich, an ardent opponent of joining the coalition government, elaborated: "If until now, we were a fifth wheel in the Kadima government, and we dropped from 19 to 13 Knesset seats, this time we will be totally useless in the right-wing Netanyahu-Lieberman government - a government that is not ours and that is not based on our guidelines -- and we will be totally erased in the next elections. If the Labor Party disappears, the country will lose out by not having a party that stands for [what we stand for]… A party has to know how to sit in the Opposition. I could be a minister if I want, but I am very happy to be a Knesset Member."

Yechimovich said earlier in the day that though she does not claim to have a monopoly on party idealism, "I can assure you that if the supporters of joining the government would not have been offered ministerial portfolios, they would not be so emphatically in favor of joining."

Cabel also denied charges that he does not care about what is good for the country: "I love the State and am willing to give my life for it. There is not a group that does love and another that does not love the State… Things might have been very different today [i.e., Labor might not have dropped to 13 seats – ed.] had we quit the Kadima government after the Winograd Report, as I demanded at the time."

Barkai: Death Either Way
Army Radio media personality Razi Barkai said Labor would have been better advised not to join the coalition: "Either way, the party is in very bad shape. But if it joins the coalition, it will die in a humiliating manner, while if it remains in the opposition, at least its burial will be respectable."

In an unprecedented move, Barak appointed a team to negotiate with the Likud even before the party had authorized him to do so, despite the opposition to the move within Labor. This prompted a letter from the seven "rebel" MKs to the Likud, warning that they do not see themselves obligated to back promises made by an unauthorized team. 

Shalom Simchon, who stands to continue in his position as Agriculture Minister and who led the negotiations on behalf of Labor, said he felt that the letter-writers had "stabbed him in the back" by writing it.

Welfare Minster Yitzchak Herzog announced Tuesday morning, after long deliberations, that he favors joining the coalition. 

Ironically, the agreement with the Likud is so favorable for Labor that it is not certain whether there will be enough MKs to fill the positions Labor has been offered. The agreement stipulates that Labor will have five Cabinet ministers, two deputy ministers, and the rotating head of the Knesset Foreign Affairs and Defense Committee – more positions than the six MKs who support the agreement can fill.

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SOUNDS LIKE THE VATICAN TO ME! AND SHIMON PERES too, of course.

bill sent this, thanks, DS

"In his sixteenth century treatise entitled, "The Prince," Niccolo Machiavelli wrote those words advising his prince of the "virtues" he must exercise in ruling his kingdom...".                                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                  
"Still, even though on the inside he is able to scheme, he should appear to him who sees and hears him altogether merciful, faithful, humane, upright and religious."

 

Former Mafia Kingpin: Congress Just Like Us

Tuesday, March 24, 2009 10:38 AM

By: Michael Franzese

 

The House of Representatives passed a bill last week taxing the bonuses that were paid out to a number of AIG executives at 90 percent. I heard a congresswoman from New York say that congress was "acting in record time" to protect the major shareholders of the company, the American people, against the unbridled greed of the AIG executives.

After all, the government should be calling the shots now. It's what I would have done when I was on the streets.

Twenty years ago, I would have applauded the government's move to control the AIG bigwigs. When I was doing business for the Colombo Crime Family, I would often "bail out" a failing company. When the boss had nowhere to go, when no legit lender would lend him a dime, or when his suppliers were threatening to throw him into bankruptcy, he came to me. Mob guys looked for business opportunities like this every day. Great way for us to own a business.

Once the owner took my money, or used my name, I owned him. He wasn't about to get a pay hike when he owed me money. He wasn't buying a new car or taking any paid vacations either. I didn't care how hard he worked. And if he didn't toe the line, I would throw him out and take the company over.

From what I'm hearing, the government knew about the bonuses some time ago. Some of them even approved of the payouts. Some of them even got campaign contributions from the AIG exec's. So the tax thing was a good cover up. Good work, guys! It's a move right out of Machiavelli's play book.

You know Machiavelli? He's the Mafia's champion. As a former capo regime of La Cosa Nostra's Colombo Crime family, I am very familiar with Machiavelli. For almost 20 years, I lived and conducted business under his philosophy.

"A Prince must have a mind disposed to turn itself about as the winds, able to do good when he can and evil when he must," Machiavelli wrote. "Still, even though on the inside he is able to scheme, he should appear to him who sees and hears him altogether merciful, faithful, humane, upright and religious."

Sound familiar?

In his sixteenth century treatise entitled, "The Prince," Niccolo Machiavelli wrote those words advising his prince of the "virtues" he must exercise in ruling his kingdom. Seems like convicted money manager Bernard Madoff and some of the CEOs of AIG, Lehman Brothers, Countrywide Mortgage, Enron and a few dozen more of America's corporate honchos … and now, the government itself has taken Machiavelli's advice to heart in the operation of their respective enterprises.

I would not be surprised to find a copy of "The Prince" on the desks of more than a few of Washington's elite. Would you? Their misguided and in some cases illicit leadership contributed significantly to the financial meltdown of the United States economy, the magnitude of which has not been seen for decades. If you think they will get off scot free, FUGGEDABOUTIT!

At the height of my operation, I was bringing $8 - $10 million a week into the Colombo Family coffers from business interests I had in the gasoline, entertainment, auto and gambling industries. Although I enjoyed success for a time, Machiavelli's business philosophy eventually brought me three racketeering indictments, $15 million in fines and restitutions, untold legal fees and a 10-year federal prison sentence.

Mob guys ought to be worried. First the government took a tip from them and realized there was big money in gambling. Now the government is taking control of businesses the same way. And they don't even have to worry about the racketeering indictments they slammed me and my former associates with for doing the same thing. They called it extortion when the mob did it. Seems like I left the life just in time. Too much competition!

Michael Franzese was once one of the biggest mob money earners since Al Capone - and the youngest individual on Fortune Magazine's "50 Biggest Mafia Bosses." Michael's new book, "I'll Make You an Offer You Can't Refuse – Insider Business Tips from a Former Mob Boss" will be released on March 31. Go Here to pre-order.

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From the horse's mouth:"Our main disadvantage is that we are playing against someone who doesn't abide by the rules and doesn't keep promises," Cabel said about Barak. "He can murder, rape and steal and get away with it.

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1237727512219&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

"Our main disadvantage is that we are playing against someone who doesn't abide by the rules and doesn't keep promises," Cabel said about Barak. "He can murder, rape and steal and get away with it.

If this deal goes through - and it looks like it will, considering the dirty deals and everything else- , here we go again: back to square one.

HOW WILL WE BE ABLE TO FIGHT ANYTHING with this slime up there once more???

DS

Really amazing! World hypocrisy למלאה

From Rabbi Dov.

 

 

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_and_disasters_by_death_toll

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocide

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocide_in_history

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I don't wish any Jew any harm; still, I think it is good that a highly placed member of the police got hit in the head by an ARAB ROCK. Let them experience first hand what ARAB ROCKS do: in UHM-EL-FAHM, AND in Bet Omar, Hevron, Tekoa, and Yitzhar!

Deputy Police Chief Lightly Injured in Umm El-Fahm

Adar 28, 5769, 24 March 09 10:55

(IsraelNN.com) Shahar Ayalon, the deputy chief of the Israel police was lightly wounded in the head Tuesday morning, when he was hit in the head by rocks thrown at him during a march by Jewish nationalists in the Israeli Arab city of Umm el-Fahm, according to nana/10.

During disturbances that broke out in reaction to the march, other objects were thrown at the marchers and police were forced to fire riot-control weapons at the protestors.

 

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Re: so THIS IS who is behind our CHRONIC WATER SHORTAGE; AGAIN, THE SLIME, ENEMY OF THE JEWS, TRAITOR SHIMON PERES, AND HIS INTERNATIONAL BUDDIES! IF not for G-D's RAIN< where would we be?????

HERE WE GO AGAIN: coming from an" INTERNATIONAL ENVIRONMENTAL GROUP"( see below who they really are);

DEMAND THAT ISRAEL REDUCE ITS USE OF WATER:

JUST SAY NO!

We have to understand where that pressure on ISRAELIS, that means, US, comes from, to reduce water usage. LET THE ENEMIES reduce THEIR water usage.

We have to understand that a WAR is also being waged against us in the WATER sphere, led by the UN, NGO's such as GREEN CROSS, which I have just sent you excerpts from, etc, with

SHIMON PERES BEING A BIG PARTNER in THIS PROJECT.

I wonder: does SHIMON PERES ALSO HAVE FINANCIAL INTERESTS IN THE WATER TREATMENT PROJECTS OF ISRAEL? THAT WOULD NOT SURPRISE ME ONE BIT, KNOWING THE SLIME THAT HE IS.

THE FOUNDER AND HEAD OF GREEN CROSS - the name says it all! - IS GORBACHEV, A FRIEND OF THE VATICAN; all of these people have an AGENDA THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE US.

GLOBAL WARMING IS A LIE:

http://mail.google.com/mail/#inbox/12032aa2796cb7a5

AGAIN, WE'VE BEEN HAD, AND LIKE MORONS WE BELIEVE EVERYTHING WE ARE TOLD.

WHEN ARE THE JEWS GOING TO WAKE UP, AND UNDERSTAND THAT A TOTAL WAR IS BEING WAGED AGAINST US, AND THAT INCLUDES DEPRIVING US OF OUR GOD GIVEN WATER AS WELL?

SO TELL THE KNESSET:

SCREW THE GLOBAL WATER AGREEMENTS!
LET'S DO WHAT'S GOOD FOR US.
BECAUSE "THEY" SURE WON'T!

WATER REVOLUTION NOW!!!!

UN: Israel #1 World Leader in Water Recycling

Adar 27, 5769, 23 March 09 01:09

by Malkah Fleisher

(IsraelNN.com) Despite Israel's constant struggle to maintain a sufficient water supply – or perhaps because of it – Israel was named the world's most efficient recycled water user in a United Nations report issued in honor of International Water Day.

Presented at the 5th World Water Forum in Istanbul, the UN report also ranked Israel as one of the world's leaders in desalinated water use.

Officials at the Israel Export and International Cooperation Institute noted that water technology exports have doubled since 2005, with 200 Israeli companies exporting $1.4 billion worth of water management, recycling and purification, irrigation, desalination, and safety technologies to over 100 countries in 2008.

Israel purifies and reuses almost 70 percent of its waste water each year for agriculture.  Much of the leftover sewage water is reused for other purposes.

Israel vastly outranks even the second most efficient recycled water user – Spain – which only recycles 12 percent of its waste water for agriculture.  In Turkey, the host country of the forum, only 3.6 percent of sewage water is recycled.

According to the UN, approximately 1.4 million children die annually as a result of drinking polluted water. In China, roughly 10,000 chemical plants are located on the banks of the country's two largest rivers.

Environmentalist group Friends of the Earth-Middle East, recommends that Israel set its next goal at reducing domestic water consumption, which is still significantly higher than in other developed countries.

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FRIENDS OF THE MIDDLE EAST SHOULD BE CALLED:

FRIENDS OF SHIMON PERES,

 friends of Gorbachev, and friends of the POPE

WHO IS NOT our friend!

http://www.foeme.org/index.php

http://www.peres-center.org/ItemImages/4587/E-Bulletin%20may%202008.pdf

http://gci.ch/index.php?option=com_content&task=blogsection&id=2&Itemid=13

And by the way, I WOULD be willing to help people in REAL need of water.

JUST NOT PHONEYS, AND NOT ENEMIES.

AND CERTAINLY NOT ANYBODY WHO WANTS US DEAD.

Re:so THIS IS who is behind our CHRONIC WATER SHORTAGE; AGAIN, THE SLIME, ENEMY OF THE JEWS, TRAITOR SHIMON PERES, AND HIS INTERNATIONAL BUDDIES! IF not for G-D's RAIN< where would we be?????

http://www.foeme.org/index.php

Brainwashing Jewish / Israeli children that we OWE the Arabs water - as though they are not taking enough as it is, between thefts, and excessive generosity on the part of the water authorities of Israel.

This is PLAIN SABOTAGE OF ISRAEL, again.

SET TO TAKE PLACE IN A FEW DAYS.

DS

Re: so THIS IS who is behind our CHRONIC WATER SHORTAGE; AGAIN, THE SLIME, ENEMY OF THE JEWS, TRAITOR SHIMON PERES, AND HIS INTERNATIONAL BUDDIES! IF not for G-D's RAIN< where would we be?????

More on the topic; SO THIS IS THE PLAN! LOOK WITH YOUR OWN EYES, WHERE IS THE OUTRAGE???

  PERES THE ARCH-ENEMY IS IT!!!

http://www.peres-center.org/ItemImages/4587/E-Bulletin%20may%202008.pdf

so THIS IS who is behind our CHRONIC WATER SHORTAGE; AGAIN, THE SLIME, ENEMY OF THE JEWS, TRAITOR SHIMON PERES, AND HIS INTERNATIONAL BUDDIES! IF not for G-D's RAIN< where would we be?????

http://gci.ch/index.php?option=com_content&task=blogsection&id=2&Itemid=13

The Water for Peace programme aims to promote cooperation and conflict resolution throughout the world's transboundary river basins. Through this programme, Green Cross is working with governments, local authorities and civil society to remove the obstacles to integrated and cooperative water management, and resolve related conflicts, in six important international basins across the world: the Parana La Plata, the Jordan, the Volga, the Okavango, the Volta and the Danube. This effort is also illustrated by GCI's current efforts to help protect limited water resources - including groundwater - from pollution in Israel and Palestine. In 2006, Green Cross International's global work on water won Mikhail Gorbachev the prestigious UNEP "Champion of the Earth" Award.

http://gci.ch/index.php?Itemid=39&id=336&option=com_content&task=view

Expo Zaragossa 2008: Gorbachev Highlights GCI Water Activities

   











GCI Founding President Mikhail Gorbachev speaking at Expo Zaragossa 2008 with Expoagua Zaragoza 2008 President, Roque Gistau and GCI President Alexander Likhotal.











Mikhail Gorbachev, the founder of Green Cross International, celebrated the launch of the new book "Water for Peace" at a conference in Spain in front of a full capacity audience. The book is part of the "Water Words" series and highlights the work of Green Cross International in the field of water conflict prevention.

In addition to the preface written by Mr. Gorbachev, the book is a compilation of seven essays with contributions from Shimon Peres, current President of Israel; Stavros Dimas, European Commissioner for the Environment ; Loic Fauchon, President of the World Water Council; Anna Tibaijuka, Executive Director of the United Nations Human Settlements Programme;; Michel Rocard, member of the European Parliament ex-Prime Minister of France; and Mahmoud Abu Zeid, Minister of Water Resources and Irrigation of Egypt.

To launch the book and promote the acquisition of universal knowledge, solutions, best practices, and recommendations on water, Mr. Gorbachev attended the conference held at the Huesca Congress Centre in Spain. During his presentation of the book, Mr Gorbachev stressed the importance of water in ensuring global peace, citing the Nile Basin and the current conflict in the Middle East as examples and suggested establishing a World Agency for Water to address the issue of limited water resources. He went further to say: "Environmental Security has to be raised by all countries, but it is necessary an organization that promotes it, that is, the global problems need global solutions." The need for a global solution is even more necessary when considering the world's population is estimated to grow to 9 million by 2050, thus requiring solutions based on good water management, cooperation and safe technologies. T

The book addresses the importance of universal water access for development, and the role of conflict mediation surrounding water to prevent world conflicts. The book, a collaboration of Green Cross International and Green Cross Spain, explores the connection between natural resource and social and economical degradation, while emphasizing global environmental security. The aim of the book, according to Mr. Gorbachev, "is to raise awareness of the connection between water, poverty and security and inspire action at both the local and global levels."

To read Mikhail Gorbachev's contribution to "Water for Peace - Peace for Water," click here.
 

Any of you has an explanation on these recent serial plane and helicopter crashes all over the world: what do you think is going on: terror, poor maintenance, governments trial balloons,......???

FAA: 17 killed in Montana plane crash

Cargo plane crash lands in Japan

I wonder why DAVKA on this event...: what kind of DIRTY SECRET are they hiding? Usually gag orders seem to be placed on events where the PTB had a role to play. Interesting WHO WAS behind the bombing attempt, which one of our FRIENDS.

Court Places Gag Order on Car Bomb Investigation

Adar 26, 5769, 22 March 09 02:40

(IsraelNN.com) The Haifa Magistrates Court placed a gag order on the investigation into the car bomb which was placed near a Haifa mall on Saturday night. An alert citizen reported the car to the police who defused the bomb.

Earlier in the morning it was reported that the license plate on the car, which had been attributed to a resident of eastern Jerusalem, was actually faked. In addition, Prime Minister Ehud Olmert said in the morning's cabinet meeting that the attack originated in Judea and Samaria.

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Beautiful, and a great lesson in living right.

Read and learn: this is how we can grow our own gardens... and everything else in life too. "the daffodil principle".

From E.T., thank you.

DS

 

More about water. It's a first step, and better late than never. But how hard is it for them to replace those pipes, with the millions of dollars they are getting from every side? I feel vindicated to a very small degree.

Pipes Used in Water Theft Confiscated

Adar 23, 5769, 19 March 09 07:21

(IsraelNN.com) The inspection unit of the Civil Administration for Judea and Samaria seized on Thursday afternoon more than 100 km (62 miles) of water piping that Arabs had used to steal water from the Mekorot Israeli national water company, according to Army Radio.

Millions of cubic meters of water were taken in the year before the seizure.

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Min Hashamaim , we are getting help from an unlikely source. Never mind the screwed up reasons for the idea, but I think it is excellent, so I joined my voice to it: Maybe you want to do that too, in the comments section. HELP GET RID OF THE POPE!!!

http://newsweek.washingtonpost.com/onfaith/guestvoices/2009/03/impeach_the_pope.html

Impeach the Pope

By Robert S. McElvaine
Professor of Arts & Letters, Millsaps College

......................

DS' s comment to the article at the Washington Post:

YES!!! Impeach this pope.* I am all for it. Great idea, keep up the good work.Pass it around, to as many people as possible, and as soon as possible, before he infects the whole world with his poisonous mind. This is an evil pope, he used to be the Grand Inquisitor before he became pope, and he has the mind of an inquisitor. HE NEEDS TO GO!

And now, immediately, before it is too late: I would say at the latest by April he should be gone.


[* I was going to add: "and all the other ones after him as well", but I figured we would have less of a chance of success that way. So I had to restrain my pen.]


So please, do add your own voice to the long list. Just a matter of raising awareness. For your information, this made the front page of GOOGLE NEWS today!

http://www.google.com/news?q=&sourceid=navclient-ff&ie=UTF-8&rls=GGGL,GGGL:2006-33,GGGL:en

Video: Outcry at Pope's denunciation of condom use France 24

The highlighted sentence is the most important one : between 900 million for Gaza, 100 million for Jericho, the US, i.e. OBAMA, is spending 1 BILLION DOLLARS THEY DON'T HAVE on our enemies. Draw your own conclusions - and remember this week's murders

PA's Fatah Violates Roadmap Demand to Recognize Israel

Adar 22, 5769, 18 March 09 09:30

by Tzvi Ben Gedalyahu

(IsraelNN.com) Senior Fatah leader Mohammed Dahlan confirmed on Tuesday that Fatah, which leads the Palestinian Authority, does not recognize Israel, one of the basic demands of the Roadmap plan. The Western world has boycotted the Hamas terrorist organization because of the same refusal to acknowledge the existence of the Jewish state.

The other two requirements in the American-backed Roadmap plan - renouncing violence and accepting existing agreements - also have been violated by the PA.

"I want to say for the thousandth time, in my own name and in the name of all of my fellow members of the Fatah movement: We do not demand that the Hamas movement recognize Israel," Dahlan said on PA television.

"On the contrary, we demand of the Hamas movement not to recognize Israel because the Fatah movement does not recognize Israel even today, added Dahlan. He was Fatah's top official in the Gaza region until Hamas won a militia war against the rival sect nearly two years ago.

Dahlan explained that although Fatah, headed by PA Chairman Mahmoud Abbas, does not recognize Israel, the PA does -- but only in order to receive aid from the international community. Western countries have poured billions of dollars into the Ramallah-based administration.

The United States this week announced it is spending more than $100 million on a training base in Jericho for an emerging PA army, which the State Department refers to as "special forces."

Itamar Marcus and Barbara Crook, who operate the Palestinian Media Watch (PMW), translated Dahlan's televised interview into English.

In the interview, Dahlan commented, "The PLO (Palestine Liberation Organization) in 1993 recognized Israel. As Israel recognized the PLO, Every person has the right to say 'I do not recognize,' okay? It's your right. It is the right of every organization."

Abbas has stated several times that the PA reserves the right to violence if Israel does not meet its demands for a new Arab country, which it wants to establish on the land of Judea, Samaria, Gaza and eastern Jerusalem.

The PA also has violated Roadmap conditions and previous agreements prohibiting incitement and violence against Israel. Fatah's military wing, the Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigade terrorist organization, has carried out a number of attacks against Israeli civilians since Abbas was elected to succeed Yasser Arafat after his death in 2004.

Fatah initially took responsibility this week for the murder of two Israeli policemen in the Jordan Valley, but the announcement was quickly followed by a claim of responsibility by a group with a different name.

Last week, PA TV celebrated the 31st anniversary of the March 11, 1978 attack on an Israeli bus, killing 37 civilians. The hour-long program "included file film of PLO training camps, and interviews with a number of terrorists describing the planning and implementation of the attack." Marcus and Cook wrote.

The narrator opened the program by stating that the attack was "one of the most important and most prominent special actions executed by the Palestinian revolution by sea, on the coast between Haifa and Tel Aviv. This action, which was carried out by a group of heroes and led by the heroic fighter Dalal Mughrabi, had a great impact on continuing events of the Arab-Israeli conflict." 

A new "peace poll" by the Truman Institute at Tel Aviv University and the Palestinian Center for Policy and Survey Research revealed that  54 percent of PA Arabs support terror attacks inside Israel, compared with only 42 percent who oppose such attacks.  

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It seems to me one has to view this price increase in the context of total WATER CAPITULATION ( what's new?) by the government of Israel. Killing agriculture, hurting, dessicating people: JUDEA CAPTA 2009; the SIEGE of Israel by ESAV / AMALEK!

1.First this:

From Barry Chamish:

"In 1994, I interviewed the Israeli negotiator of the Jordan-Israel Water Treaty. He tearfully explained that Israel is going to offer so much of its water for "peace" that the country would desiccate itself with twenty years. Turning back in bitter frustration, the whole story is included in THE conPROMISED LAND."


Also discussed in the radio interview, link below:

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Radio/News.aspx/762


2.Then this:

.www.ynetnews.com

Should Israel keep giving water to neighbors?

Despite drought and impending water crisis, Jewish state continues to uphold agreements according to which it must provide 85 million cubic meters of water to Jordan, West Bank, Gaza, and has even supplied more than required...Israel is required to provide the Palestinians with 28.6 million cubic meters of water per year, with 5 million of them going to the Gaza Strip. In practice however, Israel has given the Palestinians, through direct supply and drilling permits in new wells, over 65 million cubic meters of water – over double the required amount. Israel is required to supply its neighbors with a total of 85 million cubic meters of water per year, but in reality actually transfers some 120 million cubic meters each year. According to the Israel Water Authority, the State will be 80 million cubic meters short of water, even after a number of water-saving steps are taken.

( NB, DS: this doesn't even take into account all the ILLEGAL WELLS being drilled, as well as the WATER BEING DIRECTLY STOLEN FROM US BY ARAB THIEVES HOOKING UP TO OUR SYSTEMS!)



3.Now this:

Treated Water Price Increase to Affect Farming

Adar 22, 5769, 18 March 09 04:51

(IsraelNN.com) Israel's Water Authority steeply raised its tariffs in treated wastewater, used in farming, by 33 percent. The price increase will cause a sharp blow, particularly to growers of crops in orchards and fields, who utilize 62 million cubic meters annually of treated water for irrigation.

The coordinator of water issues for the United Israel Farmers' organization, Yoram Tamari, stated that the heads of the Water Authority are harming the farmers who responded to the national task of using treated water instead of freshwater. He stated that the price increase is particularly harmful during the harsh financial crisis that the farmers are currently facing.

Tamari furthermore stated that the Water Authority's quick implementation of the price increase has not been properly examined from a financial perspective. Tamar stated that the increase in tariffs will reduce the incentive to use treated wastewater, and will cause damage in the long term to the national water industry.:

 

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4. And just as a reminder: see the attached picture:

This was the view in a small "palestinian" village in February, in the middle of the "worst drought in Israel since the beginning of the state" (can also be found on the blog under the caption: Bet Umar thirsty).

There is an article in the JP dealing with the papal visit , written by Matthew Wagner. Talkbacks are supposed to reflect public opinion ;I wrote a comment OPPOSED to the papal visit, and it was rejected. How many more like mine were too? Below

So if you read the talkbacks, you get the impression that the public is overwhelmingly in favor of the pope wearing his cross at the Kotel, and his visit is not being questioned altogether: if anything, we should be feeling grateful for his deigning to grace us with his ( repulsive, DS) presence.

This is a case of crass manipulation of public opinion by the media, specifically by whoever censures the incoming messages. So this is what I wrote to the Jerusalem Post itself , to complain.


http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1237114844980&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull


I would like to lodge a complaint against the person who is selecting which talkbacks to publish regarding the controversy about the pope and his cross at the Kotel..

I published a comment OPPOSED to the pope's visit altogether, and it was not published. Most of the comments - over 400 altogether! - are very critical of the rabbi at the Wall, and of Jews and Judaism; so it makes it look as though the majority of Jews SUPPORT the pope appearing here with his idolatrous paraphernalia. If the rejection of my comment is any indication, the MAJORITY OF JEWS WHO OPPOSE this CHILLUL HASHEM HAVE BEEN , AND WILL BE SILENCED. I consider this biased support of the Jerusalem Post for desecration of Jerusalem, and unacceptable POLITICAL INTERFERENCE into this HIGHLY CONTROVERSIAL topic

Thank you

DS, MD

This seems to me an ESCALATION OF EVIL in the "justice" court system.

Court Refuses MK Eldad's Case

Adar 22, 5769, 18 March 09 02:29

(IsraelNN.com) The Magistrates Court in Jerusalem ruled against National Union MK Aryet Eldad on Tuesday in a case he brought against the police for disproportional use of force. During the evacuation of several houses in the Samaria community of Amona, Eldad was forcibly removed by the police.

Eldad sustained a severe hand injury that left him with a 10 percent disability in his hand. He also sued the police because he can no longer perform his profession of plastic surgery with the hand. The judges ruled that the use of force was justified.

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ESSENTIAL! YOU HAVE TO LISTEN TO THIS INTERVIEW! ESSENTIAL! It covers the issues I discussed for so long: WATER; THE VATICAN; + THE RUSSIAN COMPOUND . ESSENTIAL!

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Radio/News.aspx/762

RELEASING MURDERERS TO MURDER AGAIN?

I  AGREE WITH YOU, E.WINSTON!  DS

RELEASING MURDERERS TO MURDER AGAIN?

by Emanuel A. Winston, Mid East analyst & commentator

Israel's washed-up and quitting Prime Minister Ehud Olmert, Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni, Defense Minister Ehud Barak are ready to vote on releasing hundreds of caught, tried, convicted and jailed Palestinian Muslim Arab Terrorists. Then they can murder again. Olmert has previously released Terrorists who have returned to their practiced lives of Terror.

While the release of Corporal Gilad Shalit is vital to the sensibilities of the nation, can turning these animals loose on the Israeli public serve as a solution?

Should Olmert and his poisonous contingent unleash these killers on the Jewish population then he and his group are conspirators to commit murder. While they, those who release killers, know from experience that the rate of recidivism (return to the crime for which they were imprisoned) is very high.

So, when they knowingly release killers, they become direct collaborators in the murder of Jews. Since those who release killers choose to be accessories to murder, they should be tried and (if found guilty) they should be hanged. Perhaps you think execution is excessive? Well, let's check that out/

Let's say your two sons are hiking around the hills near Hebron. Some Palestinian Muslim Arabs (former prisoners for committing Terrorist acts that killed Jews and maybe even other Muslims) see the boys and bash their heads in, leaving them to rot in a cave. Some things really do happen. The boys were 13.

Let's say your family is having dinner and a Katyusha Rocket comes through your reinforced cement ceiling. Only mother makes it through alive. She was in the kitchen when the warhead exploded. Dead are her husband, her son of 12, and her daughter, age 3. The shooter was one of the Arab Muslims trained by one of the released Terrorists. Some things really do happen.

I live on a small kibbutz. One night three Arab Muslims came through the perimeter fence. One knocked at our door and when I opened it, the Arab Muslim (former Terrorist prisoner) burst through and fired his Kalashnikov. He killed me but my wife hid in the closet with Sarah, our daughter. I am dead and wonder why Mr. Olmert, did you let them out to kill me? Yes, indeed. Some things really do happen.

Dear reader, I haven't reached the torture, the be-heading, the chaining to the radiator in a dank basement. Would you like to know what some Israelis have had to go through at the hands of released Terrorists? But, this is the work of Olmert and his Kadimites.

So, on second thought, why bother with a trial, given that Israeli Judges have sacrificed their honor and ethics long ago? Perhaps, summary execution is best for all concerned - if you agree with poetic license.

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Typical of these Esav types: their "love" is not worth the paper it is written on. SAME WITH THE VATICAN: their love only lasts as long as we fulfill every one of their demands. So much for "CHRISTIAN UNCONDITIONAL LOVE": it's all BULLSHIT AND LIES!

EU Threatens Netanyahu Over PA State

Adar 20, 5769, 16 March 09 10:41

by Hana Levi Julian

(IsraelNN.com) The European Union (EU) issued an oblique threat on Sunday to the incoming government of Prime Minister-designate Binyamin Netanyahu over the issue of a new Palestinian Authority (PA) state.

EU foreign policy chief Javier Solana told reporters that the European body of nations would change its relationship significantly with the Jewish State if the Netanyahu government does not back the establishment of a new Arab state within Israel's current borders.

PA and Egyptian officials met with Solana and other EU representatives in an attempt to find ways to form a unity government between the Fatah faction and the Hamas terrorist organization.

Numerous attempts by Egyptian and Saudi Arabian leaders to achieve that goal have failed thus far, leaving the PA government split between Hamas ruling Gaza, and Fatah ruling parts of Judea and Samaria.

"Let me say very clearly that the way the European Union will relate to a government that is not committed to a two-state solution will be very, very different," Solana said.

Late Sunday night, Netanyahu's Likud party signed a coalition agreement with the Yisrael Beiteinu (Israel is Our Home) party, led by Avigdor Lieberman, who is set to become Foreign Minister.

Although Lieberman is seen by some as a right-wing conservative, he has expressed support for the idea of Israel giving up blocs of land and swapping Jewish and Arab populations in areas of Judea and Samaria. The Yisrael Beiteinu chairman has backed the plan as the best option to maximize Jewish demographics in Israel while providing the Palestinian Authority with land for a new state.

International media has in some respects demonized Lieberman and the prospect of his installation as Israel's next Foreign Minister.

According to the Associated Press, "Lieberman has said Palestinian prisoners should be drowned in the Dead Sea, that Israeli-Arab lawmakers meeting with Palestinian militants should be executed and that the president of Egypt could 'go to hell.'"

The news agency also reported that Lieberman's party, which is now the third-largest party in the Knesset, calls for legislation to "require members of Israel's Arab minority to swear loyalty to the Jewish state or lose their citizenship."

In fact, the party's platform calls for the establishment of a pledge of allegiance to be administered to every citizen and prospective citizen in the country, regardless of ethnicity or religious background.

Meanwhile, the EU has yet to keep the promise it made at an Egyptian-hosted summit in Sharm el-Sheikh in January to help prevent arms smuggling into Gaza.

Israel ended its counterterrorist Operation Cast Lead on January 18, partly on the strength of commitments by Western nations to prevent Hamas terrorists from replenishing their weapons supplies. Nevertheless, Hamas has succeeded in smuggling in new weapons, according to the latest intelligence reports by the Israel Security Agency (Shin Bet).

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PORTEND OF THINGS TO COME... IF WE LET THEM. WE ABSOLUTELY CANNOT LET THEM GET AWAY WITH THIS. ON OUR DEAD BODIES!!!

Papal Visit May Stop Jews from Praying at Western Wall

Adar 20, 5769, 16 March 09 08:36

by Tzvi Ben Gedalyahu

(IsraelNN.com) The planned visit by Pope Benedict XVI to the Western Wall (Kotel) may force a ban on Jews from praying  there for the first time since the holy site was restored to Israel after 2,000 years. Pope Benedict has said his visit to Israel in mid-May is devoted to "unity' and "peace."

Security officials have been discussing the issue with Western Wall Rabbi Shmuel Rabinowitz, who said he is vehemently opposed to the idea. Government authorities responsible for the safety of the Pope want to clear the area from the evening before his visit until he leaves.

"The Kotel must be open during the entire visit for every person who wants to pray," Rabbi Rabinowitz said. "Jews have been praying at the Kotel for almost 42 years. There is no preference of one person over another."

Jews were banned from visiting the Western Wall during the Jordanian occupation of eastern Jerusalem. Jordan also closed off all of the Christian churches, and Israel re-opened all religious sites to all faiths after recovering all of Jerusalem in the Six-Day War in 1967.

Pope John Paul II visited the Western Wall in March 2000 and followed the tradition of placing a prayer between the cracks of the Wall. It stated, "God of our fathers, you chose Abraham and his descendants to bring your Name to the Nations. We are deeply saddened by the behavior of those who in the course of history have caused these children of yours to suffer. And asking Your forgiveness, we wish to commit ourselves to genuine brotherhood with the people of the Covenant."

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When are we finally going to be free of these traitors in charge??! Did they forget the story of Gush Emunim, and how all 35 men were killed because of the old Arab who told on them?

Israel Returns 300 Guns Seized in "Defensive Shield"

Adar 19, 5769, 15 March 09 05:55

(IsraelNN.com) Israel returned 300 weapons seized in 2002's Operation Defensive Shield to the Palestinian Authority, according to Hussein al-Sheikh, Minister of Civilian Matters in the Palestinian Authority and former commander of the Fatah Tanzim terrorist group. Al-Sheikh made the statement during a tour near the Beit Iba roadblock,north of Shechem, which was removed by the Israel Defense Forces on Sunday.

Civilian Administration head, Brigadier-General Yoav Mordechai, who also took part in the tour, said the administration is considering loosening security at the Huwara checkpoint south of Shechem. Under the changes, Arabs above a certain age will not undergo security checks.

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IDF copy?--Wondering where the troops will stand when the time comes? And a connected video re: the New World Order

sent by bill, who commented:

 IDF copy?--Wondering where the troops will stand when the time comes?

Thanks, DS

 

OATH KEEPERS: ORDERS WE WILL NOT OBEY

1. We will NOT obey orders to disarm the American people.

2. We will NOT obey orders to conduct warrantless searches of the American people

3. We will NOT obey orders to detain American citizens as "unlawful enemy combatants" or to subject them to military tribunal.

4. We will NOT obey orders to impose martial law or a "state of emergency" on a state.

5. We will NOT obey orders to invade and subjugate any state that asserts its sovereignty.

6. We will NOT obey any order to blockade American cities, thus turning them into giant concentration camps.

7. We will NOT obey any order to force American citizens into any form of detention camps under any pretext.

8. We will NOT obey orders to assist or support the use of any foreign troops on U.S. soil against the American people to "keep the peace"